Mccain and soros worked together

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It’s not inconceivable McCain was in Soros’ pocket. McCain was all about lining his so I highly doubt he GAS where the money came from.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Yeah, that's a good start. Thwarting legal immigration when your own commerce department is telling you/us we were short a million workers is puzzling. "Ending" the worst trade deal ever only to allow Democrats to slightly tweak it (making it worse) simply so he could claim a political win was pretty stupid. Those are a few that come to mind. Badgering the fed about lowering interest rates so we could maintain the illusion of a healthy economy was pretty telling. He's all about manipulation.
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The tariffs and other trade protectionism didn’t help, either.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I see where you are coming from and I get it. I just make a distinction between the two situations that I would rather not get into right now.
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Bottom line is Trump is the guy who said deficits don't matter and then spent accordingly. W spent $3.52T his final year and 8 years later Obama spent $3.98T. Trump took that $3.98T and made it $4.45T by year 3, before the pandemic. He has no leg to stand on.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
The pipeline wasn't going to provide a major blow to OPEC.

The big beef with Biden and supply chain issues is that he hasn't done anything. That, based upon your stated stances should make you happy.

The Trump economy was in the shi77er when he handed it over.
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GDP grew in Q3, 4 of 2020 and Q1 of 2021. If that was an economy in the shizzer then it still is except now we've added extended inflation
 
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Sen. John McCain's role in Trump dossier intrigue detailed in deposition

John McCain's role in Trump dossier intrigue detailed in deposition

Conservative Free Beacon originally funded firm that created Trump-Russia dossier


By CRISTIANO LIMA

10/27/2017 07:51 PM EDT

Representatives for the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative online news site, informed congressional investigators Friday the outlet had originally funded the research firm that created the salacious dossier containing allegations of ties between Donald Trump's campaign and Russian operatives, the publication said in a statement.

Conservative Free Beacon originally funded firm that created Trump-Russia dossier

Sen. Lindsey Graham says he told John McCain to give Trump-Russia dossier to FBI

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5e28ca-4f26-11e9-a3f7-78b7525a8d5f_story.html


George Soros, liberal megadonor, is bankrolling Fusion GPS, claims Russian billionaire

March 10, 2018

A Russian billionaire writes that George Soros, a major financier of liberal causes, is funding Fusion GPS, the firm that orchestrated the Christopher Steele dossier.

https://apnews.com/article/47189adfb15c9a6691900608c7c6a0e5
http://api.addthis.com/oexchange/0....l=http://politi.co/2iDXLp9&pubid=politico.com
 
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Anyone else feel like OP and Franklin Pierce are Communist propaganda trucks cosplaying as humans on a sports forum?
 
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NEO said:
He did.

When Trump fast tracked the vaccines both Biden and Harris publicly stated it was too fast and they didn’t trust it. They then pushed locked downs.

Only after Biden got in he suddenly felt the vaccines were totally safe and by this point every conservative and open minded liberal had already heard his take and now felt the vaccines were political.

If Biden and Harris had supported the vaccines from the beginning, the country as a whole views the vaccines differently, and maybe the lock downs don’t happen.

The Fed unemployment match and stimulus money and child tax credit money has also made many poor Americans plush with cash to the point they do not currently need to work. They will only come back when they run out of money. 250 per kid is many of these people’s weekly net checks and they have multiple kids.

Fact is, yes he greatly helped tank this economy.
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Extra unemployment money, eviction moratorium, and stimulus checks were all done on Trump's watch right? I have a hard time believing the child tax checks are really making such a big difference
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
The pipeline wasn't going to provide a major blow to OPEC.

The big beef with Biden and supply chain issues is that he hasn't done anything. That, based upon your stated stances should make you happy.

The Trump economy was in the shi77er when he handed it over.
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OPEC knew it could not increase the price per barrel because the US administration was pro drilling here in all aspects and any price increase by Opec would simply increase production here which would offset the changes and lower the price per barrel

Biden stopped all of that when he was elected and now OPEC is back in total control.

The price per barrel was completely self inflicted and manufactured by our administration.
 
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utvolpj said:
Extra unemployment money, eviction moratorium, and stimulus checks were all done on Trump's watch right? I have a hard time believing the child tax checks are really making such a big difference
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Trump did the initial stimulus yes.

The match and multiple eviction moratoriums was done by Biden.

And yes, there is a large population sector that lives on 1500 per month and has zero urge to get out of it and is now just using the child check as income offfset.


Trump allowed Fauci to create the narrative and completely failed there but the last year has been a total disaster in all fronts.

Again, the best thing Trump did was get out of the way on multiple regulations. That is all this country needs at this point. Someone to just pull a ton of power bsck from the US feds.
 
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NEO said:
Trump did the initial stimulus yes.

The match and multiple eviction moratoriums was done by Biden.

And yes, there is a large population sector that lives on 1500 per month and has zero urge to get out of it and is now just using the child check as income offfset.


Trump allowed Fauci to create the narrative and completely failed there but the last year has been a total disaster in all fronts.

Again, the best thing Trump did was get out of the way on multiple regulations. That is all this country needs at this point. Someone to just pull a ton of power bsck from the US feds.
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Trump signed an extension of both the extra unemployment benefits and eviction moratorium before leaving office. That means he signed both multiple times
 
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utvolpj said:
Trump signed an extension of both the extra unemployment benefits and eviction moratorium before leaving office. That means he signed both multiple times
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The original Cares act included the moratorium and was signed into law by Trump so technically this is the first one but Trump himself only did one executive order to continue it until January 1st.

Trump made major mistakes in 2020 though but what was done in 20 was trying to save a country and 21 was done to transform a country.
 
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NEO said:
OPEC knew it could not increase the price per barrel because the US administration was pro drilling here in all aspects and any price increase by Opec would simply increase production here which would offset the changes and lower the price per barrel

Biden stopped all of that when he was elected and now OPEC is back in total control.

The price per barrel was completely self inflicted and manufactured by our administration.
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except that wasn’t the reason opec had low prices. Think Russia and you’ll get your answer
 
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NEO said:
The original Cares act included the moratorium and was signed into law by Trump so technically this is the first one but Trump himself only did one executive order to continue it until January 1st.

Trump made major mistakes in 2020 though but what was done in 20 was trying to save a country and 21 was done to transform a country.
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He signed off on another trillion last December to extend extra ue benefits thru March. He had penises much more if reelected

How many trillions does it take to "save" the country? Call it what you want but the end result is still massive debt through entitlement programs and handouts. It would have been better if he was simply an effective leader
 
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utvolpj said:
He signed off on another trillion last December to extend extra ue benefits thru March. He had penises much more if reelected

How many trillions does it take to "save" the country? Call it what you want but the end result is still massive debt through entitlement programs and handouts. It would have been better if he was simply an effective leader
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Of all his penises and short cummings 😂 the Cares
Act was designed to keep businesses afloat and allow them to not lose their staff while the business was closed. I have zero issue with that part. That kept a lot of business owners from going under.
 
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NEO said:
He did.

When Trump fast tracked the vaccines both Biden and Harris publicly stated it was too fast and they didn’t trust it. They then pushed locked downs.

Only after Biden got in he suddenly felt the vaccines were totally safe and by this point every conservative and open minded liberal had already heard his take and now felt the vaccines were political.

If Biden and Harris had supported the vaccines from the beginning, the country as a whole views the vaccines differently, and maybe the lock downs don’t happen.

The Fed unemployment match and stimulus money and child tax credit money has also made many poor Americans plush with cash to the point they do not currently need to work. They will only come back when they run out of money. 250 per kid is many of these people’s weekly net checks and they have multiple kids.

Fact is, yes he greatly helped tank this economy.
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I think that might be part of the reason they want to start looking at peoples bank accounts.

A lot of people were able to save due to their stupid covid policies so now they want to go poking around into peoples financial privacy. Fair share = we decide how to use the money you have.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
except that wasn’t the reason opec had low prices. Think Russia and you’ll get your answer
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Think US drilling and fracking and you will also get the answer.

In 2018 Trump leased 12.8 millions acres of federal land to be drilled on. Triple the number Obama did. This caused the price of oil to drop as OPEC could no longer hold reserves and artificially increase the price per barrel. It is why in 2020 pre Covid pandemic the price per barrel was down to 42 dollars from an average of 100 under Obama. There was a huge amount of oil everywhere and everyone had it on hand. To compare, last February Biden froze all new and renewal leases for oil and gas drilling.
 
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utvolpj said:
Extra unemployment money, eviction moratorium, and stimulus checks were all done on Trump's watch right? I have a hard time believing the child tax checks are really making such a big difference
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Think about it. Covid was new and they were about to make people stay home. That's a lot different than having a better understanding of covid once you realize what works and what doesn't. Now what Trump did was help the democrats have an open door to their redistribution utopia and they could use him as the excuse for doing it. They've doubled or tripled down.
 
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But those trillions in handouts were needed to save the country!!! It's totally ok

Both sides make the same claim
 
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NEO said:
Think US drilling and fracking and you will also get the answer.

In 2018 Trump leased 12.8 millions acres of federal land to be drilled on. Triple the number Obama did. This caused the price of oil to drop as OPEC could no longer hold reserves and artificially increase the price per barrel. It is why in 2020 pre Covid pandemic the price per barrel was down to 42 dollars from an average of 100 under Obama. There was a huge amount of oil everywhere and everyone had it on hand. To compare, last February Biden froze all new and renewal leases for oil and gas drilling.
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And how much production was coming off those leases? And gas was lower at the point Obama left office than when Trump left office. The real reason for low prices was Russia exerting its influence and proving it could break opec.
 
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utvolpj said:
But those trillions in handouts were needed to save the country!!! It's totally ok

Both sides make the same claim
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I am different than most on here as I view the US as a business entity that competes with other business entities around the globe.

All businesses take out loan for R&D. The will also take out loans during cash strapped times or times of expansion. This too I have zero issue with.

The issue is the business eventually pays these bsck and in good times reinvest the capital back into the business.

Our country doesn’t do this. We take out a million dollar loan and then give every employee a dozens roses with it and gift cards and gift cards for our friends and then we mail cash gift to people on the other side of the world we barely know and then out of thst million we only invest 100k into the actual business.

Then when we are unable to pay it back we borrow more.

I have zero issue borrowing as much money as is “needed” but it must all be to help the country actually grow and this is not happening. We must also start cutting waste and pork and thst isn’t happening either.
 
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