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#576
#576
Franklin Pierce said:
Virginia residents reject massive solar farm plan for third time over environmental concerns

One local landowner said the project would 'destroy nearly a thousand acres of timberland'

A local jurisdiction in northern Virginia moved closer to rejecting a clean energy developer's plan to construct a massive 149-megawatt solar facility on a sprawling plot of farmland for the third time in three years.

The Culpeper County, Virginia, planning commission, a nine-member panel that reviews the county's zoning and development proposals, voted unanimously during a public hearing last week to recommend the facility's proposal be denied by the board of supervisors. During the meeting, both residents and members of the commission expressed concern about the size of the project and its agricultural and environmental impacts.

Virginia residents reject massive solar farm plan for third time over environmental concerns
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curious how much carbon is captured by 1000 acres of mature forest and how that compares to the CO2 produced by a 149 Megawatt coal fired power plant. Maybe somebody has the number but seems like I saw that an acre of mature trees convert about 5000 tons of CO2 per year, if so destroying 300 acres of mature forest would be neutralize the impact of solar generation
 
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Wireless1 said:
curious how much carbon is captured by 1000 acres of mature forest and how that compares to the CO2 produced by a 149 Megawatt coal fired power plant. Maybe somebody has the number but seems like I saw that an acre of mature trees convert about 5000 tons of CO2 per year, if so destroying 300 acres of mature forest would be neutralize the impact of solar generation
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That would require debate sir.
 
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Wireless1 said:
curious how much carbon is captured by 1000 acres of mature forest and how that compares to the CO2 produced by a 149 Megawatt coal fired power plant. Maybe somebody has the number but seems like I saw that an acre of mature trees convert about 5000 tons of CO2 per year, if so destroying 300 acres of mature forest would be neutralize the impact of solar generation
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There's also the environmental cost of producing and scrapping the solar equipment.
 
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Wireless1 said:
curious how much carbon is captured by 1000 acres of mature forest and how that compares to the CO2 produced by a 149 Megawatt coal fired power plant. Maybe somebody has the number but seems like I saw that an acre of mature trees convert about 5000 tons of CO2 per year, if so destroying 300 acres of mature forest would be neutralize the impact of solar generation
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The other part is solar doesn't work around the clock. It unbelievable that all the pro solar advocates fail to explain how shutting down plants that produce electric power around the clock can be replaced by solar. Every now and then people talk about battery backup and never in their wildest dreams consider the scope. Then there's "gravity storage" in mines that nobody really explains. It's like half the world has forgotten (or never learned) the thing about having a real viable and workable Plan B before killing Plan A.

These people are certain that shutting down all fossil power in favor of "renewables" will solve all man's sins; but notice that while they discuss all the carbon pumped in to the air and the widespread disastrous effect, they totally ignore the consequences of changing the solar energy earth receives - what happens to non absorbed and reflected portions or how large scale wind farms could change wind patterns etc. One thing we do will kill the earth but they are sure their solutions will have absolutely no ill effect.
 
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AM64 said:
The other part is solar doesn't work around the clock. It unbelievable that all the pro solar advocates fail to explain how shutting down plants that produce electric power around the clock can be replaced by solar. Every now and then people talk about battery backup and never in their wildest dreams consider the scope. Then there's "gravity storage" in mines that nobody really explains. It's like half the world has forgotten (or never learned) the thing about having a real viable and workable Plan B before killing Plan A.

These people are certain that shutting down all fossil power in favor of "renewables" will solve all man's sins; but notice that while they discuss all the carbon pumped in to the air and the widespread disastrous effect, they totally ignore the consequences of changing the solar energy earth receives - what happens to non absorbed and reflected portions or how large scale wind farms could change wind patterns etc. One thing we do will kill the earth but they are sure their solutions will have absolutely no ill effect.
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I really wish that the people pushing this stuff and making decisions would seriously consider pumped storage generation. It is as "renewable" as it gets.
It is also totally dispatchable with real megawatts produced by real generators supplying real torque and governor systems to respond to changes in load.
 
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#590
This article popped up on my phone last night, so I checked it out thinking it was going to tell us the military didn't realize soon enough that China was a military threat. Not this clown; he writes about one paragraph on intelligence failures in Iraq then Afghanistan, goes off the rails, down an embankment, and down a mine shaft ... no rabbit holes for him. The gist if you can wade through his nonsense seems to be that despite obama/biden and the rest of the green loonies giving China (and others) a free pass on environmental emissions in Paris, the military didn't warn us of China's harmful emissions. There's even stuff in here about the recent storms in CA.

Maybe it's the start of a new trend with respect to failed "climate change treaties" - forget the guilty, and blame someone who wasn't even a part of it. Who hasn't known for years that China is an ecological nightmare? But the military failed to tell us???? I thought by now I'd seen and heard just about everything, but this takes the cake.

The Department of Defense Has Delivered Another Massive Intelligence Failure | The Nation
 
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AM64 said:
You know if you say that's pretty much as stupid as it gets, somebody will feel compelled to top it. Within the last week the Dutch have decided to shut down the largest NG field in Europe this year. You can't make this stuff up; these people are nuts.
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Did not see that.

This is so upsetting. On and on and on like a nightmare.
 
#595
#595
Why Whale Deaths are Dividing Environmentalists — and firing up Tucker Carlson

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The body of a humpback whale lies on a beach in Brigantine, N.J., after it washed ashore on Jan. 13, 2023. | Wayne Parry/AP Photo

Dead whales are usually a sure-fire way to unite environmentalists — but not in New Jersey.

Instead, a recent spate of beached whales in the Northeast is exposing rifts among activists, energizing Republicans and threatening to complicate one of President Joe Biden’s top energy goals.

Since December, at least nine whales have been stranded on beaches in New Jersey and New York. The deaths are happening as pre-construction work ramps up on offshore wind farms, which are a key part of the nation and New Jersey’s climate change strategy.

Why whale deaths are dividing environmentalists — and firing up Tucker Carlson
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Why Whale Deaths are Dividing Environmentalists — and firing up Tucker Carlson

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The body of a humpback whale lies on a beach in Brigantine, N.J., after it washed ashore on Jan. 13, 2023. | Wayne Parry/AP Photo

Dead whales are usually a sure-fire way to unite environmentalists — but not in New Jersey.

Instead, a recent spate of beached whales in the Northeast is exposing rifts among activists, energizing Republicans and threatening to complicate one of President Joe Biden’s top energy goals.

Since December, at least nine whales have been stranded on beaches in New Jersey and New York. The deaths are happening as pre-construction work ramps up on offshore wind farms, which are a key part of the nation and New Jersey’s climate change strategy.

Why whale deaths are dividing environmentalists — and firing up Tucker Carlson
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It just needs one of these:
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clarksvol00 said:
Cause the boomers have done such a great job for us over the last fifty years?
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So you think things are doing better with the boomers retiring? Things went to sh!t when the boomers started leaving the workforce. What do you offer?
 
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