McCollough Assault Case not Done

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WoodsmanVol said:
Sure. But I wasn't talking only about the Jylen situation. I'm to my own shock, totally for Big Borhter/Eyeborg surveillance given social events in these times. I'd have wanted to brain you if you even hinted at such surveillance in the somewhat recent past. Not anymore.
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I get it
 
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I am still wondering why the KPD did not do a BAT on the victim. That would be one of several questions that I would ask the 2 Officers on the scene. It is a failed investigation by not doing so in the course of an arrest.
 
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Expect an indictment….they indict citizens at like a 98% clip. Conversely they indict cops at like a 5% rate. The prosecutions job is literally to tell their side of the story. Let’s not pretend they won’t lie thru their teeth ti advance their careers. There are plenty that don’t care about justice, only politics.

Not a chance he’s convicted either way….
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I don't think he has to be in fear of harm to himself, though. He can be in fear of harm to his girlfriend. Or maybe even his cherished possessions. I don't know if fear for the security of belongings is adequate cause for use of reasonable force to protect them in the state of Tennessee, or not. But certainly fear for a loved one is included in self defense, right?
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Tank’s best friend, roommate and teammate had also just undergone a major surgery for a season ending injury and in no way could physically defend himself.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I think you've gotten a couple of the details wrong. For instance, I understood Burrell to say McCollough hit the intruder while he (Burrell) was leaning against the corner of the vestibule just outside the apartment. Which would put McCollough and the perp on the concrete breezeway outside the home.

And most importantly, what other witnesses have you heard from? When, and how? Only one person gave a statement to police the day of the incident (the drunk dude). And only three people gave testimony to the preliminary hearing this week (drunk dude, Burrell, and McCullough).

So why do you think there are other witnesses "corroborating the other guy's story"?

Please explain.
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Tank actually stated that he was about a foot in front of his door and if he’d have taken a step backwards his back would have been against it at the time drunk dude got punched.
That puts the altercation in the vestibule area of the apartment.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
I am still wondering why the KPD did not do a BAT on the victim. That would be one of several questions that I would ask the 2 Officers on the seen. It is a failed investigation by not doing so in the course of an arrest.
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I'm still wondering what dimwit cop would respond to a call with a home invader and arrest not the invader, but the person in the home. No matter the circumstance that's just insane.
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
This kid that was punched is still having issues and hasn’t been able to return to work since the injury.

Show a little compassion, he wasn’t a threat, and was assaulted. He’s had multiple doctor visits, MRI’s and still can’t work this long after the attack.
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How drunk were you?
 
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My son’s girlfriend is friends with the guy, and they worked together. So we get all the info from her. Per the kids mom he’s had to have numerous surgeries for the damage done, and can’t work or drive since the issue.

But Jaylen hit the guy, that’s not in doubt. The kid wasn’t in his apartment, he never swung at Jaylen, and Jaylen hit him hard enough that he had to have his hand bandaged because it was bleeding also. If he hit him inside the apartment he would have a better case. But he didn’t.

If someone breaks into your house, you have every right to defend your home or property. You can even shoot the person. However, you cannot chase the person down after they have left your house and attack them outside.

The kid was stupid and drunk, but those are not excuses for assault, and that’s why it was not thrown out.
 
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BucksnortVol said:
The Knox County DA is an Auburn grad....not kidding. So expect no favors or benefits of the doubt. This is almost predictable. Hope for a No True Bill.
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He was voted in. You get what you vote for. If you want to change it, then vote for his opponent in the next election. I don’t live in Knoxville, but the constant BS the football program is dragged through when it comes to the relationship with the PD and the DA has long been an issue.
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
My son’s girlfriend is friends with the guy, and they worked together. So we get all the info from her. Per the kids mom he’s had to have numerous surgeries for the damage done, and can’t work or drive since the issue.

But Jaylen hit the guy, that’s not in doubt. The kid wasn’t in his apartment, he never swung at Jaylen, and Jaylen hit him hard enough that he had to have his hand bandaged because it was bleeding also. If he hit him inside the apartment he would have a better case. But he didn’t.

If someone breaks into your house, you have every right to defend your home or property. You can even shoot the person. However, you cannot chase the person down after they have left your house and attack them outside.

The kid was stupid and drunk, but those are not excuses for assault, and that’s why it was not thrown out.
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UT_Tix79 said:
The kid was stupid and drunk, but those are not excuses for assault, and that’s why it was not thrown out.
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Depends, The definition of whether an Assault occurred is still up for questioning. Not the excuse of the Assault. The state of the individual (Victim) comes into play which will have to go to trial. It is not going to get thrown out without cross examination and clarity.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
I am still wondering why the KPD did not do a BAT on the victim. That would be one of several questions that I would ask the 2 Officers on the seen. It is a failed investigation by not doing so in the course of an arrest.
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why would they? Do you think they require rape victims to get tested for alcohol too?
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
My son’s girlfriend is friends with the guy, and they worked together. So we get all the info from her. Per the kids mom he’s had to have numerous surgeries for the damage done, and can’t work or drive since the issue.

But Jaylen hit the guy, that’s not in doubt. The kid wasn’t in his apartment, he never swung at Jaylen, and Jaylen hit him hard enough that he had to have his hand bandaged because it was bleeding also. If he hit him inside the apartment he would have a better case. But he didn’t.

If someone breaks into your house, you have every right to defend your home or property. You can even shoot the person. However, you cannot chase the person down after they have left your house and attack them outside.

The kid was stupid and drunk, but those are not excuses for assault, and that’s why it was not thrown out.
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Shh those pesky facts and what the law states isn’t as important as what some dumb frat boy thinks about it on a message board
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
People here are just ignorant
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FIFY

We got a bunch of da*n hillbilly fans that can’t handle their football team being questioned or held to the same standard as everyone else. They think everything is a conspiracy and they constantly victim blame. ‘Women deserve to be punched by our players’, ‘This guy was drunk so he should just be glad he’s not dead. I’d have kilt him’, ‘Every flag thrown against us is Nick Saban and the refs and ESPN hating us’.

There is no conspiracy happening in Jaylen McCollough’s case. This process could easily show he was defending himself. It could show he made a bad decision and should be held responsible for his actions. The victim could have made a mistake and either of the previous statements be true at the same time as well.

Volnation posters are probably big supporters of the ‘defund the police’ movement because in every incident involving UT players, law enforcement (and now the AU DA) are 100% corrupt and just making sh*t up to ruin our football team.
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
My son’s girlfriend is friends with the guy, and they worked together. So we get all the info from her. Per the kids mom he’s had to have numerous surgeries for the damage done, and can’t work or drive since the issue.

But Jaylen hit the guy, that’s not in doubt. The kid wasn’t in his apartment, he never swung at Jaylen, and Jaylen hit him hard enough that he had to have his hand bandaged because it was bleeding also. If he hit him inside the apartment he would have a better case. But he didn’t.

If someone breaks into your house, you have every right to defend your home or property. You can even shoot the person. However, you cannot chase the person down after they have left your house and attack them outside.

The kid was stupid and drunk, but those are not excuses for assault, and that’s why it was not thrown out.
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Tennessee Stand Your Ground Law:

"The law recognizes any place inside your house or an attached porch as a part of your livelihood." And, "regarding a person's livelihood, you can use defensive force when an unlawful and forcible entry happens." - All parties agree he unlawfully and forcibly entered the wrong apartment.

So the ONLY question is whether McCollough hit him as he was standing outside the apartment, threatening to come back in, or at the top of the stairs as he was leaving. Three sober people say the former; one drunk guy says the latter. How do you explain his getting hit squarely in the face if he was, in fact, walking away? And why do you believe his story, when he was so drunk that he went to the wrong building?

What happened to the guy is very unfortunate. But it 100% happened because of his actions. He drank too much and broke into someone's apartment. McCollough wasn't in the wrong place looking for trouble that day.
 
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ButchPlz said:
I'm still wondering what dimwit cop would respond to a call with a home invader and arrest not the invader, but the person in the home. No matter the circumstance that's just insane.
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Well we need to stop electing DAs that are from other schools. Regardless of the situation they will take it as far as they can. I am not sure it would make a difference but Geez hard to use this effectively when it is a crime of some nature.

We have already experienced this in the AJ Case, I would have hoped that the Police Officers are as well investigated because of their failure to charge both parties and let the DA sort the mess out. For example, the lack of a BAT on the Victim is a huge mistake.

You charge an individual with a Felony you better have your ducks in a row. IMO a critical piece of evidence is missing... Intoxication is not a free pass.
 
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