Michigan Allowing Non-Teachers to Serve As Subtitute Teachers

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hog88 said:
We'd probably be better off if they did.
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I used to make change in high school working in a convenience store with a mechanical cash register. Math just floated in my brain as people handed me money and I computed the change. Today, our kids don't have a clue how much change to give someone unless the cash register tells them. It is really sad.
 
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VolStrom said:
I used to make change in high school working in a convenience store with a mechanical cash register. Math just floated in my brain as people handed me money and I computed the change. Today, our kids don't have a clue how much change to give someone unless the cash register tells them. It is really sad.
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Exactly. When I see smoke starting to come out of their ears, I just tell them the correct amount. That would be a big money maker for me if only I were more dishonest. They're clueless.
 
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A lot of states it’s district to district. Normally the better paying the district is the more restrictions they can afford. I’ve seen some places only allow people with an associates or x number of credit hours. Others only require a diploma or GED
 
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Vol8188 said:
A lot of states it’s district to district. Normally the better paying the district is the more restrictions they can afford. I’ve seen some places only allow people with an associates or x number of credit hours. Others only require a diploma or GED
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Subs are pretty much babysitters so as long as they can pass the background check who cares about their education.
 
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hog88 said:
Subs are pretty much babysitters so as long as they can pass the background check who cares about their education.
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I will state a quality sub, although hard to find, can make a difference. Just because the right sub can enable learning to continue in the absence of a teacher. But obviously that’s rare
 
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Vol423 said:
Exactly. When I see smoke starting to come out of their ears, I just tell them the correct amount. That would be a big money maker for me if only I were more dishonest. They're clueless.
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I figure the next phrase out of your mouths will be "Hey, you kids get off my grass."
 
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Two subs I had off and on in middle/high school I’ll never forget.

One guy was a Vietnam vet with PTSD. Every so often someone would slam a hall door or drop a book and he was under his desk in a heartbeat. It would take him a bit to remember where he was and crawl out. That was a little concerning when you’re 12 but none of us thought about telling another teacher.

The other guy was a WWII vet who would explain in detail how the Japanese controlled America’s weather with satellites. It was in revenge for the war and that’s why the weather had been so weird ever since. My grandma said the weather had been out of whack since we landed on the moon so I figured she just didn’t know about the Jap satellites.
 
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Every state is a little bit different when it comes to subs. Two of my Masters candidate student teachers are currently student teaching as they long-term sub. It's requiring a lot of supervision, but I'm glad to do it and glad they get this chance.

As for math standards, there's a lot more to it than people realize. Every time someone at the federal or state levels get a hair up their butt and wants it done a different way, the whole system has to reset. Poor students can't get firm footing because they're being used as pawns by politicians
 
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