McCain being more liberal

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SWIL said:
McCain is solid as a rock on military/foriegn policy (good), but weak on economics; which isn't good considering where this country is headed financially.
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I think McCain has a viewpoint of cutting govt waste. As for the economy, I assume he will use advisors for the detail but his basic view is more in the republican mode (more free market, less government involvement). Accordingly, just staying out of the way of the economy is probably a pretty good strategy.

Obama on the other hand sees a much larger role for the government in shaping and managing both the economy and the distribution of wealth.

His commentary last night suggested the way he would address the growing income gap between rich and poor is to make the rich less rich. Why not focus on making it easier for the poor to move up in income?
 
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Fine Vol said:
My opinion is that if Bush had not been so bad of a pres. the Repubs would run away with this election.
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I am not so sure that GWB is a bad President. He is certainly an unpopular President. I do believe that history will be incredibly kind to GWB, though.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
only way this country will survivie is by compromise[/B]....... that does not mean the expansion of government though.... :thumbsup:
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I have to cordially disagree, OE. I would have to say that plenty of compromise over the last 200 odd years has actually put us in the situation we are in today.

The Constitution should have never been compromised...it has been. As the Federal Government was established, the majority in office should have never compromised...they always do.

It is a sad state of affairs when the electorate wants to nominate and vote for "moderates." How do you elect a "moderate" and then hold them accountable? The very nature of that person is that they hold no beliefs strongly enough to be held accountable to anyone or any kind of moral structure.

What this country needs are candidates that are not afraid to emphatically state their beliefs, and then let the voters decide whether or not they agree and want the same.
 
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allvol123 said:
The problem is...once we do...the agreement will suck.
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The spot this country is in right now is largely due to the lack of bi-partisan action. :rtfm:

I'm not talking about soicalism or government expansion. Checks and balances is a necessity for any democracy.

We can all agree this country needs some serious changes, yes?

How will any significant changes be made if neither side is willing to compromise?
 
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SWIL said:
The spot this country is in right now is largely due to the lack of bi-partisan action. :rtfm:
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Not at all. The country is where it is today because our elected lawmakers apparently have either not read the Constitution or they do not take their Oath, to defend the Constitution, seriously.

Can you please name something good, as in an Act, Bill, or Law, that has come from bi-partisanship?
 
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therealUT said:
I have to cordially disagree, OE. I would have to say that plenty of compromise over the last 200 odd years has actually put us in the situation we are in today.

The Constitution should have never been compromised...it has been. As the Federal Government was established, the majority in office should have never compromised...they always do.

It is a sad state of affairs when the electorate wants to nominate and vote for "moderates." How do you elect a "moderate" and then hold them accountable? The very nature of that person is that they hold no beliefs strongly enough to be held accountable to anyone or any kind of moral structure.

What this country needs are candidates that are not afraid to emphatically state their beliefs, and then let the voters decide whether or not they agree and want the same.
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This would make sense if America was comprised of only one kind of people. It's not. America is a fabric of races, religion, cultures, etc. Free to all.

Like it or not, this is why moderate votes are becoming more popular; they most closely resemble a "collective" America.
 
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SWIL said:
The spot this country is in right now is largely due to the lack of bi-partisan action. :rtfm:

I'm not talking about soicalism or government expansion. Checks and balances is a necessity for any democracy.

We can all agree this country needs some serious changes, yes?

How will any significant changes be made if neither side is willing to compromise?
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I read your post with my hand over my heart.:)
 
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SWIL said:
This would make sense if America was comprised of only one kind of people. It's not. America is a fabric of races, religion, cultures, etc. Free to all.

Like it or not, this is why moderate votes are becoming more popular; they most closely resemble a "collective" America.
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Negative. Not having a Republic would make sense if America was comprised of only one kind of people.

However, do not try to tell me that legislators have to be moderate in order for the legislature to be effective. The problem is, we seem to have a different view of what "effective" means, as it pertains to the legislature.

I would say that an "effective" legislature would be one that rarely meets, rarely passes new legislation, and pretty much provides the people with greater liberty; therefore, greater opportunity.

Those who desire "moderates" probably believe that an effective government is one that is creating new laws every single day. This inconceivable desire is proven every time a news article points out, in outrage, how little the Congress met for a certain session. Ridiculous!
 
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Fine Vol said:
I am a Dem. but watching Hillary and Obama rip each other up is very silly and I am not proud of that.
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Since you brought it up.. Which Democratic President were you last proud of? And don't pretext your answer.
 
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MG1968 said:
do you get better by actually doing your job or sitting around reading manuals on how to do your job?
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I guess that would depend on how your brain works best, which leaves Bush out all together because he doesn't have one.:whistling:
 
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OWB said:
So do you think Bush has made our military stronger?
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He has built its numbers and equipment back up. Our military was in great shape after Gulf War I. Clinton scaled it back heavily despite the growing threat from radical Islam and our enemies in the middle east. Yes I think he has made our military stronger in both numbers and in equip. Now has he used them in the best way is a better question and I would have to say I do not agree with a man who does not listen to his military leaders on the ground.
 
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