Let the meltdown begin

#28
#28
Jaytrain5 said:
This is, without question, the worst signing day of the Fulmer era at Tennessee.

Who knows how we'll look back on this class 4 years from now...but, for today, it's a very disappointing class.
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there is a dark cloud over knoxville today, and for the fans who didn't see this coming they should have. the fulmerites are to blame that is the truth. the old man can no longer bring in the talent needed to win.
 
#30
#30
champyvol said:
there is a dark cloud over knoxville today, and for the fans who didn't see this coming they should have. the fulmerites are to blame that is the truth. the old man can no longer bring in the talent needed to win.
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Yep. Forget last year's class. The man can no longer recruit.

I mean, did you see how awful those freshmen performed last year? Man, there is a reason Tennessee didn't play in the SECCG last year.

Oh wait......
 
#31
#31
champyvol said:
there is a dark cloud over knoxville today, and for the fans who didn't see this coming they should have. the fulmerites are to blame that is the truth. the old man can no longer bring in the talent needed to win.
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You can see the dark clouds? When did your mom put windows in the basement?
 
#32
#32
I hope most of you are under the age of 18 because I'd be ashamed to be a grown man crying about not recruiting enough rival.com ranking stars. It'll work out fine.

We've had big classes in the past produce plenty of busts. Maybe we recruited some character this time that doesn't show up in ranking stars but will produce in the W-L stat which is what really counts.
 
#33
#33
justingroves said:
Yep. Forget last year's class. The man can no longer recruit.

I mean, did you see how awful those freshmen performed last year? Man, there is a reason Tennessee didn't play in the SECCG last year.

Oh wait......
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the people who recruited last years class are gone champ. when people are running up the middle on us next year because we have no DT's your words will give me great comfort. funny how lsu, georgia, florida, alabama, never seem to have off years recruiting.
 
#34
#34
champyvol said:
the people who recruited last years class are gone champ. when people are running up the middle on us next year because we have no DT's your words will give me great comfort. funny how lsu, georgia, florida, alabama, never seem to have off years recruiting.
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There's about 6 DT's on the roster.

If you really expected a true freshman DT to come in and make a difference you know next to nothing about football.
 
#35
#35
utvolpj said:
You can see the dark clouds? When did your mom put windows in the basement?
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typical response, from a guy who still refuses to admit he is wrong. where is our great recruiting class, you really tell it like its not. i even wonder if you watch or played football. you said top 25, where is it at.l
 
#37
#37
Dt's who come in from HS and contribute are few and far between. I agree we are ok right now, just don't want to look around in a couple of years and have no depth. We picked up a couple of DT's that should be coachable, just have to beef them up first. No real need to panic yet. Check back in year or two!!!!!
 
#38
#38
champyvol said:
there is a dark cloud over knoxville today, and for the fans who didn't see this coming they should have. the fulmerites are to blame that is the truth. the old man can no longer bring in the talent needed to win.
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Take the knife out of your hand. Get off the ledge.

ITS 1 YEAR! Give these players a chance. UT has had top 5 classes in the past. How many (%) of them really panned out? How many never got into school? How many transfered? How many got kicked off the team?

The # of stars a high school kid gets means nothing. Lets see what these players do. Jay Cutler wasn't a 4-5 star recruit. Earl Bennett was not either. UT would have LOVED to have both. UT's last bigtime RB recruits...Gerald Riggs and Jabari Davis did not exactly set the NCAA on fire. Before we bash the signees and coaches, lets see where UT is in 3 years.:popcorn:
 
#39
#39
champyvol said:
look who recruited most of last years class idiot. do some homework.:the_finger:
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Ohh Tennessee has only recruited well when the great Chest Bump was here, excuse me.

Nevermind the fact that Tennessee had an atrocious class in 2006. I guess Chest Bump gets a pass huh?
 
#40
#40
How many SEC opponents beat us out on guys we wanted? How many guys did we score over SEC opponents who wanted them? It appears that the only school we beat out consistently was South Carolina ... which is good...but I think we only took 1 or 2 players that had an interest in Florida, for example. We are getting schooled. You don't even have to look at the stars. If we are only getting guys that none to few of our SEC opponents are interested in - I think we know whether we are winning or losing the recruiting battle.
 
#41
#41
TennTradition said:
How many SEC opponents beat us out on guys we wanted? How many guys did we score over SEC opponents who wanted them? It appears that the only school we beat out consistently was South Carolina ... which is good...but I think we only took 1 or 2 players that had an interest in Florida, for example. We are getting schooled. You don't even have to look at the stars. If we are only getting guys that none to few of our SEC opponents are interested in - I think we know whether we are winning or losing the recruiting battle.
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Well said and I buy that. But....are ALL those players at Alabama, FLA, GA going to pan out? Of course not. One of Fla's "best" 5* recruits is playing at Tenn State now, and not starting!
 
#42
#42
champyvol said:
typical response, from a guy who still refuses to admit he is wrong. where is our great recruiting class, you really tell it like its not. i even wonder if you watch or played football. you said top 25, where is it at.l
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I don't remember ever saying top-25 for this class. The fact is that I will still root for and follow the Vols no matter what. I will not cut off my donations or quit going to games because of who happens to be the HC. Whether I played football (I did) or watch football (I do) is not really relevant but that's expected.
 
#43
#43
rexvol said:
how did we finish behind SoCar, Ole Miss, Ark, and just ahead of Miss State? Are you freakin' kidding me? How was this year so horrible? Cant wait to see Phil's spin.
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I have been quiet for a while, but c'mon folks, get a life... Why are you even slightly surprised or disappointed? The cause and effect are pretty clear. One possible but very clear reason is right there in your mirror every morning. Some of the unceasing and pestulent bashing of the team displayed by several on this forum would likely run off any kid.

Think about it when you read some of the contributors to this great forum. If you were a young, impressionable and highly ranked prospect considering which would be the best school and you read the vitriolic buffoonery and negative diatribes that have continually been posted by some on this forum, would you even consider Tennessee??????? If the naysayers on this site joined a Catholic Forum they would likely turn the Pope away from Catholicism and probably even Christianity for that matter.

I can't imagine a young hot shot athlete with skin thick enough to make him willing to put up with the negativism some of you folks take great and joyous pride in commiting to the printed page. Any kid who comes to Knoxville to play football had better be ready to read monthly, weekly and daily criticisms of the program for the rest of their entire college career irrespective of their personal performances or the winning and losing records the Vols put on the board.

Look in the mirror naysayers when you shave in the morning, the culprit and worst enemy the Vols have will be looking back at you.
 
#44
#44
peaygolf89 said:
Well said and I buy that. But....are ALL those players at Alabama, FLA, GA going to pan out? Of course not. One of Fla's "best" 5* recruits is playing at Tenn State now, and not starting!
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Sure..every team is going to have guys that are busts or flame out. But, I would rather start with a talent pool that everyone in the SEC wanted and pare that down that start out with the SEC-leftovers and lose a few of those.

For the record, I'm sure we will have other good years - maybe even as good as last year. But, we have serious consistency issues in recruiting when compared to our rivals. Also, do we really think that we ever would have gotten a player like Eric Berry had there not been the family legacy? I doubt it.
 
#45
#45
KYVolFan said:
I have been quiet for a while, but c'mon folks, get a life... Why are you even slightly surprised or disappointed? The cause and effect are pretty clear. One possible but very clear reason is right there in your mirror every morning. Some of the unceasing and pestulent bashing of the team displayed by several on this forum would likely run off any kid.

Think about it when you read some of the contributors to this great forum. If you were a young, impressionable and highly ranked prospect considering which would be the best school and you read the vitriolic buffoonery and negative diatribes that have continually been posted by some on this forum, would you even consider Tennessee??????? If the naysayers on this site joined a Catholic Forum they would likely turn the Pope away from Catholicism and probably even Christianity for that matter.

I can't imagine a young hot shot athlete with skin thick enough to make him willing to put up with the negativism some of you folks take great and joyous pride in commiting to the printed page. Any kid who comes to Knoxville to play football had better be ready to read monthly, weekly and daily criticisms of the program for the rest of their entire college career irrespective of their personal performances or the winning and losing records the Vols put on the board.

Look in the mirror naysayers when you shave in the morning, the culprit and worst enemy the Vols have will be looking back at you.
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I have news for you. That happens everywhere in the SEC with the possible exception of Vandy.
 
#46
#46
I love how some of you have to resort to isolated specific incidents to justify that this class isn't sh@t from a pure recruiting standpoint. Of course there are some 5*'s over the past 20 years that haven't panned out. Or 2 and 3*'s becoming great college and pro players. But as a whole, not one of you could say you would rather have 3 star players over 5 star players at this point in time. Of course no one knows what the future holds and there are always exceptions to the rule. But this is probably our worst recruiting class ever at a time when the SEC is ruling recruiting. I mean we made it to the SEC championship game and get schooled by 3/4 of the sec, clemson, and freakin north carolina (i know about butch davis so don't even try) and you people are still trying to justify it. Admit it, we sucked this year! And we all know that Fulmer is horrid for the most part at developing talent, so we need top prospects more than most in order to survive. If we don't watch out then soon enough we will be the ones that will have to get lucky and turn crappy players into decent SEC calibur players. We shouldn't even be in this situation in the first place. That's the point! We let it slide into mediocrity too much already. I don't think we are necessarily in trouble at this current moment, but screw accessing this again in 3 years. Then it will be too late!
 
#47
#47
KYVolFan said:
I have been quiet for a while, but c'mon folks, get a life... Why are you even slightly surprised or disappointed? The cause and effect are pretty clear. One possible but very clear reason is right there in your mirror every morning. Some of the unceasing and pestulent bashing of the team displayed by several on this forum would likely run off any kid.

Think about it when you read some of the contributors to this great forum. If you were a young, impressionable and highly ranked prospect considering which would be the best school and you read the vitriolic buffoonery and negative diatribes that have continually been posted by some on this forum, would you even consider Tennessee??????? If the naysayers on this site joined a Catholic Forum they would likely turn the Pope away from Catholicism and probably even Christianity for that matter.

I can't imagine a young hot shot athlete with skin thick enough to make him willing to put up with the negativism some of you folks take great and joyous pride in commiting to the printed page. Any kid who comes to Knoxville to play football had better be ready to read monthly, weekly and daily criticisms of the program for the rest of their entire college career irrespective of their personal performances or the winning and losing records the Vols put on the board.

Look in the mirror naysayers when you shave in the morning, the culprit and worst enemy the Vols have will be looking back at you.
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When Dr. Phil comes back on........turn the damn channel!
 
#48
#48
I still believe the consistency issues can be boiled down to two things.

1.) Out-of State recruiting. It's huge boom or huge bust. When Florida or Georgia or LSU lose out on a guy three states over, they can turn around and offer the instate kid that is just as if not more talented then the kid they whiffed on. Tennessee normally doesn't have that luxury when it comes to in-state talent.

If they hit with a few big named out of state guys then fill in with lesser talented local kids, all is well. But when nearly every big target says no, Tennessee is screwed. Now, does not having a feasible backup plan go on the coach's shoulders? Of course, but a lot of the times kids are not going to wait around to see where others go. They want to sign and sign quickly to get the circus now known as recruiting over with.

2.) Coaches get complacent. I believe that some of these coaches get a little lazy after a big time class. Oh well, we signed a great class last year. This year can be mediocre. I honest to God think that is some of the mindset up here.
 
#49
#49
This class really sucked, but I don't think next year's class will be this bad. We should have a good season next year, and that will go a long way in getting recruits. Not to mention there shouldn't be any coaching questions after next season (unless we really really really F it up).
 
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