Martin believes we can make it...

#27
#27
calban said:
So you're saying, if we had 15 losses last year (losses to COC and Oakland) and an RPI of 46 instead of 41 we wouldn't have gotten in?
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I'm not saying anything about last year. I'm saying that this team isn't getting in with 15 losses this year and 14 would be pushing it.
 
#29
#29
Spartacavolus said:
I'm not saying anything about last year. I'm saying that this team isn't getting in with 15 losses this year and 14 would be pushing it.
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That was just a question?
But, actually I think you're right.
Went back and looked at the records of teams last year in the dance.
14 seemed to be the limit unless you won a conference tourney.
I don't think we'll get in with 15 losses either.
 
#30
#30
The SEC will get more teams in this season than last. 14 losses and we are still in with a couple SEC tourney wins IMO
 
#31
#31
calban said:
That was just a question?
But, actually I think you're right.
Went back and looked at the records of teams last year in the dance.
14 seemed to be the limit unless you won a conference tourney.
I don't think we'll get in with 15 losses either.
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I was just answering the question about last year because it really didn't matter when looking at this year. That being said, you looked and didn't see any at large's with that many l's. The committee will take the 15 losses more into account than they will the rpi in that situation.
I'd be interested to see the number of 15 loss at large teams over the years.
 
#32
#32
Spartacavolus said:
I was just answering the question about last year because it really didn't matter when looking at this year. That being said, you looked and didn't see any at large's with that many l's. The committee will take the 15 losses more into account than they will the rpi in that situation.
I'd be interested to see the number of 15 loss at large teams over the years.
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I looked at the RPIs and records on this link.
NCAA Basketball Power Ratings - NCAA BB Team Overall RPI Rating

then looked at the 2011 NCAA bracket.
14 seemed to be the magic number, but admittedly it was a pretty quick look.

i'd be interested to see how many 15 loss teams have gotten in also.
 
#33
#33
calban said:
I looked at the RPIs and records on this link.
NCAA Basketball Power Ratings - NCAA BB Team Overall RPI Rating

then looked at the 2011 NCAA bracket.
14 seemed to be the magic number, but admittedly it was a pretty quick look.

i'd be interested to see how many 15 loss teams have gotten in also.
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i went back 12 years and i couldnt find a 15 loss team that made it as an at large. i think that is pretty true with the chances for this team as well, you can lose 1 the remaining reg. season but not 2, thats pretty true. i still say if we go 5-1 and finish 10-6 in conference, and probably 3rd or 4th in sec, we get a bye and 2 wins would get us in the dance IMO.

in all honesty we would benefit from vandy winining all their games, except vs us and the same for florida and miss st. WE DO NOT WANT THE BYE. if we get the bye and only win 1 game, its most likely our rpi just wont be high enough at 18-14, we'd have to win 2. we benefit much more from getting to play the first day, and hopefully put together 3 wins and end up 20-14.

JMHO
 
#35
#35
Velo Vol said:
Why?
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main reason is that big east set a record with 11 last year, they most likely are headed for 8 this year, so thats 3 more available than there were last year.

obviously this can change, and also if more conference teams win their conference tournament and get the auto that wouldnt have gotten in it will reduce the number of at large available.

imo i would be surprised not to see atleast 6 SEC teams in the ncaa tournament. they could get more than that, but they had 5 last year, i really think this year we will see atleast 6. unless of course like i mentioned a lot of the at large bids get taken up when teams who wouldnt have gotten in win their conference tourney and get in as the auto bid and are forced to use the at large on another team.
 
#36
#36
The longshot is the Vols staying consistent enough to win 5 or 6 more games before the SECT.
 
#37
#37
bleedingTNorange said:
i went back 12 years and i couldnt find a 15 loss team that made it as an at large. i think that is pretty true with the chances for this team as well, you can lose 1 the remaining reg. season but not 2, thats pretty true. i still say if we go 5-1 and finish 10-6 in conference, and probably 3rd or 4th in sec, we get a bye and 2 wins would get us in the dance IMO.

in all honesty we would benefit from vandy winining all their games, except vs us and the same for florida and miss st. WE DO NOT WANT THE BYE. if we get the bye and only win 1 game, its most likely our rpi just wont be high enough at 18-14, we'd have to win 2. we benefit much more from getting to play the first day, and hopefully put together 3 wins and end up 20-14.

JMHO
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UGA once got in with an overall record that was just 1-2 games over .500, because they had the #1 SOS.
 
#40
#40
Found it:

1991 Georgia was 15-14(7-9) and made it in as an 11. Stil holds to the point though that nobody can find a 15 loss team that made it in as an at large.



We don't hold the #1 SOS anyways so kind of a moot point anyway I suppose.
 
#41
#41
Win 5-out-of-6 + 2 wins in the SEC Tournament and the Vols have a good shot of getting into the NCAA. Their final 10 game record would be 8-2 and the estimated RPI would be 41. Out of the 20 wins in this scenario (19 if you don't count Chaminade) 12 of them would be since Stokes joined the team.
 
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