L'ville to play in sugar bowl....

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If we hire Strong I'd still rather him not coach that game. May sound punkish but we gain nothing and could lose some if he got drubbed ie Steele in the bowl last year.
 
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reeceb73 said:
FL is a very good team and Louisville hasn't beaten anyone this year. Louisville lost to two very mediocre teams and doesn't belong in a bowl against FL.

The only chance they have, is FL got screwed with this matchup and may not be motivated to play.
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Everyone and their momma can say we don't belong, I can accept that, but we're there and no one can change that fact. The Florida Gators are beatable, and there's no doubt in my mind that if the 'Ville plays up to their potential then this game will be close. If we don't show up on the other hand - :yikes: - It will get ugly, quick!
 
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JoseDaMofo said:
To merely look at a team's record and deem them not beatable is naivete. If you'll notice, almost every "lesser" opponent they've faced this year they've played terribly. In fact, precedence shows that the lower the perceived quality of the team is, the more likely UF is to play poorly -- making them more susceptible to losing.
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I didn't say they were not beatable. I was saying they are not likely to lose, and based on the body of work of Louisville vs the body of work of FL, its not close.

Here is what FL did:

Bowling Green W27-14
Texas A&M W20-17
#23 Tennessee W37-20
Kentucky W38-0
#4 LSU W14-6
Vanderbilt W31-17
#7 South Carolina W44 - 11
#10 Georgia L17-9
Missouri W14-7
LA-Lafayette W27-20
Jacksonville St W23-0
#10 Florida St W37-26

There are a few exceptions, but they didn't play down to their competition (and i watched several of these games, so this isn't just based on final score). Driskel when healthy got better each game. They took care of a lot of good teams and struggled against a few. This is a very difficult schedule, and on paper they should roll against Louisville if they are motivated to play in this terrible bowl matchup.
 
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Meadows said:
Everyone and their momma can say we don't belong, I can accept that, but we're there and no one can change that fact. The Florida Gators are beatable, and there's no doubt in my mind that if the 'Ville plays up to their potential then this game will be close. If we don't show up on the other hand - :yikes: - It will get ugly, quick!
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I agree completely with you. I don't like the way bowl matchups are done, but this is the system.
 
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reeceb73 said:
I didn't say they were not beatable. I was saying they are not likely to lose, and based on the body of work of Louisville vs the body of work of FL, its not close.

Here is what FL did:

Bowling Green W27-14
Texas A&M W20-17
#23 Tennessee W37-20
Kentucky W38-0
#4 LSU W14-6
Vanderbilt W31-17
#7 South Carolina W44 - 11
#10 Georgia L17-9
Missouri W14-7
LA-Lafayette W27-20
Jacksonville St W23-0
#10 Florida St W37-26

There are a few exceptions, but they didn't play down to their competition (and i watched several of these games, so this isn't just based on final score). Driskel when healthy got better each game. They took care of a lot of good teams and struggled against a few. This is a very difficult schedule, and on paper they should roll against Louisville if they are motivated to play in this terrible bowl matchup.
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So basically they played down their opponents
 
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Spawn said:
OK, so Louisville plays FL in Sugar Bowl? Wow, talk about bad luck for Strong. FL will destroy Louisville.

Thanks for info, I didn't see selection show.
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If Strong comes to UT he will have the distinction of being one of the first coaches in history to lose to Florida Twice in 10 months with two different teams.

IMHO.. DO NOT HIRE STRONG!!!
 
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Does anyone know what process must be gone through to remove the big east from an automatic BCS bid. No way this two-bit conference deserves it.
 
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Doolittle 1720 said:
Does anyone know what process must be gone through to remove the big east from an automatic BCS bid. No way this two-bit conference deserves it.
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I might actually feel sorry for Florida in this case...well not really! :birgits_giggle:

However, Florida is in a no-win situation here. If they play well, they "were only playing a team that shouldn't be there". If they play poorly it was because they felt cheated and weren't even motivated to play.
 
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JimVol said:
If Strong comes to UT he will have the distinction of being one of the first coaches in history to lose to Florida Twice in 10 months with two different teams.

IMHO.. DO NOT HIRE STRONG!!!
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Imo..Hire Strong. If we hire him he likely wont be coaching in that game.
 
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volquest86 said:
If we were gonna offer strong does this deter him from leaving that program??? I mean he's playing against Florida of all teams and has a slim chance but still a chance of knockin em off! If he wins, would he stay???
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Doubtful, if he's interested he'll take the job, if he wants to coach the bowl game then I would imagine they'll let him do it. I don't really see it being a hurdle.
 
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reeceb73 said:
I didn't say they were not beatable. I was saying they are not likely to lose, and based on the body of work of Louisville vs the body of work of FL, its not close.

Here is what FL did:

Bowling Green W27-14
Texas A&M W20-17
#23 Tennessee W37-20
Kentucky W38-0
#4 LSU W14-6
Vanderbilt W31-17
#7 South Carolina W44 - 11
#10 Georgia L17-9
Missouri W14-7
LA-Lafayette W27-20
Jacksonville St W23-0
#10 Florida St W37-26

There are a few exceptions, but they didn't play down to their competition (and i watched several of these games, so this isn't just based on final score). Driskel when healthy got better each game. They took care of a lot of good teams and struggled against a few. This is a very difficult schedule, and on paper they should roll against Louisville if they are motivated to play in this terrible bowl matchup.
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spot on assessment. hopefully the SEC pride will keep them motivated. They are a pretty good team, would have liked seeing them play someone from the Big 10
 
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#39
Bears repeating. I do not want Strong as our coach. don't discount the terrible record (24 - 15) over 3 years in a horrible Big East.

You say he did that with big east talent on his team? I say if you are a great coach you will get great talent.

You said he has coached great? I say Petersen has coached great with Boise talent against a weak conference and beaten big teams (Oklahoma)

No to Strong. We don't need another Dooley or a slight improvement over Dooley.
 
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NickZ4UT said:
Doubtful, if he's interested he'll take the job, if he wants to coach the bowl game then I would imagine they'll let him do it. I don't really see it being a hurdle.
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Even though I don't feel that recruiting will get much better, it would be insane to allow that to happen. However UT does not have a long record of sanity, so who knows.
 
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Batman33 said:
I might actually feel sorry for Florida in this case...well not really! :birgits_giggle:

However, Florida is in a no-win situation here. If they play well, they "were only playing a team that shouldn't be there". If they play poorly it was because they felt cheated and weren't even motivated to play.
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I guess I've been out of the loop but I'm sitting here trying to figure out why Florida would feel cheated about playing in the best possible bowl they were looking at? I'm thinking that UGA is the one that probably feels cheated. What am I missing?
 
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RTGA said:
I guess I've been out of the loop but I'm sitting here trying to figure out why Florida would feel cheated about playing in the best possible bowl they were looking at? I'm thinking that UGA is the one that probably feels cheated. What am I missing?
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I think FL feels cheated as they are a top 3 team and are playing an unranked Big East Team.

They will crush Louisville and was hopeing for a game against a top tier opponent.
 
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RTGA said:
I guess I've been out of the loop but I'm sitting here trying to figure out why Florida would feel cheated about playing in the best possible bowl they were looking at? I'm thinking that UGA is the one that probably feels cheated. What am I missing?
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From a competitive view, big teams want to "play up", like AAU kids in basketball always want to "play up" for there is little merit in playing inferior teams. Louisville from the Big East is not a team a good team can "get up" to play. It takes the motivation away. What have you done if you cream them? Or, if I were driving a rocket fuel dragster in one lane and looked in the other lane and saw a 1976 Pinto, I am not going to spend a lot of high octane fuel.

Florida State having to play Northern Illinois is in the same boat...sad.
 
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They were down 17-6 and won 21-17 over a Southern Miss team that finished the season without a win.

I hope the beat the Gators but I am not seeing it.
 
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Doolittle 1720 said:
Even though I don't feel that recruiting will get much better, it would be insane to allow that to happen. However UT does not have a long record of sanity, so who knows.
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Oh I'm sure if he took the job we wouldn't want him coaching the bowl game just to get him on the recruiting trail sooner but as I understand it we are about to head into a recruiting dead period anyway. I thinkg Strong has the most potential out of any head coach who's name has been tossed around here and yes I am including Gruden in that statement. The guy is a coach which is what we need, he has strong ties to the SEC, he know what it takes to compete in the SEC and he knows how to recruit in the SEC. I've been big on the guy from the very start, even during Grudenmania. He and Mike Gundy are the two coaches I've thought would help turn us around the quickest.
 
#46
#46
if florida shows up to play (and i expect they will), they will beat louisville senseless
 
#47
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99gator said:
if florida shows up to play (and i expect they will), they will beat louisville senseless
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worries me a bit...I don't know if they will take it seriously. To Louisville this is their "Rocky" moment. For Florida this is Apolo Creed in Rocky I.
 
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99gator said:
if florida shows up to play (and i expect they will), they will beat louisville senseless
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No one is giving us a chance. That is expected coming from a Florida fan, of course. :clap:

I love being the underdog! I love upsets! Louisville will give Florida a run for their money. This will be a Bowl game worth watching! :popcorn:
 
#50
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Meadows said:
No one is giving us a chance. That is expected coming from a Florida fan, of course. :clap:

I love being the underdog! I love upsets! Louisville will give Florida a run for their money. This will be a Bowl game worth watching! :popcorn:
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I saw Florida is a 14 point favorite over Louisville. The only bowl game with a greater point favorite is Oklahoma State over Purdue. Interesting.
 
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