LSU - Alabama rematch?

[vols-1]

First of all, I would like to see your source.

Secondly, higher rating only means higher percentage of people watched the game, and it doesn't necessarily mean more people watched. People living in the SEC territories (~50 million) only make up a small fraction of total US population (~300 million). An Alabama/LSU rematch surely will attract higher rating in the South, but South is only a small part of national audience. If people living elsewhere don't give a crap, TV networks could still make much less money.

First of all the ratings are based on people 18-49 years old not the whole population. It's not an exact science, but based on the Google map you can see where the college fans are.

Lets just put it this way, the highest ratings for Boise St. football, this year and last year were in Birmingham AL. Birmingham draws highest TV rating for Boise State-Virginia Tech | al.com

 

[SDV]

No. Bama already got their shot and lost, at home.
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[VolsSportsFan]

AP guy on Sports Animal today probably put it the best.

If we're pushing the regular season as the "playoffs" in college football, then LSU just eliminated Alabama. No rematch.

Even tho they are still probably the best two teams.

Exactly. People who push that idea can't have it both ways. If either OSU or Stanford win out, then Alabama doesn't deserve to go. If both of those teams win, then yeah, Alabama is back in. Although if they turn around and beat LSU in the championship, that pretty much still kills the "regular season matters" argument.

 

[TennesseeFan07]

What if Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State? What if Oregon beats Stanford? What if Arkansas beats LSU? Then about eight different teams will be equal with one loss and all having justifications over each other.

 

[Hardwood_fanatic]

Plus I didn't see enough on the LSU INT to make the call definitive one way or the other, I thought they should have just ruled it an incomplete pass and moved on.

The ball never touched the ground, it had to be a catch, one way or the other.

I wouldn't mind seeing the rematch, because quite frankly its the most competitive game outside of maybe Stanford.

 

[will5]

I am pulling for Standford or BSU against LSU in the NCG. Those two games will be entertaining good matchups and generate a lot of national buzz. I used to think if BSU is ever in the NCG, I am done with CFB, but I changed my mind. BSU is consistent (the winningest program in CFB in the past 10 years), well-coached, and in the limited opportunities they had, they played very well against the big boys. Then give them a chance.

I don't mind but don't really want to see a LSU/Bama rematch. Unlike Oregon or OK State, Bama will have a chance, a good chance, to beat LSU. However, a rematch would be boring and appeal much less to the national audience, unless you are an SEC homer.

On the other hand, those so called high-octane offense such as what Oregon or OK State has, will be destroyed by physical, athletic, and well-coached defense like what LSU or Bama has, and it won't even be close.

Orly??

Ted Miller at ESPN wrote this:

Who's going to note that Oregon gained 335 yards -- 95 rushing -- against LSU's MANLY MAN DEFENSE that held Alabama -- in overtime! -- to 295 yards (96 rushing)? Who's going to say, hey, did you know that Oregon's dinky little Pac-12 defense held LSU to 273 yards, not much more than ALABAMA's MANLY MAN DEFENSE, which held the Tigers to 239?

That's only 34 yards difference if you're too lazy to do the math.

Oregon averaged 3.4 yards per rush against LSU. Alabama averaged 3.1 yards per rush against LSU. LSU averaged 3.6 yards per rush against Oregon. Guess what LSU averaged against ALABAMA's MANLY MAN DEFENSE? If you said 3.6 yards per rush, you get to feel awesome about yourself for 10 seconds.

Oregon ranks 26th in the nation in scoring defense (20.78) supporting an offense that ranks last in the nation in time of possession -- by a a minute and a half. Sure, it gives up some yards, but its yards per play -- 4.79 -- is the same as Virginia Tech, which ranks 12th in the nation in total defense. In fact, the Ducks yards per play is equal to or better than 10 defenses that rank in the nation's top-25 and is comparable to five others.

 

[BIG BOI 23]

hell no that game was pretty bad imo they couldnt even combine for 300 pass yds

i wanna see OU or OSU play LSU they both got QB's and WR's that can put some points up

 

[tri_vol]

Orly??

Ted Miller at ESPN wrote this:


That's only 34 yards difference if you're too lazy to do the math.

Ted completely ignores the fact Jordan Jefferson didn't play on that game. The speed option gives LSU's run game a dimension they didn't have in that Oregon game. If anything what Bama did is more impressive because they played when LSU had a complete team.
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[exotic_vols]

First of all the ratings are based on people 18-49 years old not the whole population. It's not an exact science, but based on the Google map you can see where the college fans are.

Lets just put it this way, the highest ratings for Boise St. football, this year and last year were in Birmingham AL. Birmingham draws highest TV rating for Boise State-Virginia Tech | al.com

First, I want to see the source of this map. I have no idea what dark/light blue on that map mean, and I have no idea what search volume index is.

Second, as I explained before, my argument is I believe there are there are higher percentage of CFB fans in the South by using common sense, but due to small total population (in any age group) in the South, I am not convinced the South has more or even comparable amount of CFB fans by sheer number as compared to rest of the country.

For example, say Birmingham AL (population of 1 million) has a 10% of rating on a CFB game, that means about about 100,000 people watched that game. However, NY (population of 15 million) has only 2% of rating for the same game, but that means about 300,000 people watched that game in NY. How can you conclude there are more CFB fans in Birmingham than NY just because Birmingham has a higher TV rating on that game?

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Do you want to see an Alabama-LSU rematch in the BCS Championship?

Vote here.

I think it would be awful. Boise St. deserves a chance before Bama, if Oklahoma St. and Stanford lose.

I would love to see a rematch, but I don't think it should happen
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[exotic_vols]

Orly??

Ted Miller at ESPN wrote this:


That's only 34 yards difference if you're too lazy to do the math.

I lover how people spin the stats in their favor. I noticed the following things:

1. You/Miller used total offense when comparing Bama/Oregon offense against LSU, but used scoring defense (not total defense) when talking about the Oregon defense, while adding "Sure, it gives up some yards". Isn't that funny to you?

One potential pitfall of using total defense is if the other team (LSU) forced a lot of turnovers (4) and get the short field or score quickly, Oregon's total defense could still look good, while LSU's total offense could look like crap. By the way, what does the score board say?

2. You/Miller only compared ypc when comparing Bama/Oregon rushing offense against LSU, but ignore the ypc in the passing offense.

How about this stat? Oregon ran 82 plays (54P, 28R) against LSU, and gained 335 yards. That's 4.08 y/p, Bama ran 60 plays (29 P, 31R) and gained 295 yards. That's 4.92 y/p. You see how I can spin the stats in my favor?

3. "The real question is what might have happened if Oregon didn't commit four of its 10 turnovers this season in the opener against LSU."

Miller sounds like Oregon is playing flag football, and those turnovers have nothing to do with the intensity and physicality or basically quality of the defense. Anyone knows a thing or two about football (not flag football) would laugh at his statement.

4. After all the "stats" you/Miller presented, please remind me what the score board says? Bama lost by 3 in over time, and Oregon lost by 13. Oh wait, did you take into account how many yards/TD Oregon scored in the garbage time? How does garbage time distort the final stats? I remembered Thomas scored one TD in the garbage time. If you/Miller didn't see LSU manhandled Oregon, while Bama matched up very well with LSU, then I don't know what to tell you.

Basically, I normally don't give a shet about what a Pac 12 homer, such as Ted Miller said. Don't get me wrong, Oregon is a very solid team regardless of what Miller or I said. I just don't think it will be a good match-up for Oregon again in the NCG. Of course, I may change my mind after this weekend.

 

[TrueOrange]

not a fan of rematches...they seem to quite often tend to be 1 sided blowouts in the bigger games

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

not a fan of rematches...they seem to quite often tend to be 1 sided blowouts in the bigger games

I was thinking about this earlier, in 04 auburn beat us pretty soundly in the seccg game that was a rematch from earlier in the year, and last year auburn pounded uscjr in the seccg. but then there was the nebraska vs washington bowl game rematch last year, neb won the regular season and washington won big in the bowl
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[VolsSportsFan]

I was thinking about this earlier, in 04 auburn beat us pretty soundly in the seccg game that was a rematch from earlier in the year, and last year auburn pounded uscjr in the seccg. but then there was the nebraska vs washington bowl game rematch last year, neb won the regular season and washington won big in the bowl
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I think you got it backwards, in 04 Auburn pounded us in the regular season but the SECC was a closer game.
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[Notorious B.E.N]

I think you got it backwards, in 04 Auburn pounded us in the regular season but the SECC was a closer game.
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oh, I thought it wasn't too close in the seccg, I just remembered being mad, I guess it wasn't as ugly as a remembered lol
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[TrueOrange]

yeah it tends to flip flop....one's close the other's not...just whichever comes the first time it seems