Lewis Black: Red, White & Screwed

[tidwell]

Actually, I've heard people say that Denis Leary pretty much stole Bill Hicks' act. I can't say one way or the other personally, since I've never heard of Bill Hicks.

 

[milohimself]

That sounded intelligent . . . I have no idea what it meant . . . but it sounded intelligent.

Well, all the "liberals and progressives" I see in the media are babbling idiots. But I think the whole platform has some genuinely good ideas. Lewis Black is one of the few guys I see around of a liberal viewpoint that actually makes some good points.

not you to milo.
so much big talk from such a young guy.
you need to get drunk and find a hooker.
oops can i say that??? :moon2:

I'm not liberal or conservative. I've got my own deal going on. I don't believe global warming will melt your skin off or that social security is a good thing. But I also don't believe that homosexuality is a threat to American values, or that all the illegal Mexicans ought to be caught and sent back to Mexico (if that's even possible) or that AIDS can be transfered through saliva, whichever Republican made that claim.

 

[hatvol96]

Actually, I've heard people say that Denis Leary pretty much stole Bill Hicks' act. I can't say one way or the other personally, since I've never heard of Bill Hicks.

Comparing Dennis Leary to Bill Hicks is like comparing Stanley Asumnu to Dwayne Wade.

 

[tidwell]

I didn't really know where the comparison was coming from obviously, since I've never watched or heard any of Hicks' stuff, but I figured it might have some basis.

 

[hatvol96]

I didn't really know where the comparison was coming from obviously, since I've never watched or heard any of Hicks' stuff, but I figured it might have some basis.

Leary's funny, but in the same way Collin Quinn is funny. Hicks had a much smarter act.

 

[MemphisVol]

Why is the assumption that Lewis Black is a Liberal taken for granted and not something you have to prove?


Our great leader just proposed a 24% cut in Education funding for the 2006 budget. If you have sense enough to say only a complete moron would propose such a thing, why does that make you a Liberal? Are we assuming that the definition of "Conservative" is somebody who just accepts anything their party says, and a "Liberal" is anybody who doesn't bend over and say 'c'mon in'? Does this board really think so little of Conservatives that our definition of one is somebody who mindlessly agrees with whatever the leader say no matter how idiotic the position of said leader might be?

Of course, maybe that's why our leader wants a 24% cut in education funding- if people are stupid enough to buy his crap now, just imagine what he could get away with if they were 24% less educated...?

Hell, cut our Education funding by 24%, and, likely, we'll not only end up with folks who think anybody who criticizes W is automatically a dirty "Liberal"- Pretty soon we'll be so backwards anybody who can read will be as good as a Commie, too. Right now, we're the 24th 'most' literate country in the world (Madagascar is ahead of us). Give W and the morons who support his position that opposing him is automatically anti-American their head, and before you 'know' it... well, you'll be too developmentally deprived to remember what we were talking about anyway.


Answer me this- Whose a bigger idiot, somebody who concentrates on whether Lewis Black is Liberal or not for criticizing the President, or somebody who doesn't care about labels like 'Liberal' or 'Conservative', and just cares whether the particular lies this particular President has told and is telling have wasted service peoples' lives?

God- don't you miss the days when Presidents just lied about blowjobs, and nobody but their wives got betrayed?

 

[OrangeSquare]

God- don't you miss the days when Presidents just lied about blowjobs, and nobody but their wives got betrayed?

No, I don't. A lie is a lie. If he lied about that, I'm sure he lied about more. Wrongs don't make rights.

 

[volinbham]

Of course, maybe that's why our leader wants a 24% cut in education funding- if people are stupid enough to buy his crap now, just imagine what he could get away with if they were 24% less educated...?

What is more likely is a proposed cut in the GROWTH of education spending. Net result, education spending still rises but just not by as much.

In fact, since taking office Bush has increased education funding by 33% in total.

 

[volinbham]

He does, but some of you Republicans take it way too seriously.

I can see how after listening to the democratic leadership, it would be hard to distinguish comedy from policy :w00t:

 

[CSpindizzy]

What is more likely is a proposed cut in the GROWTH of education spending. Net result, education spending still rises but just not by as much.

In fact, since taking office Bush has increased education funding by 33% in total.

I seem to recall he was one of the Republicans pushing for local control of education and a reduction in the size of the DoE. Then he pushes his No Child On The Right Bus federal unfunded mandates. And you just admitted that he's increased spending and size after telling us he wouldn't. Where are the "local control of education" and "states' rights" Republicans out there?

 

[volinbham]

And you just admitted that he's increased spending...

:lol: Admitted? :lol: I didn't realize I was "admitting" to anything. Just presenting a single fact.



I think further discussion of this topic would be better suited to a dedicated thread :twocents:

 

[MemphisVol]

I agree. A dedicated thread in which we discuss W's proposal that we cut our education budget by 24%.

Not a thread where W's enemies' trash him, or, worse, mindless supporters defend him no matter how spastic such a huge education cut would be. Instead, a thread dedicated to the thoughtful analysis of W's education policies.

Of course, since W promotes such vast cuts in education, you pretty much have to assume anybody who supports him is fine with educational retardation, and, therefore, isn't exactly the first one you'd look to for thoughtful answers about his policies.....

 

[MemphisVol]

For those of you who don't know why a 24% cut in Education fund is bad, don't strain yourself; Pretty unreasonable to expect people taught from the cradle to consider education a "social program" rather than a necessity to have the education to appreciate either the problem or the irony.

 

[MemphisVol]

Sorry if I suggested anybody who supports W is stupid. I didn't mean that at all.

After all, technically, W's proposed 24% cut in Education fund just means he PREFERS to make Americans stupid, not that he prefers stupid Americans and they prefer him.

 

[therealUT]

For those of you who don't know why a 24% cut in Education fund is bad, don't strain yourself; Pretty unreasonable to expect people taught from the cradle to consider education a "social program" rather than a necessity to have the education to appreciate either the problem or the irony.

I always thought education was supposed to be a local issue, not a federal issue. Also, during the Age of Enlightenment and the Renaissance, also the ancient Greek education system, education was not provided by the state. Education was privately funded, and those that held it as a priority made sure their children were educated.

 

[volinbham]

I agree. A dedicated thread in which we discuss W's proposal that we cut our education budget by 24%.

Not a thread where W's enemies' trash him, or, worse, mindless supporters defend him no matter how spastic such a huge education cut would be. Instead, a thread dedicated to the thoughtful analysis of W's education policies.

Of course, since W promotes such vast cuts in education, you pretty much have to assume anybody who supports him is fine with educational retardation, and, therefore, isn't exactly the first one you'd look to for thoughtful answers about his policies.....

Such an open and tolerant position!

I've been unable to find this cut you keep talking about but perhaps you are referring to his 2004 budget proposal.

If so, here's an analysis by Factcheck.org dem claims re: bush which debunks the claims of cuts.