Marvelous SEC Refs

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Thunder Good-Oil

Thunder Good-Oil

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Yes. I know that TN has to make shots to win games. But right now it feels like the refs TOOK AWAY a second SEC regular season championship in 4 years.

Anthony Jordan:

Old photo emerges of Anthony Jordan, referee in LSU-Tennessee game, holding Tigers shirt

Tennessee vs. LSU - Game Summary - February 23, 2019 - ESPN
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I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a worse call than the Arkansas running out of bounds 3 steps and then throwing the ball off of TN.

Jimmy's blog: Refs take 'charge' as Vols fall at Arkansas
 
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With a conference so flush with cash and successful programs in all sports, schools from other conferences are beating the door down to get in, you would think member institutions and their boosters and fans would expect more from the conference and its officiating crews in terms of consistency, accuracy and leadership in the officiating industry across the country, but no, we get this on the cheap crap, allowing referees to call games in other conferences, cheapening and cheating what should be an integral part of the leading collegiate conference in America.
 
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All Refs need to Schooled to one Standard Level of Officiating, Tested, and Certified by the SEC.
Performance Reviews and Report Cards after each game with potential fines, corrective Measures and suspensions.
Calls are going to be missed both ways, but repetitive in nature during a game is a blatant Deficiency and need some sort of corrective action.
Barnes probably let the Refs know his concerns before the game and they bowed up and thought under their breathe that they will show you....

Would be interesting to see how many these Refs have called charges this year and how many times they have called Arkansas games.
 
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Until refs are required to answer to the press post-game like players, nothing will change. Nothing. It’s a simple fix that commissioners across the sport are too cowardly to implement.

If an 18-year old kid has to answer questions about his own flaws and how his performance may have lost a game, I see no reason why grown men shouldn’t be held to the same standard.
 
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Every charge call is bogus if the defender isn’t already planted/rooted in his spot. An offensive player has just as much right to the rim as a defender does to guard it. If you’re not a vertical tree as the offensive player drives in then it should be a block. It should be that F&€#ing simple of a call. Williams was never once in position to take an official charge. He was sliding in or leaning into Chandler on every one of those calls.

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Referees: Tony Greene, K.B. Burdett, Vladimir Voyard-Tadal

Which Referee called All the charges? Which Ref called the out of Bounds?
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Tony Green called every charge. I think literally.
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I don’t know if he called every single one, but he was the one that called the 4 most blatantly incorrect ones. Dane Bradshaw showed too much restraint IMO. It’s one of the few times I wished Jay Bilas was calling our game. He would have cussed Tony Greene out on air by the 2nd one.
 
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Since the NCAA and conferences can’t seem to staff competent officials they really need to go ahead and give players a 6th foul. The refs are having way too much impact on game outcomes with their subjective whistles. A couple of questionable foul calls completely disrupted TN’s rotation for the entire game.

Also, a foul should be a foul wherever it occurs. I’m not aware of a rule that a foul is one thing when a guard is at the rim and another when on the perimeter.

Some officiating seems to be more about creating exciting finishes for TV ratings.
 
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I don’t have much to add other than fully agreeing with Hyams’ take. Hopefully we get good refs in March Madness or their badness is biased towards us

Also, to Arkansas fans who were mad about Notae getting 5, I’m sorry he got a few bad calls too. At least you didn’t lose all 3 of your best players to foul trouble for over half of the game with all of them on Chandler and half of them on the others being questionable at best
 
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Chandler having 4 charges almost has to be a record in D-1. That is insane. And were all 4 called by Greene? If yes, that should lead to an investigation. It almost has the appearance of criminal gambling involvement. Especially if he also called the not out of bounds running along the baseline toss back into play call.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Yes. I know that TN has to make shots to wins games. But right now it feels like the refs TOOK AWAY a second SEC regular season championship in 4 years.

Anthony Jordan:

Old photo emerges of Anthony Jordan, referee in LSU-Tennessee game, holding Tigers shirt

Tennessee vs. LSU - Game Summary - February 23, 2019 - ESPN
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I don’t know if I’ve ever seen as worse call than the Arkansas running out of bounds 3 steps and then throwing the ball off of TN.

Jimmy's blog: Refs take 'charge' as Vols fall at Arkansas
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LOL. Please. Yes, the refs were atrocious… but 2nd phantom SEC “stolen” … wow
 
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I have felt, for years, a lot of the officials in the SEC are either betting the games (through a proxy) or employed by someone who is betting.
I am not saying they care about the outcome, but sure will make calls either way to cover the spread. Not just talking UT games here.
 
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You know things were bad when Hyams dedicates an entire blog to it. He normally downplays anyone complaining about officials. In the NFL officials have to face questions from the media at the end of the game. That should happen in college sports as well. The SEC Officiating twitter account hasn't even been used since football season. It should be explaining garbage like the out of bounds play at minimum. The NBA challenge system needs to be in place and for goodness sakes, when someone is running 4 feet out of bounds and throws the ball back in off a player, it should be reviewable.
 
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You cannot blame the bad shooting percentages in yesterday's loss on the referees.

Tennessee has played the three best defenses in the country in Arkansas, Texas and Texas Tech this season and have scored less than 55 points in all three losses.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
You cannot blame the bad shooting percentages in yesterday's loss on the referees.

Tennessee has played the three best defenses in the country in Arkansas, Texas and Texas Tech this season and have scored less than 55 points in all three losses.
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It’s relevant. When your shooters are sent to the bench before getting into the game flow and are at risk of being whistled for a charge every time they drive toward the rim it affects shooting.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
You cannot blame the bad shooting percentages in yesterday's loss on the referees.

Tennessee has played the three best defenses in the country in Arkansas, Texas and Texas Tech this season and have scored less than 55 points in all three losses.
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It changed the entire way we approached offense, Barnes and the players said as much. It can't be ignored as a factor in how things played out.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
You cannot blame the bad shooting percentages in yesterday's loss on the referees.

Tennessee has played the three best defenses in the country in Arkansas, Texas and Texas Tech this season and have scored less than 55 points in all three losses.
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You can definitely lay some of the blame on them
 
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kyvol98 said:
I have felt, for years, a lot of the officials in the SEC are either betting the games (through a proxy) or employed by someone who is betting.
I am not saying they care about the outcome, but sure will make calls either way to cover the spread. Not just talking UT games here.
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Yeah I said it during the football season too. It’s just unfathomable to me that someone can be so routinely bad at their job. Just doesn’t make sense.
 
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golfballs said:
Yeah I said it during the football season too. It’s just unfathomable to me that someone can be so routinely bad at their job. Just doesn’t make sense.
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I don’t know - I worked with a few folks who were never one single day good at their job. They however weren’t on TV displaying their ineptness for all to see.
 
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