Millennials in the Workforce, A Generation of Weakness - Simon Sinek

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n_huffhines said:
Just ask homosexuals about how tolerant older generations were about ideas...

My cousin is a lesbian who just came out. She went to her Mom's for Mother's Day and her Stepdad wouldn't even come out of his bedroom. Just think about what it was like 40 years ago.
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Fair enough. I still think previous generations were more concerned with obscenity more than ideas and opinions, specifically political ideas and opinions. Think about their censorship of rock and roll. Rock and roll isn't an "idea" per se - it just upset their social mores. Elvis's dancing was "indecent." It simply sounded so different from the music from the previous era - they didn't like the music (or didn't consider it music at all), was too loud, etc. They considered it uncouth an unrefined for a guy to walk out there with an unbuttoned shirt and singing in a way that sounded so different from previous generations. They didn't like any talk about sex in music. "Lewdness" and drug references seemed to be their main preoccupations.
 
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05_never_again said:
Fair enough. I still think previous generations were more concerned with obscenity more than ideas and opinions, specifically political ideas and opinions. Think about their censorship of rock and roll. Rock and roll isn't an "idea" per se - it just upset their social mores. Elvis's dancing was "indecent." It simply sounded so different from the music from the previous era - they didn't like the music (or didn't consider it music at all), was too loud, etc. They considered it uncouth an unrefined for a guy to walk out there with an unbuttoned shirt and singing in a way that sounded so different from previous generations. They didn't like any talk about sex in music. "Lewdness" and drug references seemed to be their main preoccupations.
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Obscenity and suggestive material threatened their idea that sex is sacred.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Obscenity and suggestive material threatened their idea that sex is sacred.
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So they would have been totally OK with it if only married couples were depicted doing it? Nope.

Prudish, overly-conservative people have weird hang-ups with sex. Even sex they approve of or think is morally correct.
 
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05_never_again said:
So they would have been totally OK with it if only married couples were depicted doing it? Nope.

Prudish, overly-conservative people have weird hang-ups with sex. Even sex they approve of or think is morally correct.
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No, because that still violates the sacredness of it
 
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n_huffhines said:
No, because that still violates the sacredness of it
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No, what would violate the sacredness of it is doing it outside of a heterosexual marriage.

They'd consider any depiction of a married couple having sex to be "indecent" simply because that's their opinion and they have weird hang-ups with sex. Same reason they think "cuss words" should be censored that aren't actually taking the Lord's name in vain, etc. Saying the F word publicly isn't an "idea;" they just think it is unbecoming of someone to say that.
 
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05_never_again said:
No, what would violate the sacredness of it is doing it outside of a heterosexual marriage.

They'd consider any depiction of a married couple having sex to be "indecent" simply because that's their opinion and they have weird hang-ups with sex. Same reason they think "cuss words" should be censored that aren't actually taking the Lord's name in vain, etc. Saying the F word publicly isn't an "idea;" they just think it is unbecoming of someone to say that.
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Like it or not, their objections to obscenity and rock n roll stemmed from their ideas about sex and authority. You can label it whatever you want
 
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At the PHX airport I just saw a boomer slam down his menu because he found out food would be a 45 minute wait and he started sliding his chair out like he was going to leave. The waiter said thank you and started gathering the menus, and the boomer literally put hands on the waiter to push him back into place to take orders. The waiter handled it like a pro. I see the memes everywhere, but damn it's weird to see it IRL
 
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People who spend all their time worrying about how comfortable and accepted they are tend to not get jack **** done. Most people don't give a rat's ass who someone else is diddling. Marching around looking for a reason to be offended and claim moral high ground is a waste of time. Leave your personal crap at home where it belongs.
 
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n_huffhines said:
At the PHX airport I just saw a boomer slam down his menu because he found out food would be a 45 minute wait and he started sliding his chair out like he was going to leave. The waiter said thank you and started gathering the menus, and the boomer literally put hands on the waiter to push him back into place to take orders. The waiter handled it like a pro. I see the memes everywhere, but damn it's weird to see it IRL
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So, you resuscitated this thread to get a swipe back at boomers.
 
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People do realize millenials start turning 40 this year, and more of the years covered by the baby boom are past the traditional age of retirement than below? Boomer vs Millenials is basically old people versus middle aged.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
People do realize millenials start turning 40 this year, and more of the years covered by the baby boom are past the traditional age of retirement than below? Boomer vs Millenials is basically old people versus middle aged.
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That’s all generational divides ever are. Older people vs young people. The younger generation is always perceived as lazier and more disrespectful than the previous one. These made up titles are a terrible way to lump age groups and even worse way to brand preconceived biases on individuals based on their age group.

Elder Millennials are in their mid-late 30s... still a couple years from 40. The youngest ones are around 23-24... then the elder Z’s start who just started graduating college.

There is a distinct difference between the elder and the junior Mills.

I’ve never quite understood why these made up generational names are so spread out. My eldest son (8) is technically a Z with my 19 year old niece. But his two younger brothers at 6 and 4 are the yet-to-be-named post Z gen. His life will have completely different influences more in line with his two siblings than his older cousin. It’s stupid to lump them by a blanket generational title.
 
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The longer time goes on I think that Gen X is the best generation.

They seem to be the most objective - they see the other generations for what they are and critique both, and don't have any of the unsavory stereotypical traits associated with Boomers, Millennials, or Gen Z. Healthy dose of cynicism, but not too much.
 
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n_huffhines said:
At the PHX airport I just saw a boomer slam down his menu because he found out food would be a 45 minute wait and he started sliding his chair out like he was going to leave. The waiter said thank you and started gathering the menus, and the boomer literally put hands on the waiter to push him back into place to take orders. The waiter handled it like a pro. I see the memes everywhere, but damn it's weird to see it IRL
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So one episode is indicative of an entire generation? If so your generation is ****ing doomed.
 
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Tin Man said:
So, you resuscitated this thread to get a swipe back at boomers.
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As usual. All the world's problems stem from the older generation. What ****ed up about that is that if he lives long enough, he will turn into what he hates. Unlike civil unrest where realistically one race can never turn into another race.....all of these young problem solvers don't see that brick wall rushing at them at the speed of light.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
That’s all generational divides ever are. Older people vs young people. The younger generation is always perceived as lazier and more disrespectful than the previous one. These made up titles are a terrible way to lump age groups and even worse way to brand preconceived biases on individuals based on their age group.

Elder Millennials are in their mid-late 30s... still a couple years from 40. The youngest ones are around 23-24... then the elder Z’s start who just started graduating college.

There is a distinct difference between the elder and the junior Mills.

I’ve never quite understood why these made up generational names are so spread out. My eldest son (8) is technically a Z with my 19 year old niece. But his two younger brothers at 6 and 4 are the yet-to-be-named post Z gen. His life will have completely different influences more in line with his two siblings than his older cousin. It’s stupid to lump them by a blanket generational title.
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But in this case, it is closer to being correct than ever before. When the hippies were coming along, we still had a work ethic in this country and nearly everything wasn't given away free like it is now. The hippy generation (boomer radicals) still knew that eventually they would get rid of the flowers and put on a suit. Now they don't do **** because they don't have to. All they have to do is complain and threaten to sue. I see it everyday at work. A majority of the millennials are special, that's for sure
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
But in this case, it is closer to being correct than ever before. When the hippies were coming along, we still had a work ethic in this country and nearly everything wasn't given away free like it is now. The hippy generation (boomer radicals) still knew that eventually they would get rid of the flowers and put on a suit. Now they don't do **** because they don't have to. All they have to do is complain and threaten to sue. I see it everyday at work. A majority of the millennials are special, that's for sure
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I call the hippy generation the bicycle helmet generation. That born the helicopter parent generation. I fall in the middle of the two.
 
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hog88 said:
I call the hippy generation the bicycle helmet generation. That born the helicopter parent generation. I fall in the middle of the two.
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lol what? I'm from the hippie generation (what a thought), and I don't think I saw a bike helmet until I was a parent. I sure didn't have one.

If anything, we were the generation who bought bike helmets in an attempt to keep our kids' brains semi-intact.
 
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VolNExile said:
lol what? I'm from the hippie generation (what a thought), and I don't think I saw a bike helmet until I was a parent. I sure didn't have one.

If anything, we were the generation who bought bike helmets in an attempt to keep our kids' brains semi-intact.
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Y'all put the bike helmets on the kids.
 
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