Mike McQueary's Dad Confirms His Son is Under Investigation

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therealUT said:
Sorry, pages 19-20 of the GJ Indictment.
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I did a little research in Tennessee law. They might have been able to get him on unlawful sexual contact with a minor. You would have to prove that it was for sexual arousal or sexual gratification. Now, with what we know now, that's completely obvious that arousal was the purpose. Then, with those facts, it becomes harder to prove, imo. I don't like how they were told to end the investigation though.

However, even if they had nailed him on that, it's an A misdemeanor in Tennessee. Those would be my concerns with that incident.
 
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LawVol13 said:
I did a little research in Tennessee law. They might have been able to get him on unlawful sexual contact with a minor. You would have to prove that it was for sexual arousal or sexual gratification. Now, with what we know now, that's completely obvious that arousal was the purpose. Then, with those facts, it becomes harder to prove, imo. I don't like how they were told to end the investigation though.

However, even if they had nailed him on that, it's an A misdemeanor in Tennessee. Those would be my concerns with that incident.
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I think his statement that he did it and that he knew it was wrong should have been enough for said police department to conduct a serious investigation into the kids he was in contact with at 2nd Mile.
 
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therealUT said:
I think his statement that he did it and that he knew it was wrong should have been enough for said police department to conduct a serious investigation into the kids he was in contact with at 2nd Mile.
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At that time, I just don't know if they had enough solely based on that claim to open up a wide-ranging investigation. Like I said before, now with hindsight, it's easier to say those things. However, going solely on that one instance, I don't know if they would know enough at that point to think he was using the organization to solicit and rape kids.
 
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therealUT said:
I think his statement that he did it and that he knew it was wrong should have been enough for said police department to conduct a serious investigation into the kids he was in contact with at 2nd Mile.
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Thank you.
 
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LawVol13 said:
At that time, I just don't know if they had enough solely based on that claim to open up a wide-ranging investigation. Like I said before, now with hindsight, it's easier to say those things. However, going solely on that one instance, I don't know if they would know enough at that point to think he was using the organization to solicit and rape kids.
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One would think with an admission like that the red flag that should've gone up would've blocked out the sun. Especially considering the position Sandusky was in regarding his proximity to young boys.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
One would think with an admission like that the red flag that should've gone up would've blocked out the sun.
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Again, I think it's completely obvious that with everything we know now, an investigation should have continued. However, at that time, based on those facts, I'm not sure they could have convicted him of anything. It looked like an isolated incident. I don't know how one would possibly have enough to launch a huge investigation at that point.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Again, I think it's completely obvious that with everything we know now, an investigation should have continued. However, at that time, based on those facts, I'm not sure they could have convicted him of anything. It looked like an isolated incident. I don't know how one would possibly have enough to launch a huge investigation at that point.
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You're probably right but that's the flaw in our judicial system. If child abuse is alleged it should take precedent over archaic laws and be rocketed to the front burner for investigation and ultimately prosecution if the facts bear the allegations out.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
You're probably right but that's the flaw in our judicial system. If child abuse is alleged it should take precedent over archaic laws and be rocketed to the front burner for investigation and ultimately prosecution if the facts bear the allegations out.
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I was just going to post the exact thing. It exposes a flaw in the system. But, if anything good can come out of this case, it might be that in instances just like the one we're discussing, law enforcement should go ahead and conduct that extra investigation to ensure nothing heinous is occurring.
 
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HOw this guy could have not gone in and gotten the kid away from him boggles the mind.....that is the ABSOLUTE LEAST thing he could have done....I'm fairly certain that most of us that post here would have gone in and took the child from him and quite possibly busted his skull apart.
 
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Here is an article that explains that we really don't know why Gricar decided not to prosecute.
Jerry Lauro, the investigator for the state Department of Welfare is mentioned in the grand-jury presentment as having interviewed Sandusky, along with now-retired Penn State police Officer Ron Schreffler.

The presentment says Sandusky admitted to showering naked with the victim and admitted it was wrong.

“I had no decision-making authority or power in any of these cases,” Lauro said, when contacted Saturday. “They are left up to the district attorney to decide. In all of the hundreds of cases that I ran, I never let anyone influence me.”

Schreffler declined to comment.

Gricar pursued several controversial football player cases, the prosecutions of students involved in the 2001 downtown State College riot.
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Former Centre County DA Ray Gricar's reasons for not pursuing case against Jerry Sandusky are unknown | PennLive.com
 
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I think I know what he is going to say.
He's going to say Paterno told him he would talk to the President of the University and that they would talk to the Police and don't worry they would handle it.
I guarantee you that is what he is going to say.
I think Paterno and the President will have a lot of explaining to do.
 
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oklavol said:
I think I know what he is going to say.
He's going to say Paterno told him he would talk to the President of the University and that they would talk to the Police and don't worry they would handle it.
I guarantee you that is what he is going to say.
I think Paterno and the President will have a lot of explaining to do.
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And that's why they were fired yesterday.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Just no way they could keep him. He absolutely had to be fired.
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last I heard he was on admistartive leave, but still getting paid...one of the lawyers on ESPN said Penn State was probably doing that since he's a material witness and they want to ensure his cooperation
 
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MM being investigated should not sit well with anyone that is connected to this through him.
 
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vol_in_il said:
last I heard he was on admistartive leave, but still getting paid...one of the lawyers on ESPN said Penn State was probably doing that since he's a material witness and they want to ensure his cooperation
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It's being reported that he told the players he is no longer the coach.
 
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