LSU/SEC discussion (split from recruiting)

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xpsyclonex2002 said:
LSU will not be beating Alabama nor Oregon this year.
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LSU will beat Oregon. Mark that down. Oregon is just not a good first-game team. Unless they are playing an undermanned squad (see last year's first game). I believe LSU will win.
 
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byobbio said:
LSU will beat Oregon. Mark that down. Oregon is just not a good first-game team. Unless they are playing an undermanned squad (see last year's first game). I believe LSU will win.
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LSU is going to give Oregon's team hell. They'll just be too physical for them.
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#28
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Comes down to Jarret Lee. Pretty simple. LSU will be able to handle Oregon on defense. If they can keep them 21 or below, LSU has a great chance. QB has to be good.
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LynxVol said:
Comes down to Jarret Lee. Pretty simple. LSU will be able to handle Oregon on defense. If they can keep them 21 or below, LSU has a great chance. QB has to be good.
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Lol, you think LSU will score more than 21 points. Good luck with that.
 
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byobbio said:
LSU will beat Oregon. Mark that down. Oregon is just not a good first-game team. Unless they are playing an undermanned squad (see last year's first game). I believe LSU will win.
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LSU barely beat a depleted UNC team without 10 or more players in their first game last year. LSU is without their best offensive lineman, their starting QB and their most dynamic offensive playmaker, so in a way this is like karma for the unfair advantage they had last season in their opener. I got news for you guys Oregon is much, much better than UNC or Tennessee, two teams LSU luckily beat in the last seconds last year. LSU is not much better than they were last year and are missing tons of players for this game including their star cornerback who left for the NFL. LSU is the most overrated team in the country this season due to their ridiculously hard schedule. They will lose at least 3 games by the end of the Bama game and they will be extremely lucky if they make it through the regular season without 4 losses. I definitely believe we will beat them in Knoxville this year.

Oregon's going to beat LSU, they are better coached and their defense will cause turnovers. The only way LSU has a chance to win is if their D causes turnovers, but I bet Oregon plays conservatively and runs a lot of time off the clock, much like they did against Auburn. They know LSU won't be able to score a lot on them.
 
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LynxVol said:
Comes down to Jarret Lee. Pretty simple. LSU will be able to handle Oregon on defense. If they can keep them 21 or below, LSU has a great chance. QB has to be good.
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Did you never watch a John Chavis defense try to defend the spread?
 
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therickbol said:
Lol, you think LSU will score more than 21 points. Good luck with that.
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?

Lol. If you don't think LSU can score 21 against a team that isn't exactly known for defense, then consider yourself "challenged."
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#35
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wilrob75 said:
Did you never watch a John Chavis defense try to defend the spread?
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Oregon will score. I'm thinking if they can keep them to about 21, LSU will be in good shape. LSU is BFS all around the field.
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#36
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Everyone is discounting the Elephant in the locker room. The drama thats been going on with LSU the past week will have an affect on them, how much is to be seen. I know Oregon has had their issues also but not as recently as LSU.

Lee thrives in tough situations off the bench but never has been all that good starting.
 
#37
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If it is close at the half then Oregon will win. Chavis is the worst at in game adjustments that I have seen at a major program.
 
#38
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sjt18 said:
If it is close at the half then Oregon will win. Chavis is the worst at in game adjustments that I have seen at a major program.
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Watching UNC throw the ball at will in the 2nd half, when LSU knew they were gonna throw should've been embarrassing for Chavis.
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Watching UNC throw the ball at will in the 2nd half, when LSU knew they were gonna throw should've been embarrassing for Chavis.
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Why? That's the story of his career. I don't think I have every been more frustrated than I was watching his last UT game vs UCLA. IMHO, he has always been carried by talent and his significant ability to develop it.

He is an outstanding LB coach. He does a decent job of game week planning. He is absolutely terrible at playcalling and in-game adjustments.
 
#41
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Everything goes through cycles, LSU has actually had two so so seasons in 2008 and 2009. I personally was not expecting another NC caliber team until at least 2012, this was due in part to Crowton and also a more even recruiting classes in 2009-2011.

As long as LSU can continue to get 95% of the state recruits chances are it will be among or close to the top, if it ever stops getting the players in-state then I would expect a fall.

I for one have no estimate on the outcome of the LSU-Oregon game. With 3 OCs in a 6 month span, who knows how the offense will perform. I am just glad Crowton is gone and LSU can get back to playing Tiger football on O eventually.

As far as LSU's D last year, other than probably 3-4 quarters all year they were dominating. Which is why there was 10 wins with basically no offense.
 
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LSU has just as much talent as anybody. Their talent cupboard is top 5 in the country. But with a mediocre coach that gets lucky sometimes, they'll always be 9-3, 10-2 every season with the occasional breakout year. IMO, LSU has arguably the most talent in the SEC right now, but coaching makes a lot of the difference.
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#43
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miles is a lucky bastard :eek:lol:

he pulled out 2 lucky W's against UT and UF last yr again i wonder how many more lucky season he has left lol

that 2007 season was the luckiest of all time lol
 
#44
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gordonr24 said:
LSU has just as much talent as anybody. They're talent cupboard is top 5 in the country. But with a mediocre coach that gets lucky sometimes, they'll always be 9-3, 10-2 every season with the occasional breakout year. IMO, LSU has arguably the most talent in the SEC right now, but coaching makes a lot of the difference.
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Actually I would say Georgia has ranked up there in talent and has zero to show for it and I actually think they have a good coach. There is more to winning then coaching and talent. Duke gets the best BB talent hands down and has the best coach hands down yet they don't win the championship every year. Why? Many factors.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Actually I would say Georgia has ranked up there in talent and has zero to show for it and I actually think they have a good coach. There is more to winning then coaching and talent. Duke gets the best BB talent hands down and has the best coach hands down yet they don't win the championship every year. Why? Many factors.
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Well not every great team with every great coach can win every year either. But you'd atleast expect them to be national title contenders every year

This year's LSU team is the most loaded it has been since the 07 season.
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gordonr24 said:
Well not every great team with every great coach can win every year either. But you'd atleast expect them to be national title contenders every year

This year's LSU team is the most loaded it has been since the 07 season.
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Other than 2008, I consider LSU's team to be a national title contender and able to compete on a high level. And anyone that watch the games in 2008 actually knows that it was LSU's D that went under that year after bo pelini left, it was not the Lee pick 6s that caused it. That is life and you move on.

LSU's team this year could be good but all the mess going on and 3 OCs in 7 months I would say it will be an up and down year. I believe I have said on this board well over a year ago the next runs will be 2012-2014. As long as Crowton is gone I am happy and eventually the offense can get back on track.

I feel you do not have realistic expectations and really you are just making these comments to make yourself feel better about your own teams current position. Sports should be fun, as long as LSU plays Tiger football I don't care what the record is. One of the best football games I have every seen was LSU v. Florida 2007, by the middle of the 4th quarter I didn't care if LSU even won, they were playing great football with a tough opponent. Just my take, records are not the end all of be all to me.

I am not a huge Miles fan, yes he pisses me off from time to time but the players really like him. I am not ready to throw him under the bus completely yet. Crowton threw himself under the bus with what I would call some of the worse play calling I have ever seen.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
LSU will not be beating Alabama nor Oregon this year.
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Never say never.

LSU will have a up and down year until they pass the ball efficiently. Tough schedule, 3 OCs in 7 months, and off the field issue. If LSU's offense ever starts clicking then they could have a special year. I would put LSU and Alabama about even at this point... great Ds but limited Os.
 
#49
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LSU-SIU said:
Actually I would say Georgia has ranked up there in talent and has zero to show for it and I actually think they have a good coach. There is more to winning then coaching and talent. Duke gets the best BB talent hands down and has the best coach hands down yet they don't win the championship every year. Why? Many factors.
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Georgia's coach is a mini-Fulmer.

You said "hands down," but Duke hasn't had the best BB talent for several years now.
 
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VKAman said:
Georgia's coach is a mini-Fulmer.

You said "hands down," but Duke hasn't had the best BB talent for several years now.
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Duke had the #10 class in 2010, #8 class in 2009 and have the #2 class for 2011. If you look over the last 25 years it's Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky and Ohio State as far as year in year out recruiting.

Good recruits + good coach does not always equal National Championship. If it did USC would have won the BCS every year as they have by far the best recruiting by a mile.

There is more to winning then good players and coaches... add in timing, injuries, chemistry, etc.
 
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