Longhorn Network to Televise "Select" High School Football Games

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bamawriter said:
Missouri prostrated themselves before the Big Ten, but the Big Ten didn't want them. A&M was a breath away from joining the SEC, but stayed in the Big XII based upon promises of a larger stake in the revenue sharing. Turns out those promises weren't worth much.

The Aggies will be in the SEC within five years. Missouri is interesting. Perhaps the Big Ten would accept them in response to an expanded SEC, but if I'm the SEC, I'd give the Tigers a serious look. They may be worth more than Oklahoma.
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very much in agreement here


and it'd put the big ten in a position that it'd be interesting to see their reaction
 
#27
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AJeray4TN said:
That just isn't true. It is 100% a recruiting advantage to be able to cherry pick your top recruits high school football games and put them on TV. Surely you see that, no?
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If texas wasn't already cherry picking their recruits and getting them already I might go with it.

I mean, how many guys that texas wants, I mean really wants, do they not get?
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tigervol9802 said:
If texas wasn't already cherry picking their recruits and getting them already I might go with it.

I mean, how many guys that texas wants, I mean really wants, do they not get?
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That's not the point. So because Texas already lands a top-five class every year, the NCAA should just say screw it, and let them do whatever they want?

Cherry picking recruits that are knocking down your door is one thing--an embarrassment of riches.

Cherry picking recruits that you've greased up by televising their senior year of football is a completely different issue. By even its most literal definition, this is an extra benefit.
 
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AJeray4TN said:
That's not the point. So because Texas already lands a top-five class every year, the NCAA should just say screw it, and let them do whatever they want?

Cherry picking recruits that are knocking down your door is one thing--an embarrassment of riches.

Cherry picking recruits that you've greased up by televising their senior year of football is a completely different issue. By even its most literal definition, this is an extra benefit.
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Im just saying that practically, its not really going to matter. My guess is the kids they'll televise are committed to texas anyway.

That said, I doubt they'll be able to do it in 12.
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#30
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t.u. already gets what they want in the state. Stoops shortly after. It's up to us to decide. The SEC will gain very little as far as the theory of "add aTm and Texas will be open ground". I realize that.

The issue is that t.u. is behind us. Ou is on even ground. The rest don't matter. The time is now.

Torch the bridge, kiss your girl, and roll the dice in the land of unprecedented scrutiny regarding recruiting practices, ethics, and academic standards.

Sans our SWC days, I'd say you're getting a decent add.

All homerism aside. Maybe.
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TXVOL07 said:
t.u. already gets what they want in the state. Stoops shortly after. It's up to us to decide. The SEC will gain very little as far as the theory of "add aTm and Texas will be open ground". I realize that.

The issue is that t.u. is behind us. Ou is on even ground. The rest don't matter. The time is now.

Torch the bridge, kiss your girl, and roll the dice in the land of unprecedented scrutiny regarding recruiting practices, ethics, and academic standards.

Sans our SWC days, I'd say you're getting a decent add.

All homerism aside. Maybe.
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Im a Michigan State guy first, Florida second. I went to both schools, grew up with both schools, but lived 10 min from the campus of MSU most of my life.

I have also followed College Football since the early 70s. I have seen the ups and downs of a lot of teams. Ive torched a lot of bridges and kissed a lot of girls, and Id roll my dice with Texas A&M anytime.

Every program has had it's ups and downs. A&M is a class act. Great school in my opinion. And would be a great add for any league. Im a bigger fan of the school than I am of any of it's athletic programs. Win, Lose or Draw, I think they would be a quality addition to the SEC.

(so there is a non-homerism view of the whole mess)
 
#33
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Dan Brown didnt do Texas any favors by clarifying their intentions regarding HS players. Congrats sips, one of your own just accidentally screwed you.
 
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Why was this not addressed before? Seems like stupid timing. Should have been addressed immediately.
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tigervol9802 said:
If you are thinking inside the box.

If you want to make a splash in the media markets, you make a call to Maryland.
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The faulty logic people use to convey the Turtles as a big deal is the same one that they use for Rutgers; Just because they are by far the most prominent college football programs that are adjacent to massive media markets doesn't mean people give a crap. DC and everything north of there is all about pro sports and only about pro sports, and when you're talking about the Skins, Giants and Pats, I don't know why they wouldn't be.

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Im just saying that practically, its not really going to matter. My guess is the kids they'll televise are committed to texas anyway.

That said, I doubt they'll be able to do it in 12.
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I doubt that, and even if they were, what about cases where there is another prominent recruit in that same game that had not yet made a commitment? After the tOSU ruling, if this horsecrap gets approved, anybody left that doesn't think the NCAA deliberately goes out of its way to protect the interests of its cash cows (pun intended) will look nuttier than a squirrel turd.
 
#36
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I'm not sure, but I think they said on College Football Live that some of the high school games were getting scrapped along with the conference game Texas wanted televised.
 
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For a less sensationalized report, one can follow this link:

Longhorn Network, NCAA working out high school game kinks | CollegeFootballTalk

Chances are, Christianson is talking about bylaw 13.10 (titled Publicity). If you want to read the full rule, you can HERE, but what’s important to know is that a prospective athlete can’t be involved (in person, on film or audio) with a television or radio broadcast that might feature a coach from UT, or is organized by someone in the athletics department at UT.

ESPN can schedule the event. Texas cannot.

Additionally, the University Interscholastic League, a Texas-based inter-school organization founded by UT, prohibits live TV game broadcasts on Friday nights. Currently, the UIL has a television deal with Fox Sprots Net.

That means ESPN would have to pick up individual district games.

“ESPN will select the games based on what they feel is best,” UT athletics director DeLoss Dodds said.
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A problem would only arise if and when someone from the Longhorn Athletic Department tells a kid that they can put him on national-TV. Of course, this is not out of the question, yet it would mean that representatives from Texas would have to contact someone outside of that community in order to follow through on such an illicit promise.
 
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therealUT said:
For a less sensationalized report, one can follow this link:

Longhorn Network, NCAA working out high school game kinks | CollegeFootballTalk



A problem would only arise if and when someone from the Longhorn Athletic Department tells a kid that they can put him on national-TV. Of course, this is not out of the question, yet it would mean that representatives from Texas would have to contact someone outside of that community in order to follow through on such an illicit promise.
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So as long as Texas doesn't "know" which recruits ESPN will feature on the longhorn network its ok, right?

KInd of like Cam didn't know about his dads deal.
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General Jack said:
So as long as Texas doesn't "know" which recruits ESPN will feature on the longhorn network its ok, right?

KInd of like Cam didn't know about his dads deal.
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Irrelevant comparison. Make a relevant comparison though and it might be intriguing enough for me to think about.
 
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therealUT said:
Irrelevant comparison. Make a relevant comparison though and it might be intriguing enough for me to think about.
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Wow you really are a dick.

Please, someone make him a relevant comparison. I'm on pins and needles here, dying to hear from the almighty therealut.
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the.one.the.only said:
Wow you really are a dick.

Please, someone make him a relevant comparison. I'm on pins and needles here, dying to hear from the almighty therealut.
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I could be the nicest guy in the world and it would not mean that his comparison was irrelevant; but, you are right, I am a "dick" because I will provide my thoughts without sugar-coating them or coddling anybody's feelings.
 
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therealUT said:
Irrelevant comparison. Make a relevant comparison though and it might be intriguing enough for me to think about.
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Lol. Given that this is uncharted territory I guess you won't be intrigued. Good news is that you won't have to think.
 
#46
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General Jack said:
Absolutely, give yourself a smug pat on the back.
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I am still awaiting the connection between Auburn boosters paying Cam Newton's dad in order to entice Newton into playing at Auburn and ESPN making a decision independent of the Texas AD, and independent of their influence, to broadcast certain high school football games.

The SportsbyBrooks article was nothing more than sensationalized fear-mongering; the NBC article was much more reasonable and demonstrated the disconnect between the AD and the ESPN broadcasting decisions. MetroSports KC televises KU football and basketball in the greater KC Metropolitan area. MetroSports KC also televises local high school games. Every single commercial break has a commercial regarding KU sports; is this an unfair recruiting advantage for KU? I would assume that Atlanta, Atlanta, and New Orleans have similar stations.

The fact that the ESPN station is named the Longhorn Network does not mean that the Texas AD has complete control over the programming. It simply means that ESPN has bought exclusive rights, from the University of Texas, to broadcast Longhorn's home games. That is it and it is not all that different from NBC's contract with ND Football.

Do you think it is unfair for college teams to host State Championship games? That certainly could be counted as a recruiting visit, as the players get access to the facilities.
 
#47
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To me, it is an unbelievably unfair advantage. Thought that from the moment I saw it scroll across my ESPN bottomline.
 
#48
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therealUT said:
I am still awaiting the connection between Auburn boosters paying Cam Newton's dad in order to entice Newton into playing at Auburn and ESPN making a decision independent of the Texas AD, and independent of their influence, to broadcast certain high school football games.

The SportsbyBrooks article was nothing more than sensationalized fear-mongering; the NBC article was much more reasonable and demonstrated the disconnect between the AD and the ESPN broadcasting decisions. MetroSports KC televises KU football and basketball in the greater KC Metropolitan area. MetroSports KC also televises local high school games. Every single commercial break has a commercial regarding KU sports; is this an unfair recruiting advantage for KU? I would assume that Atlanta, Atlanta, and New Orleans have similar stations.

The fact that the ESPN station is named the Longhorn Network does not mean that the Texas AD has complete control over the programming. It simply means that ESPN has bought exclusive rights, from the University of Texas, to broadcast Longhorn's home games. That is it and it is not all that different from NBC's contract with ND Football.

Do you think it is unfair for college teams to host State Championship games? That certainly could be counted as a recruiting visit, as the players get access to the facilities.
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Speaking of irrelevant comparisons...
 
#49
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therealUT said:
Irrelevant comparison. Make a relevant comparison though and it might be intriguing enough for me to think about.
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therealUT said:
I am still awaiting the connection between Auburn boosters paying Cam Newton's dad in order to entice Newton into playing at Auburn and ESPN making a decision independent of the Texas AD, and independent of their influence, to broadcast certain high school football games.
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I'm surprised you're waiting. Thought Cam not knowing what his dad did, and texas not knowing (wink wink) what ESPN is programming on the longhorn network, was irrelevant and not intriguing enough to warrant your consideration.
 
#50
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General Jack said:
I'm surprised you're waiting. Thought Cam not knowing what his dad did, and texas not knowing (wink wink) what ESPN is programming on the longhorn network, was irrelevant and not intriguing enough to warrant your consideration.
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Still waiting.
 
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