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McCain filed the paperwork to start his presidential candidacy exploratory committee so he can start raising money. At this point I can't think of any potential candidate who could beat him in the R primary other than Colin Powell.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
At this point I can't think of any potential candidate who could beat him in the R primary other than Colin Powell.
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I don't think it's going to be quite as easy as some people think. As much as McCain has tried to position himself as a Reagan-esque conservative the past couple of days, he's just not.
 
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I would think he has a better shot at the National election than at the Republican nomination.

It depends on the reaction to the mid-terms. If the RNC answer is to go more conservative, McCain could be in trouble. If it's to go more centrist, then he's got a good shot.

I know many moderate democrats that have expressed support for McCain over the years. Likewise, I know many conservative republicans that don't like him.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
McCain filed the paperwork to start his presidential candidacy exploratory committee so he can start raising money. At this point I can't think of any potential candidate who could beat him in the R primary other than Colin Powell.
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powell would probably be the only republican canidate i might vote for. Mccain is a idiot. some days he's for immigration other days against it. i always thought he was a good senator untill i moved to arizona and started listening to what he stood for. in my opinion he would be worse than W. being a war hero does not make you a good senator and he has proven that.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
McCain filed the paperwork to start his presidential candidacy exploratory committee so he can start raising money. At this point I can't think of any potential candidate who could beat him in the R primary other than Colin Powell.
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Someone else will emerge. McCain would be a sure ticket for a Republican loss.
 
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McCain will find a way to not make it out of the primaries. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
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Simply put, John McCain says whatever it is he thinks the people want to hear. The man has absolutely no guts and no backbone. He guilt trips those who do not appreciate the way he politics by continually managing to bring up his years as a POW in Vietnam. Most conservative leaning voters do not like McCain, so I am not too terribly worried about the prospects of him winning the Republican Primary...it is an incredibly long shot.

Unfortunately, the GOP will probably not run a viable conservative candidate. As much as I would love to see Rice or Santorum campaign for the top spot in the Executive Branch, I believe we will be left with a choice between Rudy, Colin, and John. Basically, pick the least worthless of the three.
 
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therealUT said:
Simply put, John McCain says whatever it is he thinks the people want to hear. The man has absolutely no guts and no backbone. He guilt trips those who do not appreciate the way he politics by continually managing to bring up his years as a POW in Vietnam. Most conservative leaning voters do not like McCain, so I am not too terribly worried about the prospects of him winning the Republican Primary...it is an incredibly long shot.

Unfortunately, the GOP will probably not run a viable conservative candidate. As much as I would love to see Rice or Santorum campaign for the top spot in the Executive Branch, I believe we will be left with a choice between Rudy, Colin, and John. Basically, pick the least worthless of the three.
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Wow UT we finally agree on something. i never thought that would happen. especially on the politics page.:good!:
 
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therealUT said:
Simply put, John McCain says whatever it is he thinks the people want to hear. The man has absolutely no guts and no backbone. He guilt trips those who do not appreciate the way he politics by continually managing to bring up his years as a POW in Vietnam. Most conservative leaning voters do not like McCain, so I am not too terribly worried about the prospects of him winning the Republican Primary...it is an incredibly long shot.

Unfortunately, the GOP will probably not run a viable conservative candidate. As much as I would love to see Rice or Santorum campaign for the top spot in the Executive Branch, I believe we will be left with a choice between Rudy, Colin, and John. Basically, pick the least worthless of the three.
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Is it just my youth, or are most elections "pick the least worthless candidate"?
 
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GAVol said:
I hear that all the time. You might truly feel that way, but for a lot of people, I think it's a cop out.
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I would have voted this year, but my registration got fudged, and you have to be registered at least 21 days before the election.
 
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I dont think McCain has a prayer of getting elected.

He's been in Washington for decades and what has he accomplished? Its very difficult for a senator to get elected, too much baggage.
 
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shhhh!! John Kerry might hear that and start claiming he was also a POW too.

McCain's claim to fame is the unprecedented assault on political free speech that is the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance bill. Of course, it doesn't help that W signed that sorry piece of legislation into law.
 
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MG1968 said:
shhhh!! John Kerry might hear that and start claiming he was also a POW too.

McCain's claim to fame is the unprecedented assault on political free speech that is the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance bill. Of course, it doesn't help that W signed that sorry piece of legislation into law.
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Apparently, the background on that was that everyone (including most Dems) who voted to pass that bill, believed it would be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Of course, our great Supreme Court once again dropped the ball on that one.
 
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all other considerations aside, McCain better change his position on Iraq real quick-like. After what we learned from exit polls on Tuesday, his "the way to win the war is to send more troops" ain't gonna go over well. I suspect we'll see him backing off of that one pronto.
 
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All Vol! said:
all other considerations aside, McCain better change his position on Iraq real quick-like. After what we learned from exit polls on Tuesday, his "the way to win the war is to send more troops" ain't gonna go over well. I suspect we'll see him backing off of that one pronto.
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I actually agree with him there..
 
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All Vol! said:
all other considerations aside, McCain better change his position on Iraq real quick-like. After what we learned from exit polls on Tuesday, his "the way to win the war is to send more troops" ain't gonna go over well. I suspect we'll see him backing off of that one pronto.
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The war position didn't doom Lieberman.
 
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I love how some of these way too far left liberals feel that for some reason we are leaving Iraq. The Democrats who hold positions of influence pandered to their base with suggestions of timetables and withdrawal schedules, and once they won, they immediately come out and say we are not going anywhere. Regardless of who holds the power in the U.S., we will continue to patrol Iraq for at least 4 more years, and will continue to stage troops in Iraq for at least 15 to 50.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Specific examples?
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To add to GAVol's response, I enjoy McCain's thoughts that the information gained through torture is unreliable. Yet, when he was tortured, he gave up everything the Vietnamese wanted to know.

If that is not a specific example of saying exactly what the people want to hear, instead of stating the truth as he lived it, then I don't know what is.
 
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What is not Reaganesque about his positions? The reason I ask is that people seem to be on this 'hate McCain' bandwagon but when pushed for reasons very few can even offer anything legitimate.

Considering he is considered one of the most conservative Senators in Congress I am just curious as to why he is not Reaganesque. On the immigration issue, I remind you that Reagan's administration was responsible for the largest amnesty program in our nation's history. But yet McCain is far out?

On the torture line, people will often give up info when threatened with life. Who is to say this info is going to be reliable? Plus with low level combatants being captured as well as the cell structure being what the terrorists use, the reliability factor is diminished.

I think he is more an expert at techniques used and the psyche of a prisoner under torture than most who merely read books and watch movies like Rambo.
 
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