Millennials

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#327
Rasputin_Vol said:
And with that in mind, also consider that the Millennials are running head first into an economy right now that has no manufacturing or industrial base (only service economy and financialization), higher cost of living compared to Boomers for most of their lives, wages haven't kept up with inflation and at the mercy of a stock market to drive their savings rather than pensions or banks paying decent interest rates on savings. These guys have more s^^t going against them than any of these Boomers realize (or care about). And you see these guys pontificating. Also, Boomers have helped in promoting this superficial, "keeping up with the Joneses", decadent environment that we have, so is it any wonder that these kids are now out of touch with reality?
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You don't see wage and inflation spirals as a chicken and egg thing; that somehow there is a magic number that says "this is the correct wage". If one thing moves and another chases it, then by definition that is a spiral.

Funny that you see boomers as some fanatically coherent group. We bought the house we are currently living in over 40 years ago. My car is the newer one - it's a 2010. We are debt free and have more than enough money in the bank to easily buy any new car - one that we would actually buy - not a rolling status symbol. Between my wife and I we have two defined pensions (hers is military retirement), SS, and multiple retirement accounts. These days we tend to keep our spending separate (but I have the utilities, and she has the insurance covered because of her military retirement). On an average month half my income is unspent, and I take only required minimum distributions from retirement accounts - because I have to. We aren't wealthy and never have been, but we aren't profligate spenders - neither were my parents and neither are our sons and their wives. You can't claim any generation is heterogenous in how it lives and spends or develops values - it's just not true.

As far as policy makers - corporate and government, I can't say any of them reflect the values of their generation or any other generation. You are mistaking their greed, arrogance, narcissism, and lust for money and power as values reflective of their generation; big mistake - it's not true. You are viewing outliers as the mean. Where you and I do agree to a great extent is that corporate and government leaders are generally fools who have made extremely poor decisions, and we of all generations are saddled with them.
 
#328
#328
WoodsmanVol said:
Boomers rocked out on LSD, marijuana, peyote, LSD, and rock and roll. Now they run all three branches of the government. Guess what their kids got?
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Guess what? I'm a boomer who has never even tried pot or any other drug - same with my wife, and a lot of others I know. Further a lot of us have had jobs and responsibilities (sometimes even including things like security clearances) that we wouldn't have had if we were drug users. But keep on believin' if it gets you to sleep at night. I can agree that the loudmouths of a generation (women's lib and the current diversities for example) can have a bigger impact than they ever deserved.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
LMAO that reply is pretty much as idiotic as your hot take 🤡
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You keep calling me "hot." Listen, child, I'm married, I don't have a wandering eye, so lay off with your offers. I'm just not interested, even though you make for a fun toy.
 
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AM64 said:
Guess what? I'm a boomer who has never even tried pot or any other drug - same with my wife, and a lot of others I know. Further a lot of us have had jobs and responsibilities (sometimes even including things like security clearances) that we wouldn't have had if we were drug users. But keep on believin' if it gets you to sleep at night. I can agree that the loudmouths of a generation (women's lib and the current diversities for example) can have a bigger impact than they ever deserved.
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That's nice, but what made you think I was talking about you specifically? And, uh, I'm a boomer too.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
That's nice, but what made you think I was talking about you specifically? And, uh, I'm a boomer too.
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Well we trade you to the current group of misfits for two anonymous flame out rookie baseball cards with the gum already used. To be clear we give you and the cards up in the trade 🤡
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Well we trade you to the current group of misfits for two anonymous flame out rookie baseball cards with the gum already used. To be clear we give you and the cards up in the trade 🤡
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How often have I told you to not talk about yourself with such self-loathing? It gives you a rash and makes you stink.

Well, Northie, you and your straw men, it's been a fun distraction for me playing with you imps today. But now, I have other things to do, but carry on. We'll bump noggings some other time, but it was fun, despite you and your buddies being about as imaginative as a sack of wet mice.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
How often have I told you to not talk about yourself with such self-loathing? It gives you a rash and makes you stink.

Well, Northie, you and your straw men, it's been a fun distraction for me playing with you imps today. But now, I have other things to do, but carry on. We'll bump noggings some other time, but it was fun, despite you and your buddies being about as imaginative as a sack of wet mice.
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So you open with that idiotic take and then accuse me of attacking a strawman. LMAO ok sure. Later Homer 🤡
 
#339
#339
I ate at a small town cafe yesterday in Arkansas. Busy as anything. Food was great. Not one employee was under 40
 
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#340
NorthDallas40 said:
So you open with that idiotic take and then accuse me of attacking a strawman. LMAO ok sure. Later Homer 🤡
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Wow!!! You really are dense, can't read and don't know what a straw man is. I'm stopping now because I don't want to be infected with the denseness you and your straw men have. Just Wow!!!!
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Wow!!! You really are dense, can't read and don't know what a straw man is. I'm stopping now because I don't want to be infected with the denseness you and your straw men have. Just Wow!!!!
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Actually that would be you not knowing what a strawman is Homer. Just as I indicated. And I’m unmoved by your NO U reply. I thought you were leaving? 🤡
 
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#342
Rasputin_Vol said:
And with that in mind, also consider that the Millennials are running head first into an economy right now that has no manufacturing or industrial base (only service economy and financialization), higher cost of living compared to Boomers for most of their lives, wages haven't kept up with inflation and at the mercy of a stock market to drive their savings rather than pensions or banks paying decent interest rates on savings. These guys have more s^^t going against them than any of these Boomers realize (or care about). And you see these guys pontificating. Also, Boomers have helped in promoting this superficial, "keeping up with the Joneses", decadent environment that we have, so is it any wonder that these kids are now out of touch with reality?
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Spare us the righteous indignation. You are making a pathetic attempt to shift the blame for laziness onto another group. If it isn't that, it is the unwillingness to try to make their situation better when they have 1,000,000 times the available resources at your fingertips to do so. Other than an attempt to convince a bunch of us to commit mass suicide, I still don't get the purpose of your rants.
 
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#343
WoodsmanVol said:
That's nice, but what made you think I was talking about you specifically? And, uh, I'm a boomer too.
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Then you of all people should know that boomers as well as other groups have never been homogeneous and that you can't pin the faults of the world on any generation. One thing I learned as a parent was that it was always very difficult even with a lot of experience to be more worldly and more knowing than my son's friends - that happens with every generation, too. The best advice I could ever give someone would be to listen to your parent's generation for advice over that of your own generation ... unless maybe you are dealing with a new cellphone.
 
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#344
AM64 said:
You don't see wage and inflation spirals as a chicken and egg thing; that somehow there is a magic number that says "this is the correct wage". If one thing moves and another chases it, then by definition that is a spiral.

Funny that you see boomers as some fanatically coherent group. We bought the house we are currently living in over 40 years ago. My car is the newer one - it's a 2010. We are debt free and have more than enough money in the bank to easily buy any new car - one that we would actually buy - not a rolling status symbol. Between my wife and I we have two defined pensions (hers is military retirement), SS, and multiple retirement accounts. These days we tend to keep our spending separate (but I have the utilities, and she has the insurance covered because of her military retirement). On an average month half my income is unspent, and I take only required minimum distributions from retirement accounts - because I have to. We aren't wealthy and never have been, but we aren't profligate spenders - neither were my parents and neither are our sons and their wives. You can't claim any generation is heterogenous in how it lives and spends or develops values - it's just not true.

As far as policy makers - corporate and government, I can't say any of them reflect the values of their generation or any other generation. You are mistaking their greed, arrogance, narcissism, and lust for money and power as values reflective of their generation; big mistake - it's not true. You are viewing outliers as the mean. Where you and I do agree to a great extent is that corporate and government leaders are generally fools who have made extremely poor decisions, and we of all generations are saddled with them.
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Your entire story is an anecdotal story about your personal experience.

That has s^^t to do with the majority of Boomers.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Your entire story is an anecdotal story about your personal experience.

That has s^^t to do with the majority of Boomers.
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Could be, but do you think you know more boomers and how they conduct their lives than a fellow boomer?
 
#347
#347
SpaceCoastVol said:
Spare us the righteous indignation. You are making a pathetic attempt to shift the blame for laziness onto another group. If it isn't that, it is the unwillingness to try to make their situation better when they have 1,000,000 times the available resources at your fingertips to do so. Other than an attempt to convince a bunch of us to commit mass suicide, I still don't get the purpose of your rants.
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It is simply a reflection of how these kids were raised and who raised them.

Boomers (and to an extent right now Gen-X) can't avoid that responsibility.
 
#348
#348
AM64 said:
Then you of all people should know that boomers as well as other groups have never been homogeneous and that you can't pin the faults of the world on any generation. One thing I learned as a parent was that it was always very difficult even with a lot of experience to be more worldly and more knowing than my son's friends - that happens with every generation, too. The best advice I could ever give someone would be to listen to your parent's generation for advice over that of your own generation ... unless maybe you are dealing with a new cellphone.
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Baby Boomers were the generation that kicked all of this off and took advantage of America at the peak of American supremacy. Since then, America has fallen off.
 
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