LT to retire a Charger

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#26
I wonder if LT hadnt have gone to the Jets and instead retired 4 years ago, would we be having this ridiculous conversation that he was overrated? For 6 straight years, he was one of the best RBs every to play imo.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Overrated = Over appreciated

So the reason LT is over appreciated is that virtually nobody mentions how good his O line was, and even somebody in this thread stated that LT was "the one bright spot". All the credit is given to LT, no credit is given to the dominant line.

The reason Emmitt is not over appreciated is because virtually everybody gives substantial credit to his dominant line.
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Yeah, we arent going to agree here
 
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BearCat204 said:
I wonder if LT hadnt have gone to the Jets and instead retired 4 years ago, would we be having this ridiculous conversation that he was overrated? For 6 straight years, he was one of the best RBs every to play imo.
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That's actually when I started saying he was overrated. He was great, but people were saying stuff like "Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, and LT."

I just didn't think that LT deserved to be in that conversation.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That's actually when I started saying he was overrated. He was great, but people were saying stuff like "Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, and LT."

I just didn't think that LT deserved to be in that conversation.
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LT certainly belongs in the same discussion with those RBs, especially when you take his 2002-2008 seasons. His stats are there
 
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BearCat204 said:
LT certainly belongs in the same discussion with those RBs, especially when you take his 2002-2008 seasons. His stats are there
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I'm guessing you would say Emmitt Smith is the weakest of those 5. Let's compare their resumes:

LT:
  • 13,684 Rush Yards, 145 TD's, 4.3 YPC, 80.5 Y/G
  • 4,772 Receiving Yards, 17 TD's, 7.6 YPR

Smith:
  • 18,355 Rush Yards, 164 TD's, 4.2 YPC, 81.2 Y/G
  • 3,224 Receiving Yards, 11 TD's, 6.3 YPR

Now factor in that Emmitt was good for 12-13 seasons, and LT was only good for 9 seasons. Factor in that Emmitt led his team to 3 SBs, and was a clutch performer. I don't think they are in the same conversation. In their elite primes they were pretty comparable, but career-wise it's not even close.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm guessing you would say Emmitt Smith is the weakest of those 5. Let's compare their resumes:

LT:
  • 13,684 Rush Yards, 145 TD's, 4.3 YPC, 80.5 Y/G
  • 4,772 Receiving Yards, 17 TD's, 7.6 YPR

Smith:
  • 18,355 Rush Yards, 164 TD's, 4.2 YPC, 81.2 Y/G
  • 3,224 Receiving Yards, 11 TD's, 6.3 YPR

Now factor in that Emmitt was good for 12-13 seasons, and LT was only good for 9 seasons. Factor in that Emmitt led his team to 3 SBs, and was a clutch performer. I don't think they are in the same conversation. In their elite primes they were pretty comparable, but career-wise it's not even close.
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How are they not comparable? Emmitt had 4 more prime seasons and he played on a juggernaut of a team with one of the best offensive lines in football. LT did what he did with a pretty good line. LT was arguably better than Emmitt imo. I would put LT about at the #5 greatest RB of all time, behind Brown, Sanders, Sweetness, and Sayers. There is a great argument for LT, Emmitt and Faulk in that 5th slot imo, but definitely far from LT being overrated. Like I said, I doubt we will agree on that.
 
#32
#32
Even if we never agree, it's still fun, right?

Actually one of the points in favor of Emmitt is the fact that he played until he was like 50 and he still has virtually the same exact YPC, and Y/G as LT. That's impressive.

The only advantage Emmitt enjoyed over LT is the Cowboys solid D. LT had a great line. Again, Emmitt's backups didn't do anything, and LT's backups (even Chatman) put up great numbers. To me that indicates that the SD line was very, very good. He also had the best TE in the league, and for several years had a much better passing attack than Emmitt ever had.
 
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BearCat204 said:
So LT was overrated because he had a great line, but Emmitt isnt overrated when he had a great line as well.................makes sense to me.
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The only season Barry Sanders missed starts Derrick Moore had a comparable YPC. Sanders sucked.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Even if we never agree, it's still fun, right?

Actually one of the points in favor of Emmitt is the fact that he played until he was like 50 and he still has virtually the same exact YPC, and Y/G as LT. That's impressive.

The only advantage Emmitt enjoyed over LT is the Cowboys solid D. LT had a great line. Again, Emmitt's backups didn't do anything, and LT's backups (even Chatman) put up great numbers. To me that indicates that the SD line was very, very good. He also had the best TE in the league, and for several years had a much better passing attack than Emmitt ever had.
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yup
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm guessing you would say Emmitt Smith is the weakest of those 5. Let's compare their resumes:

LT:
  • 13,684 Rush Yards, 145 TD's, 4.3 YPC, 80.5 Y/G
  • 4,772 Receiving Yards, 17 TD's, 7.6 YPR

Smith:
  • 18,355 Rush Yards, 164 TD's, 4.2 YPC, 81.2 Y/G
  • 3,224 Receiving Yards, 11 TD's, 6.3 YPR

Now factor in that Emmitt was good for 12-13 seasons, and LT was only good for 9 seasons. Factor in that Emmitt led his team to 3 SBs, and was a clutch performer. I don't think they are in the same conversation. In their elite primes they were pretty comparable, but career-wise it's not even close.
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Lol
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm guessing you would say Emmitt Smith is the weakest of those 5. Let's compare their resumes:

LT:
  • 13,684 Rush Yards, 145 TD's, 4.3 YPC, 80.5 Y/G
  • 4,772 Receiving Yards, 17 TD's, 7.6 YPR

Smith:
  • 18,355 Rush Yards, 164 TD's, 4.2 YPC, 81.2 Y/G
  • 3,224 Receiving Yards, 11 TD's, 6.3 YPR

Now factor in that Emmitt was good for 12-13 seasons, and LT was only good for 9 seasons. Factor in that Emmitt led his team to 3 SBs, and was a clutch performer. I don't think they are in the same conversation. In their elite primes they were pretty comparable, but career-wise it's not even close.
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But according to your logic, didn't the O-line lead the team to 3 SBs?

For LT is was all line, for Emmitt it was all Emmitt....got it.
 
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Jestes311 said:
But according to your logic, didn't the O-line lead the team to 3 SBs?

For LT is was all line, for Emmitt it was all Emmitt....got it.
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Why must you put words in my mouth? That wouldn't be following my logic.

Data shows that Emmitt's line was overrated, and LT's line was underrated. In both cases the RB is better than any of the linemen, IMO. In both cases great running backs benefited from very good lines. I never said it was all Emmitt, I just said his line gets too much credit. I never said it was all the line, I just said that LT gets too much credit.
 
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