Media scared of Fred!!!

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oklavol said:
I voted for W, and voted for both Rep Senators in the last election.

However, W is a huge disappointmnet, Gore would have been a better President IMO. Bill Clinton was a better President.

IMO W is the worst President in our lifetime.
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I take it that you were not around for the Jimmy Carter years.
 
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oklavol said:
I voted for W, and voted for both Rep Senators in the last election.

However, W is a huge disappointmnet, Gore would have been a better President IMO. Bill Clinton was a better President.

IMO W is the worst President in our lifetime.
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This is laughable. Gore a better president? A man that goes around fighting hot air and spewing it at the same time. What in the hell would have made him a better president? On top of that what made Bill Clinton a better president? How has your life in America changed from the time Clinton was president to now?
 
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I don't know about you allvol123, but I slept so much better knowing Madelaine Albright was traipsing about the globe presenting basketballs to short, psychopathic communist dictators.
 
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allvol123 said:
This is laughable. Gore a better president? A man that goes around fighting hot air and spewing it at the same time. What in the hell would have made him a better president? On top of that what made Bill Clinton a better president? How has your life in America changed from the time Clinton was president to now?
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Well, the fact is, he couldn't have been worse and remember, he got more popular votes than W. Yes, despite your "liberalphobia", Gore would have been a better president for one reason. He would have been much more receptive to taking advice from those who have more experience with the Middle East......unlike dumbo who has ignored his Dad(who forgot more than he will ever know on the issue), Colin Powell( who forgot more than he will ever know on the issue), countless armed forces generals(who forgot more than he will ever know on the issue) and the James Baker report, which dumbo put in motion. His domestic policy is also a joke. Homeland security is a joke. Less than 10% of incoming containers are checked. This is unacceptable. A number of his appointees have proven to be unbelieveably unqualified and downright incompetent. Anything would have been better.

Better in the Clinton years.....I paid less tax and made more money....Gas was 1.00 or less/gallon throughout the nineties into 2000. Because of the Family Medical Leave Act that Clinton got passed into law, I was able to keep my same job after missing many weeks due to a massive heart attack, bypass surgery and cardiac rehab. Before the Family Medical Leave ACt, I would have been given a less desirable position when I returned or would have lost my job all together.
So I liked it when Clinton was president
 
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truefan said:
Better in the Clinton years.....I paid less tax and made more money....
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You paid less taxes and made more money? I am interested to see how anyone who is the president puts a constraint on your personal ability to make money? Also, you made more money and paid less taxes during the Clinton years? It would be hard to know the exact details of your financial transactions but as a whole I have not seen that relationship in existence. Where you make more money and pay less taxes.
 
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truefan said:
I know you are a lifelong Rep, but I would take Gore over Cheney any day of the week. Are you really trying to compare Bill Clinton with W?....surely not
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Oh, I must have totally misunderstood the part where you were talking about W surrounding himself with incompetence at every turn. My bad.

Either way, Gore, Albright and Elder were only the groundwork for a very talented cast.
 
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allvol123 said:
You paid less taxes and made more money? I am interested to see how anyone who is the president puts a constraint on your personal ability to make money? Also, you made more money and paid less taxes during the Clinton years? It would be hard to know the exact details of your financial transactions but as a whole I have not seen that relationship in existence. Where you make more money and pay less taxes.
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Ever heard of Whitewater? Rose Law Firm? Perhaps a certain poster here was a former employee? Shocking they are still alive.
 
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Clinton was better than Bush in two main main areas. Ability to relate/communicate to the masses. Ability to put people in place that left the country in good financial shape. Not Clinton or extreme liberal fan, which is where I'd rank Hillary more than Bill. But, he did have some desirable skills.
 
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I love Ann Coulter's description of Fred...not that I like quoting her. But she said Fred is the GOP's Obama. People don't like the frontrunner so they flock to the next guy in hopes he will save them.
 
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GVF said:
Clinton was better than Bush in two main main areas. Ability to put people in place that left the country in good financial shape.
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Was the country left in good financial shape? I don't blame Clinton for this but the recession was well on the way when he left office. The NASDAQ crash was in effect and the recession quickly followed.

Clinton did manage to balance the budget but it was primarily driven by the hot growth of the late 90's. Simply put, revenue growth driven by the Internet/tech bubble was the source - not spending reductions. The projected surpluses were based on projections of growth that were unrealistic and never materialized.

W. inherited the recession and the vast majority of economists agree that the tax cuts were the right solution for a soft landing and quick recovery. His spending is out of control though with Iraq being a big factor. However, if you look at the continual reduction in the deficit it is much like the late 90's. Economic growth is boosting revenues (even at lower tax rates) but not quite quick enough to cover spending.

In short, I guess Clinton didn't spend as much as W. but otherwise they are both just along for the ride WRT the economy.
 
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volinbham said:
Was the country left in good financial shape? I don't blame Clinton for this but the recession was well on the way when he left office. The NASDAQ crash was in effect and the recession quickly followed.

Clinton did manage to balance the budget but it was primarily driven by the hot growth of the late 90's. Simply put, revenue growth driven by the Internet/tech bubble was the source - not spending reductions. The projected surpluses were based on projections of growth that were unrealistic and never materialized.

W. inherited the recession and the vast majority of economists agree that the tax cuts were the right solution for a soft landing and quick recovery. His spending is out of control though with Iraq being a big factor. However, if you look at the continual reduction in the deficit it is much like the late 90's. Economic growth is boosting revenues (even at lower tax rates) but not quite quick enough to cover spending.

In short, I guess Clinton didn't spend as much as W. but otherwise they are both just along for the ride WRT the economy.
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Is spending billions of dollars more then the tax revenue generated a viable economic policy? If so for how long?
 
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oklavol said:
Is spending billions of dollars more then the tax revenue generated really a viable economic policy? If so for how long?
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Worked for Clinton for six years - the last 2 he got lucky that the economy went through the roof (can you say irrational exuberance?). He was along for the ride.

I'm not advocating deficit spending as a long-run strategy but moreso commenting on the relative lack of impact a president actually has on the economy. The deficit is now $150 billion - lowest since the surplus. A few more years at this pace and it's back to balanced or surplus (assuming Congress doesn't raise taxes, increase spending or W doesn't find another war to spend $$$ on).
 
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oklavol said:
Is spending billions of dollars more then the tax revenue generated a viable economic policy? If so for how long?
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Prior to the balanced budget in the late 90s, I think it had been 20+ years since the federal government hadn't finished a year in the red.
 
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GAVol said:
Prior to the balanced budget in the late 90s, I think it had been 20+ years since the federal government hadn't finished a year in the red.
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As you know, that's not a good argument for continuing, because everyone else did it.

the debt our children and their grandchildren are being saddled with; because of our poor fisical policy; is something we should be embaressed about it and trying to stop.
 
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oklavol said:
I'm not in favor of new entitlement programs, like for instance your man Bush initiated with the prescription drug plan.
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1) You didn't answer the question
2) He is not my man, whatever that is supposed to mean
 
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oklavol said:
I'm not in favor of new entitlement programs, like for instance your man Bush initiated with the prescription drug plan.
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