Miami got HOSED by the official...

#26
#26
When he was still up in the air he juggled it. I may be making myself blind.. either way, the ball came out. Oh well, the refs were gonna make dang sure they got the Gators in the endzone. ESPN would've stopped the game if they hadn't.
 
#27
#27
Didn't anyone else notice the huge divot his elbow left? I though he had it under control as well.
 
#28
#28
I know his elbow came down, he was in bounds... but the ball was not in his hands when he came down.
Heck, oh well... the blown no holding call on the TD run was what absolutely got me.. after Miami stuffed them within the five a couple times.
 
#29
#29
volmanbill said:
I though he had it under control as well.
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I really don't even understand this perspective. Again, if a TE leaps in the middle of the field, stretches out, puts his fingers on the ball and is tucking it away when he hits the ground and the ball comes flying out, it is incomplete. If a WR goes over the middle, grasps it for a split second, then gets lit up and separated from the ball, it is incomplete.

This is perhaps the only downside I see to instant replay. What was clearly a non-catch is technically over-analyzed in superslomo to see where the elbow divot was on the field in the attempt to hyper-accurately determine if, for a nano-second, ball touched fingers when elbow touched turf before knee touched sideline. The guy went up without the ball and came down without the ball. He almost made an outsanding play. That equals incomplete.
 
#30
#30
Definitely. They can tell the kid "hey man you were in bounds before you dropped that ball... But as much as i'd love to blow florida some more, that was an imcompletion"

What was hilarious was the next drive after that, Miami's receiver dove and had a guy pulling him down and actually caughttt the ball. i was like "wow, no interference call, and he actually made the catch.. Florida doesn't have to worry about doing that"

I'm not done being mad yet haha
 
#31
#31
The ball was juggled, then tucked, then the elbow hit the ground, then the rest of the body landed out of bounds and the ball popped out. If the play had finished that way in bounds there is a strong likelihood that it would've been a live ball (fumble) and Miami could've scooped it up. The whole thing is moot anyway IMO seeing as how UF was in the lead when this happened and Miami never scored again the rest of the game while UF did score again. I guess you could make the argument that the call sucked the life out of UM and demoralized them so much that they just threw in the towel but I think that undervalues the start-to-finish effort that the Canes put into the game. If the Vols play as hard against UF as Miami did for four quarters then they may have a shot against the Gators.
 
#33
#33
cotton said:
This is perhaps the only downside I see to instant replay. What was clearly a non-catch is technically over-analyzed in superslomo to see where the elbow divot was on the field in the attempt to hyper-accurately determine if, for a nano-second, ball touched fingers when elbow touched turf before knee touched sideline. The guy went up without the ball and came down without the ball. He almost made an outsanding play. That equals incomplete.
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If you look at that play at full speed, how can anyone reasonably say he had "possession" of that football? Especially when he is juggling it before he comes down and it squirts out afterwards? Again, the common thing that is said about replay is that you need irrefutable evidence to overturn a call on the field. What that video showed us was not irrefutable, there was indeed doubt as to where he had "possession" long enough to reverse a call on the field. With that much gray area, the call on the field should have been upheld.
 
#36
#36
Gcrop said:
Correct.

I think it was a legitimate catch.
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You are wrong, sir...

The ground cannot cause a fumble, but the ground CAN cause an imcompletion.

These are not my words, but the words of an SEC official today.

Wrong call... no catch.
 
#37
#37
What'd the officials say about receivers holding? anything?

It seems like in the spread offense, wideouts get away with holding a lot.. pushing someone down from behind their shoulderpads, holding onto an arm, etc.
 
#38
#38
VolunteerHillbilly said:
The ball was juggled, then tucked, then the elbow hit the ground, then the rest of the body landed out of bounds and the ball popped out. If the play had finished that way in bounds there is a strong likelihood that it would've been a live ball (fumble) and Miami could've scooped it up.
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Not likely, since he would be down once his elbow hit the ground.
 
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