Lets not send Jake to the chopping block just yet

[Other_Guy]

Besides the 2nd pick play call there's no reason to say Jakes days are number. He has had some good games. Last year his hands were tied with no QB. Now he has no Oline. If you can't run the ball and Worley is getting sacked left and right what exactly do you do? When we have BOTH good QB and OL play then we can decide if he isnt a good OC. They tried a few things WR sweep and bubble screens that didn't work but nothing worked very well.

The only coach who needs fired is the ST coach. Young should be kicked in the butt every timf he runs thr ball out and qhy would you call off the dogs after 2 near punt blocks?

 

[GAVol]

For the life of me, with the rule change on touchbacks going to the 25, I don't get why any return man leaves the end zone ever.

 

[Biopsyman]

Besides the 2nd pick play call there's no reason to say Jakes days are number. He has had some good games. Last year his hands were tied with no QB. Now he has no Oline. If you can't run the ball and Worley is getting sacked left and right what exactly do you do? When we have BOTH good QB and OL play then we can decide if he isnt a good OC. They tried a few things WR sweep and bubble screens that didn't work but nothing worked very well.

The only coach who needs fired is the ST coach. Young should be kicked in the butt every timf he runs thr ball out and qhy would you call off the dogs after 2 near punt blocks?

Young just does not have talent for this level.. He would be great with flag football in the frat league..I have heard for YEARS about his abilities that never has been demonstrated.

 

[VOLS INC.]

Besides the 2nd pick play call there's no reason to say Jakes days are number. He has had some good games. Last year his hands were tied with no QB. Now he has no Oline. If you can't run the ball and Worley is getting sacked left and right what exactly do you do? When we have BOTH good QB and OL play then we can decide if he isnt a good OC. They tried a few things WR sweep and bubble screens that didn't work but nothing worked very well.

The only coach who needs fired is the ST coach. Young should be kicked in the butt every timf he runs thr ball out and qhy would you call off the dogs after 2 near punt blocks?

Couldnt agree more. When will we as Vols fans learn that firing coaches is not always the answer. Progress is what we need to be looking for. Lets give him some time. Butch is not going to accept being average...if he feels like he needs a new OC i have faith he will make a change.

 

[cgbtn]

I believe Elder deserves some of the blame for Young's lack of success on KO returns. I have not once seen a return lane. It almost seems like the players are being coached not to block so they won't hit some one in the back. There certainly is no setting up of a wall. I don't think Todd Gurley could return a kick with the other 10 guys we have out there.

 

[lovavol]

D Young will hopefully lose his job thru the bye...oline killed us...hope we fill the need in recruitin...Croo. hands are bad....pic in the corner all him...D works hard gonna be real good soon..QB took a beating...TE need to learn to block...we will get better...ou is good

 

[Spartacavolus]

I don't understand why we haven't been able to bounce a kickoff out to the left yet. We continually get in on our right hash and run straight down the hash everytime. Make a damn move, set up some crackbacks or something besides running straight everytime.

 

[Biopsyman]

For the life of me, with the rule change on touchbacks going to the 25, I don't get why any return man leaves the end zone ever.

Young is great at achieving his 20 yard career average so he start 5 yards short on most possessions:crazy:

 

[volfan411]

Besides the 2nd pick play call there's no reason to say Jakes days are number. He has had some good games. Last year his hands were tied with no QB. Now he has no Oline. If you can't run the ball and Worley is getting sacked left and right what exactly do you do? When we have BOTH good QB and OL play then we can decide if he isnt a good OC. They tried a few things WR sweep and bubble screens that didn't work but nothing worked very well.

The only coach who needs fired is the ST coach. Young should be kicked in the butt every timf he runs thr ball out and qhy would you call off the dogs after 2 near punt blocks?

I agree I did not like the call to pass on 3rd and 3 from inside the 5 but also feel like the OC was had uffed the entire game due to the OL. If anyone should be on the chopping block it should be the oline coach.

 

[ALLVOL 4LIFE]

Besides the 2nd pick play call there's no reason to say Jakes days are number. He has had some good games. Last year his hands were tied with no QB. Now he has no Oline. If you can't run the ball and Worley is getting sacked left and right what exactly do you do? When we have BOTH good QB and OL play then we can decide if he isnt a good OC. They tried a few things WR sweep and bubble screens that didn't work but nothing worked very well.

The only coach who needs fired is the ST coach. Young should be kicked in the butt every timf he runs thr ball out and qhy would you call off the dogs after 2 near punt blocks?

I'm not calling for his head, I just think he needs to do his JOB! It is his JOB to prepare this team offensively. I don't care that we are young and I don't care that the other teams D is this or that, we know all this going in (at least I do) and it is our OC's JOB to have a game plan or make proper adjustments accordingly to our talent vs their talent. He MUST put the players in situations to succeed. This game is not the first time we have had an offense that lacked creativity. The SOS just ain't gonna get it

Special teams...our punter is terrible and we should only return a kick that doesn't reach the endzone! Defensive ST looks good, ball security on punts and a punt block...I'll take that.

 

[ALLVOL24/7/365]

D Young will hopefully lose his job thru the bye...oline killed us...hope we fill the need in recruitin...Croo. hands are bad....pic in the corner all him...D works hard gonna be real good soon..QB took a beating...TE need to learn to block...we will get better...ou is good

+1

 

[Pooods]

I agree. Usually the great coaches are labeled that when being surrounded by super talent. It's hard to look like a superior coach when you are limited. He is limited this year and was last year. People say create plays for the talent he has and don't ask them to do things that are not their strong suite. This man is thinking much more about our offense than we are. He knows the players abilities more than we do. He even knows our competition more than we do. It's his job to do these things each day. Couch coaches and living room analyst looking back at what they would have done need to understand they could do no better and 95% of them would do much worse.

 

[ALLVOL24/7/365]

I agree I did not like the call to pass on 3rd and 3 from inside the 5 but also feel like the OC was had uffed the entire game due to the OL. If anyone should be on the chopping block it should be the oline coach.

We already put the guy on the chopping block that caused all these oline problems, DOOLEY, EVERYONE HERE IS BLAMING THE CURRENT COACHES FOR THE O LINE ISSUES. REMEMBER COACH DOONOTHING did not recruit any oline players. So these coaches do not have any, talk about the cupboard being bare, h€!! DOONOTHING SOLD THE CUPBOARD. So give these guys credit for being creative, bringing Roberson over from D line and piece milling a line together as best they can. R ember the blame lays at the feet of DUUFUS though.

 

[volfan411]

We already put the guy on the chopping block that caused all these oline problems, DOOLEY, EVERYONE HERE IS BLAMING THE CURRENT COACHES FOR THE O LINE ISSUES. REMEMBER COACH DOONOTHING did not recruit any oline players. So these coaches do not have any, talk about the cupboard being bare, h€!! DOONOTHING SOLD THE CUPBOARD. So give these guys credit for being creative, bringing Roberson over from D line and piece milling a line together as best they can. R ember the blame lays at the feet of DUUFUS though.

I should have been more clear but I said IF a coach should bo on the chopping block it should be the OL coach.

I do not think he should be on the hot seat at this point but if we do not show improvement by the seasons end BJ needs to look at why.

 

[iluvsmesumdooley]

I should have been more clear but I said IF a coach should bo on the chopping block it should be the OL coach.

I do not think he should be on the hot seat at this point but if we do not show improvement by the seasons end BJ needs to look at why.

No, no, no! Too much inexperience. Linemen rarely come right in and make immediate impacts after never starting, especially when they are surrounded by non returning starters. God couldn't make this O-line good this year. Doolander is the one to blame - he should be fined for this atrocity.

 

[iluvsmesumdooley]

I don't think Darr recovered from that injury he suffered. He started out hot. Devrin Young is not a FBS player. He should be at Tusculum.

 

[dsvol]

Let's improve our team by firing coaches, like we haven't learned from that in the past...Does anyone remember our past history with no continuity in the coaching staff and how that worked out for us? These players are young and inexperienced, playing a seasoned top 5 team in the country, what do you expect? Give the coaches time to build their team. I am really optimistic about our chances in the SEC after last night.

Go Vols!

 

[orangeluvr]

When the coverage is tight a pass becomes a 50/50 ball ,we missed two TDs 'cause our large receiver's were out dueled by smaller DBs. It's called making a difficult catch.
The run game is pitiful and unimagined , no deception or misdirection, there were opportunities for gash plays against a defense that blitzed and bull rushed up field the entire game. We managed only two gashes, there should have been a lot more.
Our guys kept their heads up and didn't quit against a more physically developed , more experienced and talented team. We will get better as our guys are gaining experience while going through frustrating growing pains
Snap and clear. :twocents:

 

[jcvet33]

If you count that horrible end around play for Pig Howard this offense only has 3 running plays. I watched a Pee Wee team run more plays out of the spread yesterday afternoon. What's all of this nonsense about Jones using tight ends? They can't even help the tackle with a double team. They stand there and watch the end run between them. If you don't attempt to block at least run a route.

 

[BeecherVol]

For the life of me, with the rule change on touchbacks going to the 25, I don't get why any return man leaves the end zone ever.

Id have a rule for my returners. If it got broke you dont return anymore.

 

[volfan411]

No, no, no! Too much inexperience. Linemen rarely come right in and make immediate impacts after never starting, especially when they are surrounded by non returning starters. God couldn't make this O-line good this year. Doolander is the one to blame - he should be fined for this atrocity.

So inexperience prohibits them from getting better.

If you read my post I said if they DO NOT IMPROVE BY SEASONS END Jones may need to look at the coaching. I do not care if you are a freshman or a senior if you do not improve from game one to the end of the year one of two things need to be looked at and that is either talent or coaching and since Jones recruited these players I have to assume they have the talent he is looking for.

 

[VOLinAL]

My problem with Bajakian is not adjusting to whats not working. Even during the first two games, this zone read run is not working this year. I dont think he should be fired yet and think if he has the right QB to make the right read then success rate goes up but we dont have it now and adjustments need to be made. Im tired of seeing a RB get the ball, stop to find a hole, and then get smothered by the o line. The. RB needs to be near full speed before he hits the hole. The success of this offense is limited my Worleys mobility and reads and severely limited by the o line.

 

[volfan411]

My problem with Bajakian is not adjusting to whats not working. Even during the first two games, this zone read run is not working this year. I dont think he should be fired yet and think if he has the right QB to make the right read then success rate goes up but we dont have it now and adjustments need to be made. Im tired of seeing a RB get the ball, stop to find a hole, and then get smothered by the o line. The. RB needs to be near full speed before he hits the hole. The success of this offense is limited my Worleys mobility and reads and severely limited by the o line.

Lane has done that since his freshman year. I would start giving Hurd the majority of the snaps as it looked like last night he was hitting the hole hard.

 

[VOLinAL]

Lane has done that since his freshman year. I would start giving Hurd the majority of the snaps as it looked like last night he was hitting the hole hard.

I have always liked Lane over Neal though and has better vision then Hurd at this point. I dont ever think Lane is going to bust one for 60 to the endzone but I like him for those 6-8 yard runs.

 

[volfan411]

I have always liked Lane over Neal though and has better vision then Hurd at this point. I dont ever think Lane is going to bust one for 60 to the endzone but I like him for those 6-8 yard runs.

I think Hurd grew up a lot last night. He picked up blitzes better than he has all year and as I said I thought he was hitting the hole hard.

His burst is just so much better than Lane's that I think we need him in the game. I noticed after his one big run the pass rush slowed due to the respect of his speed.