More Market Failures - Pringles

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#27
tri_vol said:
Its a conspiracy to hide the truth. Gibbs will lead us to the light of potato chip freedom.
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I'd have posted more links but was afraid I'd have to adopt a gorilla. Maybe gorillas really dig the hell out of Pringles and that's skewing UTG's perspective?
 
#28
#28
[ X ] Thread suffers from mistaken assumption everyone thinks Pringels are the best.
[ X ] Thread suffers from assumption that, even if Pringles are the best, everyone wants exactly Pringles exactly all the time
[ X ] Thread never seemed to have a point
[ X ] Whatever the point was, it inevitably took a back seat to discussion of Pringles cans, better chips, flavored chips, and of course boobs.
 
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hndog609 said:
The Best Potato Chips | Real Simple

Potato Chips Reviews: Best Potato Chips

The 10 Best Potato Chips

Ok, these were just the top three Google returns on Best Potato Chips. No Pringle's in sight.

So next I tried the other approach and searched Pringles VS. This usually results in a Pringles vs Lays Stax comparison. The first open ended comparison I found was great as it was a poll...Pringles did not fare well.

Ruffles vs Lays vs Pringles vs Doritos vs Old Dutch vs Miss Vickies - HFBoards
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The only one I could find where Pringles were even in the sample tested was on the Hockey blog.

I just couldn't find the competitors in the other polls.

Actually, what is coming out in this debate is evidence of more market failures. Why aren't these super high quality "micro" chips making inroads into market share?
 
#30
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utgibbs said:
I was thinking about market failures, and the example of the Pringles chip came to mind.

Pringles are the golden standard of potato chips. Each chip is off the highest quality and consistency, packaged beautifully (and fully recyclable), all palates catered to, inexpensive (even relative to inferior chips).

Why then do we waste so many resources making other chips? Pringles offer far more value for money (especially considering the consistency of each chip) than any other chip. They taste better than any other chip. Why doesn't everyone then make Pringles? They can't have a patent on high quality, high consistency potato chips.

Why do we want a choice? Pringles are the best value and the highest quality product. They taste the best; they are the best.

Instead though we see a "rush to the bottom" - the cheapest tat chips blanket shelves of the lowest quality and consistency. This is what "competitors" make. It is market failure, and it is the pattern everywhere, in complete contradiction to Adam Smith.

Thoughts?
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I'm not sure you know what market failure is. The ability to choose is not market failure. Choice is market success.

Also it's a very myopic view of the world to assume what you think makes the best chip is what everyone thinks makes the best chip. I personally will never buy Pringles. I don't like the taste that much, and my hands are too damn big to reach in the can.

Peppercorn Ranch Sun Chips FTW.
 
#31
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lawgator1 said:
[ X ] Thread suffers from mistaken assumption everyone thinks Pringels are the best. Or the assumption that people can easily be convinced Pringles aren't the best.
[ X ] Thread suffers from assumption that, even if Pringles are the best, everyone wants exactly Pringles exactly all the time. Pringles cater to every palate.
[ X ] Thread never seemed to have a point Market failures, the waste of so-called efficient markets.
[ X ] Whatever the point was, it inevitably took a back seat to discussion of Pringles cans, better chips, flavored chips, and of course boobs.
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True on final point, but even here we find more evidence of market failure.
 
#36
#36
Market failure - Market failure is a concept within economic theory wherein the allocation of goods and services by a free market is not efficient. That is, there exists another conceivable outcome where a market participant may be made better-off without making someone else worse-off.

Please explain to me how you can take away the chips we eat without diminishing our utility?
 
#38
#38
i've finally understood gibbs. he wants a world where everyone is exactly the same (as long as the sameness agrees with his world view).
 
#40
#40
google "are pringles the best potato chip"

click on the first link - hilarious story
 
#42
#42
Gibbs got me all worked up. I thought Pringles was going out of business. I'm eating some Pizza ones right now.
 
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#45
droski said:
i've finally understood gibbs. he wants a world where everyone is exactly the same (as long as the sameness agrees with his world view).
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Where you been?

The only curve he threw here is I would've thought Pringles was cheap tat. Turns out, they're high quality products produced seemingly by enlightened overlords.

Ironically, they are the prime example of applying mass production to a product. I can only imagine the amount of processing it takes to create the potato slurry that is formed and dried into these "chips". Compare that to slicing potatoes and dumping them in oil.
 
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#46
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utgibbs said:
The only one I could find where Pringles were even in the sample tested was on the Hockey blog.

I just couldn't find the competitors in the other polls.

Actually, what is coming out in this debate is evidence of more market failures. Why aren't these super high quality "micro" chips making inroads into market share?
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Another poll

Poll: Favorite Potato Chips Brand | iVotePolls

I think we've reached the point where if you happen to like Pringles that's cool but there is NOTHING that supports your interpretation of their worth "in the real world" compared to other brands.

Here's an interesting thing I picked up on Wiki:

Pringles have only about 42% potato content, with the remainder being wheat starch and flours (potato, corn, and rice) mixed with vegetable oils and an emulsifier.[15] Contrary to a popular misconception, Pringles crisps are fried, not baked.[16]
They were originally known as "Pringles Newfangled Potato Chips", but other snack manufacturers objected, saying Pringles failed to meet the definition of a potato "chip". The US Food and Drug Administration weighed in on the matter, and in 1975, they ruled Pringles could only use the word "chip" in their product name within the following phrase: "potato chips made from dried potatoes".[17] Faced with such an unpalatable appellation, Pringles eventually opted to rename their product potato "crisps" instead of chips. However, this later led to other issues in the United Kingdom, where the term potato "crisps" refers to the product Americans call potato "chips".
 
#48
#48
Anybody got any feedback on Prell shampoo. Been meaning to try that as well.
 
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#49
volinbham said:
Ironically, they are the prime example of applying mass production to a product. I can only imagine the amount of processing it takes to create the potato slurry that is formed and dried into these "chips". Compare that to slicing potatoes and dumping them in oil.
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pringles have to be the most mass processed chips on earth.
 
#50
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cd12 said:
Anybody got any feedback on Prell shampoo. Been meaning to try that as well.
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seem inefficient to not use prell shampoo. just think of the waste of having both a shampoo and conditioner in different bottles.
 
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