Lets Discuss the Press

#26
#26
(Orangewhiteblood @ Jul 12 said:
First of all, I'm not talking about the Government protecting them from Hurricanes, I'm talking about their response to the aftermath. Nice try though.

Second of all, if you don't want the people to depend on the Government, then we shouldn't have programs such as FEMA or the Red Cross to help out with such things. We don't really need Tylenol to make our headaches go away, but it's there and we take it.

I will agree that there are too many people who abuse the systems we have in place, but should that mean they're not worth rescuing or helping out when something like Hurricane Katrina hits? They're human beings afterall. Maybe you would rather them suffer and die, I don't know.
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I do not believe that FEMA should be part of our government programs. I believe that disaster assistance should come from charities and insurance (that has been purchased by those people who need the assistance.)

IF INSURANCE AGENCIES DO NOT OFFER INSURANCE WHERE YOU LIVE, BECAUSE THE RISK IS TOO GREAT, THEN YOU SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE.
 
#27
#27
(therealUT @ Jul 12 said:
In his defense, it could have been Rather...
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true. it just blows my mind how many people don't understand the smoke being blown up there a$$ when they get their news from the TV or newspaper media.
 
#28
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(allvol123 @ Jul 12 said:
true. it just blows my mind how many people don't understand the smoke being blown up there a$$ when they get their news from the TV or newspaper media.
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Same people who protest on the street against the Patriot Act without ever having actually read the document itself. If I was going to waste 5 hours of my Saturday morning, I would make sure I knew exactly why.
 
#29
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(therealUT @ Jul 12 said:
I do not believe that FEMA should be part of our government programs. I believe that disaster assistance should come from charities and insurance (that has been purchased by those people who need the assistance.)

IF INSURANCE AGENCIES DO NOT OFFER INSURANCE WHERE YOU LIVE, BECAUSE THE RISK IS TOO GREAT, THEN YOU SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE.
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I sort of agree. I don't think insurance should cover anyone who insists building houses right on the coast in hurricane prone regions though.
 
#30
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(allvol123 @ Jul 12 said:
true. it just blows my mind how many people don't understand the smoke being blown up there a$$ when they get their news from the TV or newspaper media.
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Just curious as to where you get your news?
 
#31
#31
(allvol123 @ Jul 12 said:
using Tom Brokaw saying that the press is not biased to the left is like having Castro tell you there are no dictators in the world.
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:D

I use the quote for 2 reasons:

1. I think it very close to the definition of liberal bias that I've been using - an overemphasis on one point of view (weak vs. powerful) as opposed to something related to political parties or an intentional action.

2. The statement points out the problem with the media evaluating itself. On one hand, Brokaw is denying there is a liberal bias on the other he is clearly stating that there is a liberal bias. He just doesn't recognize it! If the viewpoint matches your own, it doesn't appear to be slanted. I firmly believe he thinks there is no liberal bias eventhough his words directly contradict that view.
 
#33
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(Orangewhiteblood @ Jul 12 said:
I sort of agree. I don't think insurance should cover anyone who insists building houses right on the coast in hurricane prone regions though.
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I agree. I think it is awful that government agencies have forced insurance companies to offer insurance in certain areas...sounds a little more than socialist to me.
 
#34
#34
Doesn't some of that insurance money they get come from the taxpayers? Or did I just dream that up one night?
 
#35
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(Orangewhiteblood @ Jul 12 said:
Doesn't some of that insurance money they get come from the taxpayers? Or did I just dream that up one night?
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Just one of your wealth redistribution dreams... :biggrin2:
 
#36
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(therealUT @ Jul 12 said:
I agree. I think it is awful that government agencies have forced insurance companies to offer insurance in certain areas...sounds a little more than socialist to me.
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the day before the hurricane hit and i saw those sheep, i mean people herding themselves into the superdome. Socialism is exactly what I thought. These people have lost the ability to make a decision for themselves.
 
#37
#37
(Orangewhiteblood @ Jul 12 said:
Just curious as to where you get your news?
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I don't think it is so much of where you get it, but more of a question of how many places you check it off of. So many people turn on the TV, get fed whatever it is their favorite station is selling, and buy into it, hook, line, and sinker.

In the age of the internet, it is so easy to check multiple sources, including primary source documents, concerning what is going on in the world. Yet, so many people never bother to read books anymore, read White House press statements, read testimony given on the floors of congress, or legislation that passes.

However, these same people will rush to the polls to vote on one single issue, in which they basically no nothing more than what they have been told.
 
#39
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(therealUT @ Jul 12 said:
However, these same people will rush to the polls to vote on one single issue, in which they basically no nothing more than what they have been told.
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Like gay marriage and terrorism?
 
#40
#40
(Orangewhiteblood @ Jul 12 said:
Just curious as to where you get your news?
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well, I do watch TV, but unlike the sheep in this country, I know how to interpret the events without caring what the commentators say.

I get my real news from certain internet sites and radio shows.
 
#42
#42
Back to the role of the press...
I think that we [as journalists] have a job to go after the powerful and make sure that they are accountable for what they've done.

Brian Ross, Chief Investigative Reporter ABCNews
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I think journalists have the same allegation to make sure that those not in power are also accountable for their actions.
 
#43
#43
(therealUT @ Jul 26 said:
Back to the role of the press...
I think journalists have the same allegation to make sure that those not in power are also accountable for their actions.
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Precisely.
 
#45
#45
Then hold them accountable. Sitting on the side whining about the evil press and how they're selling us out, etc. etc. does little. I find it quite humorous how people like to punch the media every time they do something. It's convenient to pin the media as some liberal terrorist-friendly group to focus frustrations on. Let's all jump on the bandwagon to trash the media and say how illegal their actions are but then do absolutely nothing about it. If they are truly doing something evil, take them to court. Bush has stacked the courts enough now to get what he wants. Surely all of these leaks could have been pursued in court. OR would he rather have the media out there doing this so he can conveniently use them as the punching bag and scapegoat of the Right?
 
#46
#46
It's always been my philosophy that if you don't want stupid things printed about you in the news, don't do stupid things.
 
#47
#47
(Orangewhiteblood @ Jul 27 said:
It's always been my philosophy that if you don't want stupid things printed about you in the news, don't do stupid things.
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The stupid just can't help it....
 
#48
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(Orangewhiteblood @ Jul 27 said:
It's always been my philosophy that if you don't want stupid things printed about you in the news, don't do stupid things.
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A better philosophy would be, if you don't want stupid things printed about you in the news, don't become powerful. Most people can do all the stupid things their hearts desire and no one will ever read about it.
 
#49
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(CSpindizzy @ Jul 27 said:
Then hold them accountable. Sitting on the side whining about the evil press and how they're selling us out, etc. etc. does little. I find it quite humorous how people like to punch the media every time they do something. It's convenient to pin the media as some liberal terrorist-friendly group to focus frustrations on. Let's all jump on the bandwagon to trash the media and say how illegal their actions are but then do absolutely nothing about it. If they are truly doing something evil, take them to court. Bush has stacked the courts enough now to get what he wants. Surely all of these leaks could have been pursued in court. OR would he rather have the media out there doing this so he can conveniently use them as the punching bag and scapegoat of the Right?
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It's not whining, trashing, evil or illegal. It's simply stating that the media tends to emphasize certain points of view and not others.

Are you're suggesting that the Bush admin wants the leaks (encourages?) so then they can blame the media? :blink:
 
#50
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(Orangewhiteblood @ Jul 27 said:
It's always been my philosophy that if you don't want stupid things printed about you in the news, don't do stupid things.
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When all of the media outlets but one are clearly liberal, there is a pretty good chance that they will twist it to make you sound stupid.
 
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