LSU recruiting sanctions

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BowlBrother85 said:
The punishment is excessive but they didn't have to sign a recruit to a financial aid agreement in August. Les probably thought the signed agreement would leave the player with a sense of obligation to honor his commitment but kids just don't think that way.
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If one of our early enrollees did this and put this sanction on Tennessee you would be singing a different tune.
 
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This is an example of why I watch sports less and less, nothing makes sense. The NCAA, SEC and schools deserve what is going to be coming down the pike.

Basically, this is the end of early financial aid signings, in general, as any other school and player can setup another school easily.... by the player just not signing with the team they submitted paperwork to.

To make things worse is I have little doubt this was done on purpose.
 
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Just my opinion, but if a kid does this to a school they should make him sit a year also. Its not fair to punish the school alone for him misleading them.
 
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The early signing period for FAAs is meant for kids who will be enrolling early. If this penalty is based on the recruitment of Womack, then LSU's screwup was not making sure that the kid was going to graduate early so that he would be eligible to enroll early. Even if he'd wound up signing with LSU in February, they would have been guilty of violating the spirit of the rule.
 
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volfanbill said:
If one of our early enrollees did this and put this sanction on Tennessee you would be singing a different tune.
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No, I really wouldn't. Whether LSU was 'marking their territory' or just trying to instill this player with a sense of obligation they clearly jumped the gun by signing him to a financial aid agreement in August. A player's academic standing can change in a full semester as well as their college of choice. The punishment is excessive like I said but I think bamawriter is correct when he said that they were violating the spirit of this rule. The NCAA obviously took offense to that and has made an example of them.
 
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The SEC has sanctioned LSU over this. The NCAA probably didn't find out about it until yesterday like everyone else.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
...but the basic point remains the same. Don't sign players to financial aid agreements in August.
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...but the real point is, what business does the SEC have acting as a defacto infractions committee? I can't think of another case the boys in Birmingham have seen fit to stick their nose into.
 
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spankadelphia said:
...but the real point is, what business does the SEC have acting as a defacto infractions committee? I can't think of another case the boys in Birmingham have seen fit to stick their nose into.
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How about Bruce Pearl? He was suspended for 8 SEC games in 2011 even when it was apparent that he would be hit later with a show cause penalty by the NCAA committee on infractions.
 
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bamawriter said:
The early signing period for FAAs is meant for kids who will be enrolling early. If this penalty is based on the recruitment of Womack, then LSU's screwup was not making sure that the kid was going to graduate early so that he would be eligible to enroll early. Even if he'd wound up signing with LSU in February, they would have been guilty of violating the spirit of the rule.
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Huh. Graduation is not known until they actually graduate, that is an impossibility, which is what the rule is.


Either way basically the end of these agreements, matter of fact, if I were a recruiter, I would recommend recruits do it, which I believe might have been the case.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Huh. Graduation is not known until they actually graduate, that is an impossibility, which is what the rule is.


Either way basically the end of these agreements, matter of fact, if I were a recruiter, I would recommend recruits do it, which I believe might have been the case.
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If you don't know by August of your Senior year if you're graduating early, then you probably aren't. This is not a complicated deal. LSU gambled on an unknown in order to get a chance at unlimited contact. It blew up in their faces.

I think the penalty is a tad ridiculous, but there is no question that LSU violated the rule. No one made them do it.
 
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bamawriter said:
If you don't know by August of your Senior year if you're graduating early, then you probably aren't. /QUOTE]

I didn't know I was going graduate at all, matter of fact, at the time I graduated you actually had to attend graduation to get a diploma, and grades were not received until a few days before that.

What you are talking about is speculation, which has no basis in rules or even the legal field, in general. Under your speculation theory, nobody in my class would have known they were going to graduate.

Players are actually signing multiple financial agreements with multiple schools, which would be violation if the rule actually existed, but it doesn't.... which is why they had to make up a rule that doesn't exist with LSU.

Basically, the end of financial agreements as a player that signs an agreement, and the school complies with the rule as written, and the player does not show up on campus... under this stupid SEC theory... that is violation of the secret rule.
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I didn't know I was going graduate at all, matter of fact, at the time I graduated you actually had to attend graduation to get a diploma, and grades were not received until a few days before that.

What you are talking about is speculation, which has no basis in rules or even the legal field, in general. Under your speculation theory, nobody in my class would have known they were going to graduate.

Players are actually signing multiple financial agreements with multiple schools, which would be violation if the rule actually existed, but it doesn't.... which is why they had to make up a rule that doesn't exist with LSU.

Basically, the end of financial agreements as a player that signs an agreement, and the school complies with the rule as written, and the player does not show up on campus... under this stupid SEC theory... that is violation of the secret rule.
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Well, I guess my grades weren't borderline to the point where I had any doubts leading up to graduation.

And the fact that you think that this rule was made up to punish LSU is so silly it doesn't even deserve a response.
 
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bamawriter said:
And the fact that you think that this rule was made up to punish LSU is so silly it doesn't even deserve a response.
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You're comments are idiotic as normal as I never said anything such thing.

Of course my speculation on these events are pretty obvious, either way more or less an end to these financial aid agreements... good going Saban.

I dare Bama to sign a financial aid agreement with a kid from La., I double dog dare them.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You're comments are idiotic as normal as I never said anything such thing.

Of course my speculation on these events are pretty obvious, either way more or less an end to these financial aid agreements... good going Saban.

I dare Bama to sign a financial aid agreement with a kid from La., I double dog dare them.
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Womack isn't from Alabama. And Bama was apparently aware enough of the rule to not sign him to an FAA. Sorry Miles is dumb.

And Saban is a big proponent of the early signing FAA, so I'm mot sure why you think he'd do something that could jeopardize the new rule. Wait, I do know why you'd think that: you're a whiny, paranoid corndog.
 
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bamawriter said:
Womack isn't from Alabama. And Bama was apparently aware enough of the rule to not sign him to an FAA. Sorry Miles is dumb.

And Saban is a big proponent of the early signing FAA, so I'm mot sure why you think he'd do something that could jeopardize the new rule. Wait, I do know why you'd think that: you're a whiny, paranoid corndog.
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I thought you weren't responding. Even Forest has more logic, keep licking.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
bamawriter said:
If you don't know by August of your Senior year if you're graduating early, then you probably aren't. /QUOTE]

I didn't know I was going graduate at all, matter of fact, at the time I graduated you actually had to attend graduation to get a diploma, and grades were not received until a few days before that.

What you are talking about is speculation, which has no basis in rules or even the legal field, in general. Under your speculation theory, nobody in my class would have known they were going to graduate.

Players are actually signing multiple financial agreements with multiple schools, which would be violation if the rule actually existed, but it doesn't.... which is why they had to make up a rule that doesn't exist with LSU.

Basically, the end of financial agreements as a player that signs an agreement, and the school complies with the rule as written, and the player does not show up on campus... under this stupid SEC theory... that is violation of the secret rule.
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After last season, a player was only allowed to sign ONE FAA with ONE school.
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If a Bama fan and an LSU fan squares off in the Waffle House parking lot, I am pulling for the LSU fan. Just because I hate BAMA so much.
 
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