Looking at the roster and the facts

#26
#26
DynamiteMcGhee said:
I didn't realize Butch Jones helped recruit a bunch of our offense before taking over the whole show.
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This loss will forever be with coach jones much like the kentucky loss was with dooley. It was dooleys fault then and it CBJ fault now. Sunshine pumpers say look towards to the future but refuse to live in the present and they love to blame the past
 
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#27
#27
mtvols said:
Just summarizing the issues on the roster:

Offense
1. We lost a QB early to the NFL and was left with little experience. Due to injury, we are basically playing our 3rd or 4th team QB.

2. Our experienced OL seems to consistently under perform.

3. We lost 2 receivers and a TE to the NFL leaving us with no experience. We only have two dependable receivers on the roster. No production out of the TE position.

4. We have players recruited for a pro style system but are trying to run a read option offense.

5. Probably our best RB, Lane doesn't get enough carries. Would like to see what he could do with 20 carries.

Defense

1. Just like our OL, our DL hasn't lived up to their recruiting rankings. The Seniors are on their 4th straight DL coach. Despite our experience we can't consistently put pressure on the QB.

2. LB are too slow and can't cover pass routes. We've started two new starters this year. One being a former Safety. The loss of Maggitt hurt. No depth.

3. No depth in the secondary. Our nickel position and backups are walk ons.

4. We've gone from a 4-3 to 3-4 and back to a 4-3 in the past 3 seasons.

Coaching

1. Four head coaches in 6 years. Has any other program endured that?

2. 42 coaches including S&C coaches in 5 years.

3. Defense is on their 3rd straight DC.

4. Offensive play calling is too conservative. Our opponent knows we can't pass well so they stack the box to stop the run.

Schedule

1. Seven games vs ranked teams and five vs Top 10 teams. I doubt any team in the country has played five Top 10 teams.
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All of this was true before the season started and that didn't stop the enthusiasm. In fact, if anyone mentioned any of these things they were called a negavol and "didn't get it."
 
#30
#30
Boca Vol said:
All of this was true before the season started and that didn't stop the enthusiasm. In fact, if anyone mentioned any of these things they were called a negavol and "didn't get it."
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All of that wasn't true before the season. Just saying.

What's your point? You called it? You get it? Or you're still upset someone called you a negavol in July? Tell.
 
#31
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allvol123 said:
Yes. They changed back to the coach who the roster was filled in order to,run his system, previously.
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I've never understood using Auburn as an example. It's nowhere near the same situation.
 
#32
#32
Freak said:
Are you suggesting the talent level between the two is the same?
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Auburn has had Some better classes than us...'cause they (paid $225k) produced a National Championship. But we've averaged Top 12-15 classes over the same period of time. And Butch knew many of our players before stepping off the Gas Man's plane.
 
#33
#33
jortfreeTN said:
I won't appologize for this team. The goal was 6 wins and Coach Jones and this team failed.
I think Butch and co. have said all the right things and can get us there but they came up short this season and it's on them as coaches. I really like what this staff is doing off the field but the honey moon is over, they need to start producing.
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I couldn't have said it better myself. Spot freakin' on.

2013 Season = Failure.
 
#35
#35
With a senior line, junior QB, and two experienced RB's this team should have done something with a schedule that had seven 4-loss teams on it.
 
#39
#39
SGMVols said:
There is never, ever an excuse to lose to Vanderbilt. End of story.
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^^^This. Period. End of story.

I have been with this team all season. But the loss, and how we looked, was like an uppercut to the chin after a series of body blows. I just can't get back up this year. UK game is first I will miss in over 20 years.
 
#43
#43
Don't know what the answer is, but the excuses are all used up and actually pathetic.

Maybe we can't compare our situation to Auburn in talent or whatever. Fact James Franklin coaches in the SEC with questionable talent his first year he goes to a bowl game, hasn't missed one yet. Bill O'Brien takes over an absolute train wreck of a program at Penn State with players transferring left and right, scholly bans galore 8 wins his first season.... Maybe the coach matters...?
 
#44
#44
TnMuleman said:
Don't know what the answer is, but the excuses are all used up and actually pathetic.

Maybe we can't compare our situation to Auburn in talent or whatever. Fact James Franklin coaches in the SEC with questionable talent his first year he goes to a bowl game, hasn't missed one yet. Bill O'Brien takes over an absolute train wreck of a program at Penn State with players transferring left and right, scholly bans galore 8 wins his first season.... Maybe the coach matters...?
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O'Brien and Franklin get it.
 
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