Marvin Harrison -vs- Randy Moss

#32
#32
volfanjustin said:
I just don't want someone who is a distraction. The talent level is not really close. Harrison was a better route runner though.
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Sane argument, but I think there is a case to be made that Moss is clearly the most talented WR of all-time. The question is who was better, and there's really no comparison.

If the question was who you'd rather have on your team at the prime of their careers, then the gap starts to narrow some, because Moss definitely wasn't known for always giving 100% effort. I'd still rather take him, though, just because having that once in a lifetime type of deep threat can single-handedly make any offense better.
 
#33
#33
volfanjustin said:
I just don't want someone who is a distraction. The talent level is not really close. Harrison was a better route runner though.
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Yeah, it will really be a shame when his HoF class is a bust, all because he distracts them all from hosting their luncheons and playing bingo.
 
#35
#35
milohimself said:
Sane argument, but I think there is a case to be made that Moss is clearly the most talented WR of all-time. The question is who was better, and there's really no comparison.

If the question was who you'd rather have on your team at the prime of their careers, then the gap starts to narrow some, because Moss definitely wasn't known for always giving 100% effort. I'd still rather take him, though, just because having that once in a lifetime type of deep threat can single-handedly make any offense better.
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I agree, Moss is likely the most talented ever but had some issues. On talent only I would take Moss every single time, but given everything we know about both I would take Harrison and be completely satisfied. On the other hand, I can't help but wonder if Moss would have had the issues he did if he could have had Peyton or Brady his whole career.
 
#37
#37
justingroves said:
I don't think Moss and Manning would have ever made it a season without a falling out.
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I think it's normal and I don't see a problem with players having a falling out as long as they keep it in house and don't take it public. Have you ever seen that segment on Peyton and Saturday during the Rams game from the Super Bowl year? (I believe that's when it happened)
 
#38
#38
Moss = more talent by a big margin. Harrison had better hands, ran better routes and wasn't a distraction. Better athlete, Moss. Better at doing the overall job he was paid to do, Harrison.
 
#39
#39
justingroves said:
I don't think Moss and Manning would have ever made it a season without a falling out.
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Why? Reggie Wayne got physical with Peyton on the sideline once upon a time and it was nothing more than a minor hiccup. If Manning's pride can swallow basically a slap to the face on national TV, I think he can handle Randy Moss.
 
#40
#40
nbakerld said:
Why? Reggie Wayne got physical with Peyton on the sideline once upon a time and it was nothing more than a minor hiccup. If Manning's pride can swallow basically a slap to the face on national TV, I think he can handle Randy Moss.
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Randy's biggest strength was just flat out outrunning people. He did what he did on simply being the best athlete on the field the majority of the time.

Peyton is one of the most ridiculously detail oriented players around.
 
#41
#41
volfanjustin said:
I think it's normal and I don't see a problem with players having a falling out as long as they keep it in house and don't take it public. Have you ever seen that segment on Peyton and Saturday during the Rams game from the Super Bowl year? (I believe that's when it happened)
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Oh yeah but Moss would be running streaks yelling for the ball when he's supposed to be running the crossing route to clear out the safety.
 
#42
#42
nbakerld said:
Why? Reggie Wayne got physical with Peyton on the sideline once upon a time and it was nothing more than a minor hiccup. If Manning's pride can swallow basically a slap to the face on national TV, I think he can handle Randy Moss.
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Is this on youtube? Link?
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#43
#43
Billy Costigan said:
Is this on youtube? Link?
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Unfortunately I can't find it anywhere. Google can only seem to find "Manning and Wayne will sign as packaged deal" related articles. It was pre-"everything goes on youtube" era. It was probably like 2005.
 
#44
#44
nbakerld said:
Unfortunately I can't find it anywhere. Google can only seem to find "Manning and Wayne will sign as packaged deal" related articles. It was pre-"everything goes on youtube" era. It was probably like 2005.
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Oh ok. Thanks for checking. So did Wayne slap him or what exactly happened?
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#45
#45
nbakerld said:
Unfortunately I can't find it anywhere. Google can only seem to find "Manning and Wayne will sign as packaged deal" related articles. It was pre-"everything goes on youtube" era. It was probably like 2005.
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And it was intense/hilarious.
 
#46
#46
Billy Costigan said:
Oh ok. Thanks for checking. So did Wayne slap him or what exactly happened?
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Way I remember it... They didn't score in the red zone, got stopped down close to the goal line... Saturday came off the field pissed off that Manning had checked out of run plays, started yelling "We gotta run the ******* ball down there man." etc.etc.etc.

Manning wasn't happy. At... all. And ran over and said something to the effect of "You're the center, snap me the f****** ball, that's your job. My job is to call the ******* plays."
 
#47
#47
Billy Costigan said:
Oh ok. Thanks for checking. So did Wayne slap him or what exactly happened?
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They were on the sideline and Manning was in his face sorta getting onto him about something. Wayne quickly became disgruntled and basically half-slapped/half-pushed Manning's face out of his. It wasn't violent per se, but very disrespectful. They didn't allow the media to run with it at all. They quickly squashed it and it was business as usual.
 
#48
#48
Dbake005 said:
Way I remember it... They didn't score in the red zone, got stopped down close to the goal line... Saturday came off the field pissed off that Manning had checked out of run plays, started yelling "We gotta run the ******* ball down there man." etc.etc.etc.

Manning wasn't happy. At... all. And ran over and said something to the effect of "You're the center, snap me the f****** ball, that's your job. My job is to call the ******* plays."
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I think we are talking about 2 different incidents.
 
#50
#50
nbakerld said:
They were on the sideline and Manning was in his face sorta getting onto him about something. Wayne quickly became disgruntled and basically half-slapped/half-pushed Manning's face out of his. It wasn't violent per se, but very disrespectful. They didn't allow the media to run with it at all. They quickly squashed it and it was business as usual.
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I think whoever they were playing scored with just a couple of seconds left and Peyton was trying to gather all the receivers and Wayne was slow getting over so Peyton probably said something to him about getting over there and Wayne was not happy about it.
 
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