Marco Rubio - Democrats want to manage American decline

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norrislakevol said:
I guess that everyone that 90 percent of the people that lived in this country pre 1965 were bad people because they believed the same. All bad people. You know, Muslims don't believe in that either. Most Africans do not either. All bad people I guess.....right?
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Regardless of what they believed, personally I’d prefer not to go back to pre-1965 America.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
And thats a good thing? Whats wrong with being accepting of everyone?
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You basically called Haitians bad people because they have traditional values. Most Africans do too. I was also pointing out that Most people in this country had traditional values not that long ago. Having traditional values does not make these people bad people like you were insinuating.
 
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norrislakevol said:
You basically called Haitians bad people because they have traditional values. Most Africans do too. I was also pointing out that Most people in this country had traditional values not that long ago. Having traditional values does not make these people bad people like you were insinuating.
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I never said that. But yeah, if having "traditional values" means you hate gay people, I would say those are bad people.
 
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norrislakevol said:
You basically called Haitians bad people because they have traditional values. Most Africans do too. I was also pointing out that Most people in this country had traditional values not that long ago. Having traditional values does not make these people bad people like you were insinuating.
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Not too long ago traditional values also meant things like separate schools and no interracial marriage. Were those also good people? They phrase basically means "you aren't like us and I don't like it"
 
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utvolpj said:
Not too long ago traditional values also meant things like separate schools and no interracial marriage. Were those also good people? They phrase basically means "you aren't like us and I don't like it"
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I get what you are saying, I do. There are still people that think it's not right to date/marry outside their race....though those numbers are dwindling. My nephew, who is white prefers to date black girls. I have no problem with that and have dated outside my race, but the families of a couple of the black girls have had a problem with that. They have referred to him as the "wrong color". Do I think they are bad people for believing that way? Nope. Do I think that my 93 year old grandmother is a bad person for believing the same? Nope.
 
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utvolpj said:
Not too long ago traditional values also meant things like separate schools and no interracial marriage. Were those also good people? They phrase basically means "you aren't like us and I don't like it"
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We talking Democrat George Wallace or Joe Biden bussing Kamala? Current President used the word “racial jungle” to protect his kids schooling.
 
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Some comments by readers of the original Rubio interview that hit home. I will post more interesting ones later.



When people who have fled to the United States to escape oppressive, dictatorial regimes warn that America is beginning to resemble those other countries, people should open their eyes and pay attention to what's happening to America. You're not going to like what's coming, no matter what your politics. It's a bleak world.

True. But one thing no other nations in the world had, which is the 2nd Amendment, and it will be applied in full force, if necessary.

Some of the countries taken over by dictators, in particular Venezuela had the equivalent of 2A and had it taken away after their Supreme Court was packed. So far the left is following the Venezuela model.

And do you wonder why the democrats are trying so hard to destroy the 2nd Amendment? But even more than the 2nd Amendment is the American resolve. We won't throw away the sacrifices men and women have made to keep America the land of the brave and the home of the free.

I wonder what the ratio is of people leave South America to North America and vice versa. Of the few people I've met that came here legally (although I didn't verify that) from Venezuela, they think we're crazy to ever want bigger government or anything that resembles Socialism which becomes Communism. All promises are empty and its clear to them the Democrats are Communists. Nothing gets more equal, you get promised everything, taxed to death for nothing and there is no sizable middle class, only super elites and the poor. America is in big trouble with this radical admin of well known racists running the show.

Rubio has called it. I've been saying this for a couple of years now. The school board meetings were the very, very tip of the iceberg of the federal government setting their sights on everyday Americans. Either we defend Trump, and others, now or who will be left to defend you or I? How many of us have sat on our hands as they have arrested people like Flynn, Bannon or Manafort? You see what has happened to them? Do you think you or I even have a chance? Ask the folks sitting in jail for nearly two years for walking into the capitol building what our chances are.

My guess, if they do a similar raid in the future (because they are obviously going to get away with this), is in Texas against our State Reps in the State Legislature or against Governor Abbott. I have come to this conclusion because the DOJ is currently investigating Texas over "Civil Rights Violations" related to Operation Lone Star. That could be their way of taking down the operation and opening the border completely.

I am not surprised at anything the FBI does these days. They are nothing more than a corrupt political arm of the Justice Department. I am yet to see nor hear any evidence that Trump was directly involved in the January 6 insurrection. The people who need to be punished are facing their fate in the federal courts. This is nothing more than political theater in an attempt to prevent Trump from seeking a second term as president and to make Biden look like he is actually doing something for the nation.

“Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence.” Thomas Jefferson
 
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Majors said:
We talking Democrat George Wallace or Joe Biden bussing Kamala? Current President used the word “racial jungle” to protect his kids schooling.
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Label them dems if it makes you feel better but most of those chanting traditional values today would have been on the wrong side of the march 60yrs ago
 
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utvolpj said:
Label them dems if it makes you feel better but most of those chanting traditional values today would have been on the wrong side of the march 60yrs ago
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I don’t label them, those chose that side in regards to values and morals. I was just wanting to know how far back your example went back.
 
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Majors said:
I don’t label them, those chose that side in regards to values and morals. I was just wanting to know how far back your example went back.
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You need and want labels because it makes you feel better about your positions. It's easy to tell how far my example went back. Many on the board watched it happen
 
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utvolpj said:
You need and want labels because it makes you feel better about your positions. It's easy to tell how far my example went back. Many on the board watched it happen
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Actually I don’t, I’m not a fan of labels because it means you are defaulted to certain sides set by others. I’m more of common sense kind of guy with a splash pro-ZFG in regards to others happiness. But not afraid to tap in on calling others hypocrisy out kind of guy/or label.
 
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If you are not going to church this morning, then don't miss Maria Bartiromo's on FoxNews Sunday Morning Futures at 10 EST. She is going to cover the raid, China, and the democrats huge spending package with experts.
 
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There are catastrophes and calamities, and then there’s what’s happening in the United Kingdom’s energy market. Reports this week point to spiraling costs for households and businesses this winter, pushing mil-lions of Britons closer to poverty. It’s a steep price for climate alarmism.
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This is where they want to take us.

Opinion | Britain’s Net Zero Lesson for the U.S.
 
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The American Decline - Devin Nunez laying out the timeline like I haven't heard it before dating back to Obama Administration. Common links Susan Rice, Jake Sullivan, Lisa Monaco, etc. These are high level bureaucrats in the Biden Administration that work behind the scenes answering to no one.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Some comments by readers of the original Rubio interview that hit home. I will post more interesting ones later.



When people who have fled to the United States to escape oppressive, dictatorial regimes warn that America is beginning to resemble those other countries, people should open their eyes and pay attention to what's happening to America. You're not going to like what's coming, no matter what your politics. It's a bleak world.

True. But one thing no other nations in the world had, which is the 2nd Amendment, and it will be applied in full force, if necessary.

Some of the countries taken over by dictators, in particular Venezuela had the equivalent of 2A and had it taken away after their Supreme Court was packed. So far the left is following the Venezuela model.

And do you wonder why the democrats are trying so hard to destroy the 2nd Amendment? But even more than the 2nd Amendment is the American resolve. We won't throw away the sacrifices men and women have made to keep America the land of the brave and the home of the free.

I wonder what the ratio is of people leave South America to North America and vice versa. Of the few people I've met that came here legally (although I didn't verify that) from Venezuela, they think we're crazy to ever want bigger government or anything that resembles Socialism which becomes Communism. All promises are empty and its clear to them the Democrats are Communists. Nothing gets more equal, you get promised everything, taxed to death for nothing and there is no sizable middle class, only super elites and the poor. America is in big trouble with this radical admin of well known racists running the show.

Rubio has called it. I've been saying this for a couple of years now. The school board meetings were the very, very tip of the iceberg of the federal government setting their sights on everyday Americans. Either we defend Trump, and others, now or who will be left to defend you or I? How many of us have sat on our hands as they have arrested people like Flynn, Bannon or Manafort? You see what has happened to them? Do you think you or I even have a chance? Ask the folks sitting in jail for nearly two years for walking into the capitol building what our chances are.

My guess, if they do a similar raid in the future (because they are obviously going to get away with this), is in Texas against our State Reps in the State Legislature or against Governor Abbott. I have come to this conclusion because the DOJ is currently investigating Texas over "Civil Rights Violations" related to Operation Lone Star. That could be their way of taking down the operation and opening the border completely.

I am not surprised at anything the FBI does these days. They are nothing more than a corrupt political arm of the Justice Department. I am yet to see nor hear any evidence that Trump was directly involved in the January 6 insurrection. The people who need to be punished are facing their fate in the federal courts. This is nothing more than political theater in an attempt to prevent Trump from seeking a second term as president and to make Biden look like he is actually doing something for the nation.

“Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence.” Thomas Jefferson
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I have often though of this. I think it may take something like a state or local government to arrest the members of the FBI who participate in such raids or arrests that are unjust and ignore any calls from a federal judge or the DOJ to immediately release them. If this happens a couple of times then the FBI and DOJ may think twice.
 
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Swalwell tells Trump fans to avoid 'wreckage' after FBI raid, gets hit for alleged romance with Chinese spy

Swalwell declared things were 'getting ugly' for Trump, who he claimed 'stole Top Secret documents

On Friday, Congressman Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., tweeted a not-so-subtle threat to people still supportive of former President Donald Trump after the FBI raided Trump's Mar-a-Lago home to allegedly recover classified documents he was not authorized to have.

Swalwell tells Trump fans to avoid 'wreckage' after FBI raid, gets hit for alleged romance with Chinese spy
 
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From the comments:



DeplorableGator
23h ago

I think Swalwell just confirmed what Senator Marco Rubio warned us about. Namely, that the Deep State will be targeting Trump supporters next. Is this a dream -- are we in Germany in 1933? Only difference now is the government has far more sophisticated tools and information at its disposal via Social Media and the internet to identify and track down Republicans and Conservatives. Much of this is enabled by the Patriot Act. Senator Rand Paul was right all along. The government IS ready to use this data for nefarious purposes against its citizens.


bosshoggjd
23h ago

Unfortunately you're 100% right on the money. The only hope is Trump or Desantis abolishes all of the 3-letter agencies in 2024, which means the GOP needs to be working up exactly how to do that right NOW, so it's ready to go in 2024, which I'm sure they're not.

iwantaschrubbery
23h ago

We Live in Dangerous Times Where Our Freedom and Democracy is at Risk from Democrats. The Democrats have changed us into a Banana Republic where the ruling party uses the secret police to take out opponents The Mullahs, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Chavez and Pol Pot all used the state secret police against political opponents. Americans used to agree that was horrific but no longer the Democrats find it acceptable. The Democrats have destroyed our Democracy and are tying to implement a Leftist Dictatorship where no opposition is tolerated.


allamgirl
23h ago

Rep. Swalwell's tweet is a clear violation of 18 US 594 Intimidation of Voters; Whoever intimidates, threatens, coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, at any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing such candidate, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
 
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