Monica Abbott $1 Million dollar contract

[LVJeff]

Family and friends. Awesome.

People believe all kinds of things that aren't true. For instance, I believe the posters on volnation are sensible and face facts. You for instance believe nobody watches women's softball. Both of these are not true.

 

[allvol123]

People believe all kinds of things that aren't true. For instance, I believe the posters on volnation are sensible and face facts. You for instance believe nobody watches women's softball. Both of these are not true.

What is sad is that you are quite happy with your win on the literal definition of "nobody."

To believe anyone cares about this sport on any substantial level, is pathetic.

They had to create this shenanigans of a contract to get any headline. Which, by the way, got them about 2 seconds of attention.

 

[2Alum4EverVol]

allvol123:

Your posts are just pathetic and ignorant. Just go do some fact-checking before you spew out any more pathetic & ignorant insults against the wonderful sport of softball, all its hard-working & dedicated athletes, coaches, their families & friends, and fan base..

On a historic occasion to celebrate one of the true milestones in women's sports accomplished by one of the Greatest VFLs, male or female, our own Monica Abbot, YOU had to chime in and give a piece of your mind, huh?

You are such a big man, aren't you? Your mom and sisters (do you have a wife or daughter?) should be very proud of you, I'm sure. SMH...

 

[2Alum4EverVol]

Monica's $1 mil contract created a social media buzz, and it was #1 trending hashtag for awhile as it was intended to be. There's nothing wrong with that. It was a great marketing strategy/tool by the NPF, Scrap Yard Dawgs. Not only the sports-affiliated organizations have carried the news, but NPR (National Public Radio), CNN Money, and host of other nationally renown entities have paid a tribute to Monica for making history...

 

[2Alum4EverVol]

The NPF broadcasts have consistently out-rated those of National Hockey League or Major League Soccer. That's a FACT. Now there's sports nobody watches including myself, NHL and MLS. You got that allvol123?

 

[reverseosmosis]

The NPF broadcasts have consistently out-rated those of National Hockey League or Major League Soccer. That's a FACT. Now there's sports nobody watches including myself, NHL and MLS. You got that allvol123?

I don't think this information is quite correct, especially with the use of the term "consistently".

Over the most recent few years, NHL hockey has television ratings often between 1.2 and 1.6. The NPF seems to have consistently come in around 0.4-0.5 for premiere games. MLS soccer had its lowest ratings at 0.4, but they also achieved television ratings of 0.6 in the recent past.

Seems the myth may have been busted.

 

[LVJeff]

What is sad is that you are quite happy with your win on the literal definition of "nobody."

To believe anyone cares about this sport on any substantial level, is pathetic.

They had to create this shenanigans of a contract to get any headline. Which, by the way, got them about 2 seconds of attention.

You're the one who said nobody. Walk it back as best you can.

People, mostly men, have been predicting the demise of women's sports ever since Title IX. It hasn't happened yet, and I don't think it will.

 

[2Alum4EverVol]

I don't think this information is quite correct, especially with the use of the term "consistently".

Over the most recent few years, NHL hockey has television ratings often between 1.2 and 1.6. The NPF seems to have consistently come in around 0.4-0.5 for premiere games. MLS soccer had its lowest ratings at 0.4, but they also achieved television ratings of 0.6 in the recent past.

Seems the myth may have been busted.

Upon some fact-checking, yes you seem to be right. NHL is a much more established league than the NPF, so hats off to them. But neck-in-neck in rating with MLS isn't too bad for the NPF.

On the other hand, the WCWS draws much larger tv audience and its tv rating is between 2.2 and 2.6 or so, if not higher, I think. I wonder how it compares to the Stanley Cup Finals or MLS Soccer Championship series:

Here are some facts regarding 2015 WCWS tv broadcasts:

Top Markets (Combined Championship Series Games 1 and Games 2 between Florida and Michigan):

Detroit was the highest-rated local market with a 3.7 rating, followed by Birmingham (3.2), Knoxville (2.9), Jacksonville & Oklahoma City (2.6), Orlando (2.5), Tampa (2.1), Nashville (2.0) and Dayton (1.9).

WatchESPN

The 2015 WCWS Championship Finals Game 1 and Game 2 (combined) has experienced a 120% growth in average minute audience and a 84% spike in total unique viewers on WatchESPN compared to the 2014 WCWS Finals Game 1 and 2.

It's interesting that Knoxville was the third highest-rated market with 2.9 for 2015 Championship Series.

Softball is on the move, and it's never been popular. I expect the NPF tv ratings will continue to climb up and gain more audience. Happy now?

 

[reverseosmosis]

Upon some fact-checking, yes you seem to be right. NHL is a much more established league than the NPF, so hats off to them. But neck-in-neck in rating with MLS isn't too bad for the NPF.

On the other hand, the WCWS draws much larger tv audience and its tv rating is between 2.2 and 2.6 or so, if not higher, I think. I wonder how it compares to the Stanley Cup Finals or MLS Soccer Championship series:

Here are some facts regarding 2015 WCWS tv broadcasts:

Top Markets (Combined Championship Series Games 1 and Games 2 between Florida and Michigan):

Detroit was the highest-rated local market with a 3.7 rating, followed by Birmingham (3.2), Knoxville (2.9), Jacksonville & Oklahoma City (2.6), Orlando (2.5), Tampa (2.1), Nashville (2.0) and Dayton (1.9).

WatchESPN

The 2015 WCWS Championship Finals Game 1 and Game 2 (combined) has experienced a 120% growth in average minute audience and a 84% spike in total unique viewers on WatchESPN compared to the 2014 WCWS Finals Game 1 and 2.

It's interesting that Knoxville was the third highest-rated market with 2.9 for 2015 Championship Series.

Softball is on the move, and it's never been popular. I expect the NPF tv ratings will continue to climb up and gain more audience. Happy now?

I wasn't unhappy originally. I just didn't believe it was fair for you to criticize the other poster with illegitimate facts.

I actually agree with you that softball could possibly see growth professionally. Why wouldn't the college softball audience spill over to the professional game? They are going to have to have more personalities and a better critical mass of teams to gain notoriety, however.

Soccer ratings are odd. They see spikes and regressions. It appears they will never get a serious foothold in the US, especially the national television market.

It also appears to me that the NHL has substantial room to grow its spectator base on television. They are not tapped out, and they could definitely pick up more audience as the game grows. They have all but taken fighting out of the game, so that aspect should appeal to a wider base. They just need more offense in the game, and then they could be more television friendly. The better the television pictures get, the better for hockey viewership.

Oh, and be careful with percentage growth use in support of this argument. If I have 100 viewers, I achieve 120% growth with 120 additional viewers. If I have 1 million viewers, it takes 1.2 million new viewers to demonstrate that same statistical number. That is very difficult to utilize properly in an argument.

 

[allvol123]

You're the one who said nobody. Walk it back as best you can.

People, mostly men, have been predicting the demise of women's sports ever since Title IX. It hasn't happened yet, and I don't think it will.

Wow. This is so dumb. You would have to be the only one that thought I literally meant nobody. I am walking nothing back, you are just not that bright.

Yea, real amazing how something does not die when others are forced to pay for it. Truly some great stuff.

 

[2Alum4EverVol]

Wow. This is so dumb. You would have to be the only one that thought I literally meant nobody. I am walking nothing back, you are just not that bright.

Yea, real amazing how something does not die when others are forced to pay for it. Truly some great stuff.

Just how exactly have you contributed towards paying for female athletes' scholarships, coaches salaries, facility upgrades/construction, travel cost, recruiting expenses, etc. over your life? How much money have you been forced to pay for them?? Please tell us.

It's usually those people who have contributed from nothing to pocket changes towards helping women's sports grow complain and bit** the most. Generous donors/boosters, loyal contributors, season ticket holders, etc., who have contributed millions to countless hours have nothing but praise for our female athletes/sports in general. You are one sorry individual...

 

[2Alum4EverVol]

I wasn't unhappy originally. I just didn't believe it was fair for you to criticize the other poster with illegitimate facts.

I actually agree with you that softball could possibly see growth professionally. Why wouldn't the college softball audience spill over to the professional game? They are going to have to have more personalities and a better critical mass of teams to gain notoriety, however.

Soccer ratings are odd. They see spikes and regressions. It appears they will never get a serious foothold in the US, especially the national television market.

It also appears to me that the NHL has substantial room to grow its spectator base on television. They are not tapped out, and they could definitely pick up more audience as the game grows. They have all but taken fighting out of the game, so that aspect should appeal to a wider base. They just need more offense in the game, and then they could be more television friendly. The better the television pictures get, the better for hockey viewership.

Oh, and be careful with percentage growth use in support of this argument. If I have 100 viewers, I achieve 120% growth with 120 additional viewers. If I have 1 million viewers, it takes 1.2 million new viewers to demonstrate that same statistical number. That is very difficult to utilize properly in an argument.

We are not claiming major victories here. Also we are not here to compare female athletes/sports to their counterpart male athletes/sports. Why can't people accept the female athletes/sports as they are and celebrate their achievements/milestones such as what Monica Abbot just did?

For instance, if I do compare a female tennis player to a male tennis player in terms of each player's playing ability/power/speed/etc, then I'd lose an argument 99% of the time. A male UT tennis player, a college player, whose world ranking could be well outside #500 if he accumulates enough points, can easily defeat Serena Williams, the number one female professional tennis player on the planet and winner of 18-19 grand slam championships. But, the Corporate America and major tv networks executives have not done that. Neither most of fans. And thanks to their efforts, although the true equality has not achieved yet, the female professional tennis players have enjoyed much better financial rewards, greater fan support and broader recognition over the last several decades. That's why a male UT tennis player will probably never become a millionaire whereas Serena Williams' bank account boasts in excess of a few hundred million dollars despite the fact that the former can kick the latter's butt on a tennis court.

Softball has brighter future I believe. It has long ways to go but it will happen. One fan at a time. And one percentage at a time.

 

[LVJeff]

Wow. This is so dumb. You would have to be the only one that thought I literally meant nobody. I am walking nothing back, you are just not that bright.

Yea, real amazing how something does not die when others are forced to pay for it. Truly some great stuff.

You're the one that went along with the claim it would fail. Now you seem to be claiming it won't die.

If your "forced to pay" comment is regarding Abbott's contract - my reading of the article is that the money is from private sources (the ownership of the expansion team), thus, no one is "forced to pay".

If your "forced to pay" comment is regarding Title IX - this battle was long ago fought and culminated with the realization that collecting tax money from females to subsidize events the same females were barred from participating in, was illegal discrimination - discrimination that you quite accurately define as "forced to pay".

 

[allvol123]

Title 9, good grief you are slow.

 

[2Alum4EverVol]

As Cheri Kempf mentioned during today's Ole Miss game broadcast, Scrap Yard Dawgs indeed signed Ivy and Ellen Renfroe for the 2016 season back in April which means that the team will have 5 former Lady Vols on its roster this summer--2 Renfroe sisters, Monica Abbot, Maddi Shipman and Lexi Overstreet. I for one would love to watch these great VFLs play together on the same pro softball team. Go Scrap Yard Dawgs! Win the championship!

 

[LVJeff]

Title 9, good grief you are slow.

I guess I must be slow since I have no idea what you're talking about. :dunno:

 

[Vols4life]

As Cheri Kempf mentioned during today's Ole Miss game broadcast, Scrap Yard Dawgs indeed signed Ivy and Ellen Renfroe for the 2016 season back in April which means that the team will have 5 former Lady Vols on its roster this summer--2 Renfroe sisters, Monica Abbot, Maddi Shipman and Lexi Overstreet. I for one would love to watch these great VFLs play together on the same pro softball team. Go Scrap Yard Dawgs! Win the championship!

Yep by far my favorite NPF team :rock::rock: