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I follow High School football closely in North Alabama and Southern Middle Tennessee. Last week I spoke with several players from Huntsville and Murphreesboro. I was asking them about colleges they were hoping to get a chance at playng for and all of them, not two or three, but all of them (about 19 in all) said they would never play for CPF! The most common response was "I don't trust him". Now these were not blue chippers by any means but I was very suprised to hear pretty much the same response from all of them!

Is anyone else hearing anything like this from any big recruits?

Has CPF damaged his name that bad?

just curious.
 
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Originally posted by Mudyuppie@Nov 1, 2005 9:17 PM
I follow High School football closely in North Alabama and Southern Middle Tennessee. Last week I spoke with several players from Huntsville and Murphreesboro. I was asking them about colleges they were hoping to get a chance at playng for and all of them, not  two or three, but all of them (about 19 in all) said they would never play for CPF! The most common response was "I don't trust him". Now these were not blue chippers by any means but I was very suprised to hear pretty much the same response from all of them!

Is anyone else hearing anything like this from any big recruits?

Has CPF damaged his name that bad?

just curious.
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First of all, are you a Vol fan? You don't have to say but I'm curious all the same.

Second of all, there was plenty of talent that trusted him this past recruiting season, wouldn't you agree?

Third, if those guys don't want to really play ball for Tennessee, then we don't want them anyway. If that did in fact happen.
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 1, 2005 9:21 PM
First of all, are you a Vol fan?  You don't have to say but I'm curious all the same.

Second of all, there was plenty of talent that trusted him this past recruiting season, wouldn't you agree?

Third, if those guys don't want to really play ball for Tennessee, then we don't want them anyway.  If that did in fact happen.
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Murfreesboro!!
 
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There is one thing I don't worry about and that is Fulmer's ability to recruit.

I guarantee you that if Fulmer offered these guys then they would come here at the drop of a hat. As you said they are not blue chippers and are not on Fulmer's radar so they can pretty much say anything they want and know that the outcome will be the same.
 
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Tell the hs players you talked to good luck in division 2 because according to the major recruiting gurus there is little to no division 1 talent in either of those locations. Maybe that's the problem, UT isn't showing any interest in any of them.
 
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I've never heard of Murphreesboro anyway. Is it an imaginary place? I'm not too worried that imaginary players don't trust CPF.
 
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This post has no merit. If no one trusted PF then how the hell do we have a recruiting class? I guess Manning was duped along with the other 41 Vols in the NFL.
 
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Fulmer is probably the most trusted coach in the SEC by recruits.

Here I go feeding Trolls again.

Hey where's the Admins at. Aren't they suppose to guard against Trolls
 
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Originally posted by Mudyuppie@Nov 1, 2005 9:17 PM
I follow High School football closely in North Alabama and Southern Middle Tennessee. Last week I spoke with several players from Huntsville and Murphreesboro. I was asking them about colleges they were hoping to get a chance at playng for and all of them, not  two or three, but all of them (about 19 in all) said they would never play for CPF! The most common response was "I don't trust him". Now these were not blue chippers by any means but I was very suprised to hear pretty much the same response from all of them!

Is anyone else hearing anything like this from any big recruits?

Has CPF damaged his name that bad?

just curious.
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Who cares what a bunch of Troy, UAB, and Jacksonville State recruits think?
 
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Originally posted by Mudyuppie@Nov 1, 2005 9:17 PM
I follow High School football closely in North Alabama and Southern Middle Tennessee. Last week I spoke with several players from Huntsville and Murphreesboro. I was asking them about colleges they were hoping to get a chance at playng for and all of them, not  two or three, but all of them (about 19 in all) said they would never play for CPF! The most common response was "I don't trust him". Now these were not blue chippers by any means but I was very suprised to hear pretty much the same response from all of them!

Is anyone else hearing anything like this from any big recruits?

Has CPF damaged his name that bad?

just curious.
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You are right about players not trusting CPF, but we get SO MANY that we can afford that luxury of guys to go elsewhere, and we still get a top 10 recruiting class. We lost guys like Onterrio Smith and Montrell Jones and Cadillac Williams, yet we are always contending for the SEC title every year.
 
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Then again, players talk crap like they can be so selective and picky to which school they go to, but c'mon, how many players would ACTUALLY pass up the chance to play their home games at Neyland Stadium?? Also, think about the high number of players that UT puts into the NFL...

Ultimately 95% of college players want to have to best chance to go to the NFL, and they know UT has the type of program to get them there... If they're good. It's just like a diploma from Yale vs. Carson Newman. Do the math.
 
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Originally posted by Mudyuppie@Nov 1, 2005 9:17 PM
I follow High School football closely in North Alabama and Southern Middle Tennessee. Last week I spoke with several players from Huntsville and Murphreesboro. I was asking them about colleges they were hoping to get a chance at playng for and all of them, not  two or three, but all of them (about 19 in all) said they would never play for CPF! The most common response was "I don't trust him". Now these were not blue chippers by any means but I was very suprised to hear pretty much the same response from all of them!

Is anyone else hearing anything like this from any big recruits?

Has CPF damaged his name that bad?

just curious.
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Again, this is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read.

"What schools are you considering?" Um UAB, Ga.Southern, and Western KY"

What do you think about Phillip Fulmer? He is a crook. In other words, I couldn't play at UT if my life depended on it.
 
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Hey, gonygonygo.......

I don't think UT is in contention for the SEC title this year. Where have you been? Welcome to Earth!!

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
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Originally posted by Mudyuppie@Nov 1, 2005 9:17 PM
I follow High School football closely in North Alabama and Southern Middle Tennessee. Last week I spoke with several players from Huntsville and Murphreesboro. I was asking them about colleges they were hoping to get a chance at playng for and all of them, not  two or three, but all of them (about 19 in all) said they would never play for CPF! The most common response was "I don't trust him". Now these were not blue chippers by any means but I was very suprised to hear pretty much the same response from all of them!

Is anyone else hearing anything like this from any big recruits?

Has CPF damaged his name that bad?

just curious.
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Im not fooled by this Bama fan
 
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Originally posted by almostavol@Nov 2, 2005 5:42 PM
Hey, gonygonygo.......

I don't think UT is in contention for the SEC title this year. Where have you been? Welcome to Earth!!

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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i'm making a "general" comment!!! Use some common sense. I bet you are the type of fan that thinks the offensive problems have been a result of Randy Sanders all by himself too...

What do you know about football??? Probably not a damn thing.
 
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Originally posted by gonygonygo@Nov 2, 2005 4:57 PM
You are right about players not trusting CPF, but we get SO MANY that we can afford that luxury of guys to go elsewhere, and we still get a top 10 recruiting class.  We lost guys like Onterrio Smith and Montrell Jones and Cadillac Williams, yet we are always contending for the SEC title every year.
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Are you serious?? Cadillac was the only one we "lost". WHere are those other 2 and why they left UT is the question?? Do some research and check back.

Here's a hint: :devilsmoke:
 
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gonygonygo,

Sorry if I hit a nerve. You don't know anything about me. But I do know that about all you can do is make 'general' statements. And no, I think UT's failures this year are due to Fulmer being a lousy coach. He lost control, and he knows it. He's on his way down, down, down.
 
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Originally posted by Mudyuppie@Nov 1, 2005 10:17 PM
I follow High School football closely in North Alabama and Southern Middle Tennessee. Last week I spoke with several players from Huntsville and Murphreesboro. I was asking them about colleges they were hoping to get a chance at playng for and all of them, not  two or three, but all of them (about 19 in all) said they would never play for CPF! The most common response was "I don't trust him". Now these were not blue chippers by any means but I was very suprised to hear pretty much the same response from all of them!

Is anyone else hearing anything like this from any big recruits?

Has CPF damaged his name that bad?

just curious.
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Definitely a Bama fan trying to stir up trouble. Shula couldn't carry Phil's recruiting jock, to turn a phrase.
 
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i've always felt a good season on the field translated to a good recruiting year, and vice versa.

we will not have a good recruiting year this year for this reason IMO. i think the next 2 years will be rebuilding years, with a new dline, linebacker corp, redshirt freshman qb possibly, etc. This doesnt spell well for fulmer. I think recruiting will be down for 3 years potentially.

fulmer is graduating what was 4 years ago the #2 recruiting class in the nation per www.rivals.com and all he has to show for it is probably a 6-5 record. what happens when fulmer has the #22 recruiting class for a couple of seasons. i think fulmer will be gone in probably 3-5 years as a result of it.

i think we are looking at a lot of 7-4, 6-5 seasons in a row and fulmer being asked to resign. just my take, i know probably no one on this board is going to agree with this, but thats whats its for, to voice an opinion, good or bad.
 
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Originally posted by almostavol@Nov 2, 2005 7:26 PM
gonygonygo,

Sorry if I hit a nerve. You don't know anything about me. But I do know that about all you can do is make 'general' statements. And no, I think UT's failures this year are due to Fulmer being a lousy coach. He lost control, and he knows it. He's on his way down, down, down.
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You are definitely right about losing control of the team. But what's everyone's favorite thing to do around here???

BLAME IT ON RANDY SANDERS!!!

They either complain about his play-calling (which was pretty good for the quarterback he had, but could have been better); or player development (which never falls in the hands of ONE coach).

I blame this sinking ship on CPF. He can still recruit talent here, I just think this group of players was a bust combined with Fulmer losing control of his team.
 
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Why would I poll kids who we aren't recruting to see whether or not they trust our head coach and then use that data to project what real prospects think about him? Logical fallacy at work here.
 
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Originally posted by Mudyuppie@Nov 1, 2005 8:17 PM
I follow High School football closely in North Alabama and Southern Middle Tennessee. Last week I spoke with several players from Huntsville and Murphreesboro.
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For someone that follows the game there, the location of the TSSAA Football Championship games, you'd think they'd know it's "Murfreesboro." :blink:
 
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I may be showing my considerable ignorance, but I can see why the average player might not trust PF.

It might have something to do with "You're my QB. No, YOU'RE my QB. Wait, wait...you're it." For these 2 QB's to have been fighting for the position all season and then for them to get moved in and out almost randomly would make me a little nervous about committing, too.

I'm just wondering, how would a player's talent level indicate his ability to judge character? Couldn't there be some intelligent kids in Murfreesboro even if they're not blue chips?
 
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Maybe so . . . but I'd say most 18 year olds have no earthly idea about CPF's character other than what someone else has told them.

...and I think most 18 year olds are smart enough to realize that the reason we keep rotating QBs is that neither one of them has performed well enough to keep the job.
 
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1. This year was not going to a top recruiting class from the get go.
2. UT has only 15 players graduating
3. Very few Glamour players and no QB's which is what you have to have to get a top class
4. Right now with 7 commits UT is ranked 21st, looks like UT is doing ok to me, that does not factor in Jonathan Mapu and Gerald Williams both 4 stars out of high school and we all know what Mapu can do.
 
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