Matt Simms

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Weee'rre Baaccckk

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Not sure if this is the proper board, but was just curious what this guys been up to. Last I heard he was throwing footballs into trash cans in the NFL. An update on his current situation? Seeing as though he can throw into garbage cans, I assumed he might at least have gotten some garbage time in a game or 2
 
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Weee'rre Baaccckk said:
Not sure if this is the proper board, but was just curious what this guys been up to. Last I heard he was throwing footballs into trash cans in the NFL. An update on his current situation? Seeing as though he can throw into garbage cans, I assumed he might at least have gotten some garbage time in a game or 2
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If memory serves I think the Jets signed him to the practice squad but he didn't last that long.
 
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Weee'rre Baaccckk said:
Not sure if this is the proper board, but was just curious what this guys been up to. Last I heard he was throwing footballs into trash cans in the NFL. An update on his current situation? Seeing as though he can throw into garbage cans, I assumed he might at least have gotten some garbage time in a game or 2
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Well say what you want but the kid is tough. I haven't seen Bray do any better against top SEC teams. At least he hit the trash cans and not hit cars in the parking lot.:eek:lol:
 
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rickyyrs said:
Well say what you want but the kid is tough. I haven't seen Bray do any better against top SEC teams. At least he hit the trash cans and not hit cars in the parking lot.:eek:lol:
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Seriously? Are uga and USCe top SEC teams? Just curious...not saying Bray is all that, and I was never actually that down on Simms, thought he was a good kid in an impossible situation, but dude...Bray is LIGHT YEARS better than Simms no matter how you slice it.

IMO.
 
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BanditVol said:
Seriously? Are uga and USCe top SEC teams? Just curious...not saying Bray is all that, and I was never actually that down on Simms, thought he was a good kid in an impossible situation, but dude...Bray is LIGHT YEARS better than Simms no matter how you slice it.

IMO.
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Matt Simms:
Florida 2010: 19 of 31, 259 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
LSU 2010: 12 of 23, 121 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Georgia 2010: 9 of 13, 179 yds, 1 touchdown, 1 interception
Alabama 2010: 12 of 22, 117 yds, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception
South Carolina 2010: 10 of 13, 153 yds, 1 touchdown, 0 interceptions
Ole Miss 2010: 0 for 1, 0 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Georgia 2011: 4 of 6, 39 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
LSU 2011: 6 of 20, 128 yds, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Alabama 2011: 8 of 17, 58 yds, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception
South Carolina 2011: 5 of 12, 46 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Arkansas 2011: 3 of 5, 30 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Totals: 88 of 163 (53.9%), 1130 yds, 4 touchdowns, 7 interceptions

Tyler Bray
Georgia 2010: 8 of 12, 81 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Alabama 2010: 5 of 14, 39 yds, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception
South Carolina 2010: 9 of 15, 159 yds, 2 touchdowns, 1 interception
Ole Miss 2010: 18 of 34, 323 yds, 3 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Vandy 2010: 16 of 27, 232 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Kentucky 2010: 20 of 38, 354 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Florida 2011: 26 of 48, 288 yds, 3 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Georgia 2011: 18 of 33, 251 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Vandy 2011: 16 of 33, 189 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Kentucky 2011: 15 of 38, 215 yds, 1 touchdown, 2 interceptions
Florida 2012: 22 of 44, 257 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Georgia 2012: 24 of 45, 281 yds, 2 touchdowns, 3 interceptions
Miss. State 2012: 13 of 24, 148 yds, 2 touchdowns, 1 interception
Alabama 2012: 13 of 27, 184 yds, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
South Carolina 2012: 27 of 43, 368 yds, 4 touchdowns, 1 interception
Totals: 250 of 459 (54.4%), 3369 yds, 25 touchdowns, 21 interceptions

Those aren't too different, minus the number of games played, and passes attempted (Which does lead to more touchdowns/interceptions). Bray's attempted about 3x the passes Simms did, so if you do that across the board, they are almost identical. And the teams Simms played against were arguably better (not for certain cause there have been some surprises this year), and certainly had a worse team around him. Plus, he had beaten LSU in 2010 if not for a coaching/communication mishap.
 
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I think that the main difference between the two is that Bray makes some incredible throws, which tends to make you forget the horrible ones and the stupid ones. Also, Bray has thrown a lot of balls that should have been intercepted. Bray has a bigger upside, but also a bigger downside.
 
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BanditVol said:
Seriously? Are uga and USCe top SEC teams? Just curious...not saying Bray is all that, and I was never actually that down on Simms, thought he was a good kid in an impossible situation, but dude...Bray is LIGHT YEARS better than Simms no matter how you slice it.

IMO.
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Yeah you are right. Bray is better. But who has Bray beat. Plus Bray was the QB for us when Kentucky used a WR at QB to beat us last year. So how much better is he.
 
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Bray's legacy will be decided by whether he beats Kentucky and Vandy this year or not. If he loses, his legacy is shot. If he wins, he may get some fans back on his side.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Matt Simms:
Florida 2010: 19 of 31, 259 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
LSU 2010: 12 of 23, 121 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Georgia 2010: 9 of 13, 179 yds, 1 touchdown, 1 interception
Alabama 2010: 12 of 22, 117 yds, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception
South Carolina 2010: 10 of 13, 153 yds, 1 touchdown, 0 interceptions
Ole Miss 2010: 0 for 1, 0 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Georgia 2011: 4 of 6, 39 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
LSU 2011: 6 of 20, 128 yds, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Alabama 2011: 8 of 17, 58 yds, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception
South Carolina 2011: 5 of 12, 46 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Arkansas 2011: 3 of 5, 30 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Totals: 88 of 163 (53.9%), 1130 yds, 4 touchdowns, 7 interceptions

Tyler Bray
Georgia 2010: 8 of 12, 81 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Alabama 2010: 5 of 14, 39 yds, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception
South Carolina 2010: 9 of 15, 159 yds, 2 touchdowns, 1 interception
Ole Miss 2010: 18 of 34, 323 yds, 3 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Vandy 2010: 16 of 27, 232 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Kentucky 2010: 20 of 38, 354 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Florida 2011: 26 of 48, 288 yds, 3 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Georgia 2011: 18 of 33, 251 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Vandy 2011: 16 of 33, 189 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Kentucky 2011: 15 of 38, 215 yds, 1 touchdown, 2 interceptions
Florida 2012: 22 of 44, 257 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Georgia 2012: 24 of 45, 281 yds, 2 touchdowns, 3 interceptions
Miss. State 2012: 13 of 24, 148 yds, 2 touchdowns, 1 interception
Alabama 2012: 13 of 27, 184 yds, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
South Carolina 2012: 27 of 43, 368 yds, 4 touchdowns, 1 interception
Totals: 250 of 459 (54.4%), 3369 yds, 25 touchdowns, 21 interceptions

Those aren't too different, minus the number of games played, and passes attempted (Which does lead to more touchdowns/interceptions). Bray's attempted about 3x the passes Simms did, so if you do that across the board, they are almost identical. And the teams Simms played against were arguably better (not for certain cause there have been some surprises this year), and certainly had a worse team around him. Plus, he had beaten LSU in 2010 if not for a coaching/communication mishap.
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I'm not a huge Bray supporter. I would even like to see Worley get a chance sometime,but saying that multiplying Simms' stats by three would make them "almost identical" is ridiculous. Maybe in yards, but you would also have 12 touchdowns and 21 interceptions. That is a HUGE difference. Plus I would like to see sacks and third down conversions in the equation. Touchdowns and yards don't always tell the whole story. Could it be that Bray has more attempts partially because we aren't going 3 and out on half of our possessions?
 
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whobethis16 said:
Matt Simms:
Florida 2010: 19 of 31, 259 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
LSU 2010: 12 of 23, 121 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Georgia 2010: 9 of 13, 179 yds, 1 touchdown, 1 interception
Alabama 2010: 12 of 22, 117 yds, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception
South Carolina 2010: 10 of 13, 153 yds, 1 touchdown, 0 interceptions
Ole Miss 2010: 0 for 1, 0 yds, 0 touchowns, 0 interceptions
Georgia 2011: 4 of 6, 39 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
LSU 2011: 6 of 20, 128 yds, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Alabama 2011: 8 of 17, 58 yds, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception
South Carolina 2011: 5 of 12, 46 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Arkansas 2011: 3 of 5, 30 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Totals: 88 of 163 (53.9%), 1130 yds, 4 touchdowns, 7 interceptions

Tyler Bray
Georgia 2010: 8 of 12, 81 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Alabama 2010: 5 of 14, 39 yds, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception
South Carolina 2010: 9 of 15, 159 yds, 2 touchdowns, 1 interception
Ole Miss 2010: 18 of 34, 323 yds, 3 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Vandy 2010: 16 of 27, 232 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Kentucky 2010: 20 of 38, 354 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Florida 2011: 26 of 48, 288 yds, 3 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Georgia 2011: 18 of 33, 251 yds, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Vandy 2011: 16 of 33, 189 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Kentucky 2011: 15 of 38, 215 yds, 1 touchdown, 2 interceptions
Florida 2012: 22 of 44, 257 yds, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
Georgia 2012: 24 of 45, 281 yds, 2 touchdowns, 3 interceptions
Miss. State 2012: 13 of 24, 148 yds, 2 touchdowns, 1 interception
Alabama 2012: 13 of 27, 184 yds, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions
South Carolina 2012: 27 of 43, 368 yds, 4 touchdowns, 1 interception
Totals: 250 of 459 (54.4%), 3369 yds, 25 touchdowns, 21 interceptions

Those aren't too different, minus the number of games played, and passes attempted (Which does lead to more touchdowns/interceptions). Bray's attempted about 3x the passes Simms did, so if you do that across the board, they are almost identical. And the teams Simms played against were arguably better (not for certain cause there have been some surprises this year), and certainly had a worse team around him. Plus, he had beaten LSU in 2010 if not for a coaching/communication mishap.
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169 passes to 459 and not different numbers, forgetting the sacks number in this equation. Thats the reason he lost his job to a freshman in each of his jr and sr years
 
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Matt Simms gave his all to the University of Tennessee. He is a smart kid who knows the game. He is lacking a little on the talent level, arm. He will probably make a very good coach someday.

If he were the QB this year and had a arm like Bray, we would be a one lose team.
 
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fearsvols said:
169 passes to 459 and not different numbers, forgetting the sacks number in this equation. Thats the reason he lost his job to a freshman in each of his jr and sr years
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Part of that low number is also because Simms was smart enough to be able to read a defense and check into a run play when he saw that the pass would not work. Has Bray audibled yet in his career? I've not seen one. Bray is more talented, etc, which is why the game plan is built around him, however, most of his good games came against Vandy, Kentucky, and Ole Miss. He has a one up cause of USC this year. But if you don't think Simms would have thrown for 200+ yards and a couple of TDs against those teams, you're crazy. He wouldn't have the huge games, but would've definitely been good enough to win.

And Simms had a far worse O-line protecting for him than Bray has had.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Part of that low number is also because Simms was smart enough to be able to read a defense and check into a run play when he saw that the pass would not work. Has Bray audibled yet in his career? I've not seen one. Bray is more talented, etc, which is why the game plan is built around him, however, most of his good games came against Vandy, Kentucky, and Ole Miss. He has a one up cause of USC this year. But if you don't think Simms would have thrown for 200+ yards and a couple of TDs against those teams, you're crazy. He wouldn't have the huge games, but would've definitely been good enough to win.

And Simms had a far worse O-line protecting for him than Bray has had.
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Two sides to this coin as well. If Bray had the defense Simms had then we win most our games this season.
 
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VonVol said:
Two sides to this coin as well. If Bray had the defense Simms had then we win most our games this season.
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I could see that. Unless of course, the same argument is made that if it takes the opponents' offense more time to score, then their defense is rested more to stop our offense. But in general I would agree with that.
 
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