More bad news for Republicans.

#30
#30
Wow...guy designs an elaborate computer model to tell us the obvious in 2004 and 2008...

When this guy has a track record of more than two very obvious elections, I will be impressed.

What the hell are you talking about? The 2004 election was one of the closest ever.
 
#33
#33
It has to be top 10 closest presidential elections in history. It was anything but obvious. Hell they didn't even know the winner the day of the election. I have no idea what "therealUT" is talking about.
 
#35
#35
It has to be top 10 closest presidential elections in history. It was anything but obvious. Hell they didn't even know the winner the day of the election. I have no idea what "therealUT" is talking about.

Ohio was the only battleground state that Bush positively needed and got that was close. He won Florida and Virginia with greater than 5% margin (which in recent history is large for both states). Aside from some die-hard Democrats, there were not a lot of people who thought Kerry would actually come away victorious. If your experience leading up to and around that election is different, then we are just from completely opposite worlds.
 
#36
#36
Ohio was the only battleground state that Bush positively needed and got that was close. He won Florida and Virginia with greater than 5% margin (which in recent history is large for both states). Aside from some die-hard Democrats, there were not a lot of people who thought Kerry would actually come away victorious. If your experience leading up to and around that election is different, then we are just from completely opposite worlds.

I mean he won by 35 electoral votes. That's pretty damn close dude. I don't know what else to tell you. I know you wont admit to being wrong so we can move on. :hi:

Also his computer model doesn't take "feel" into account so you can drop it.
 
#37
#37
I mean he won by 35 electoral votes. That's pretty damn close dude. I don't know what else to tell you. I know you wont admit to being wrong so we can move on. :hi:

He also carried 10 more states than Kerry, which indicates that the election was focused on a very select group of battleground states. He won two of the three he needed handily.

But, continue to put your faith in a system that has been around for only two elections, one of which was certainly not close, and the other of which can be reasonably disputed.
 
#42
#42
Why don't you do some research. List the elections closer than 35 electoral votes?

I can do it for you if you don't want to bother.

That is your only metric? It does not consist in how close the voting was within each state?

If that is your criteria, than I accede to your point. However, if everyone was feeling pretty certain that Florida and Virginia were going to Bush, and he handily won Florida and Virginia, I would say factors into the "obvious" category. As I said, I grant that Ohio was incredibly close.
 
#43
#43
That is your only metric? It does not consist in how close the voting was within each state?

If that is your criteria, than I accede to your point. However, if everyone was feeling pretty certain that Florida and Virginia were going to Bush, and he handily won Florida and Virginia, I would say factors into the "obvious" category. As I said, I grant that Ohio was incredibly close.

I think we are on the same page. Also, this is not the only website with a history of getting these right predicting a win for Obama. Not even a close win at that.
 

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