Thank you for another one of your useless random quotes. It does nothing to counter the fact that a "whacko judge" did not come up with the seperation of church and state idea, as I stated.
Just setting the record straight, your reference to Thomas Jefferson and separation of church and state is far more misleading than the 'wacko' judge comment.
You (and your cohorts) need to
read this book.
My quote was not random, it hit the nail right on the head.
Secular Humanists , such as yourself, want the best of both worlds, to silence those of faith while being at liberty to promote their own religion, especially to the youth of our nation.
Secular Humanism is a religion "for free exercise clause purposes," and it is not a religion "for establishment clause purposes."
When secular humanists remove religion from schools, they fill the vacuum they create with their anti-god, anti-Christ philosophy. They merely replace one religion with another.
Although some would deny that secular humanism is a religion, even the Supreme Court has recognized it as such. In Torkoso v. Watkins (1961), the Supreme Court said that "among religions ... are Buddhism ... and secular humanism," etc.
Humanism has its own organized belief system, publications and preachers. Like other religions, it also has a goal: the supplanting of all other religions with its own. It also receives a religious tax exemption. (Free Inquiry, winter 1986/87)
It even calls itself a religion. (The Humanist, Sept. 1984) The title of an article in The Humanist, Feb. 1983, for example, describes the movement as
"A Religion for a New Age." In the article,
teachers are charged with the role of "preachers ... ministers of another sort."
The Declaration of 1980, sequel to Humanist Manifesto I (1933) and Humanist Manifesto II (1973), contains many contradictions. While it states, for example, that tax revenues should not "be exacted for the benefit or support of sectarian religious institutions" (p. 12),
the AHA itself receives tax exempt status.
The Court has undeniably defined Secular Humanism as a religion "for free exercise purposes."
When Secular Humanists want the benefits of a religion, they get them.
But when Christians attempt to get the religion of Secular Humanism out of the government schools, based on the same emotional frame of mind which atheists had when they went to court against God in schools, then pro-secularist courts speak out of the other side of their faces and say that Secular Humanism is NOT a religion "for establishment clause purposes." This is slimy deceitful legalism at its worst.
For 172 years, from 1776 until 1948, America had no problem with Christian religious instruction in public schools, then the 'wacko' justices placed on the court by FDR ruled otherwise. Since then 'wacko' judges have been making more and more rulings that ban prayer, display of ten commandments and nativity scenes on public property, particularly in schools. All these rulings have been based on misinterpretations of the US Constitution.
Your statement about Thomas Jefferson is extremely misleading. His thoughts on 'separation of church and state' had to do with preventing any one denomination being in control of our government and certainly not empowering secular humanists and the marxist tyrants they represent.
The Jefferson Memorial in Washington D. C.
Inscriptions in the Statue Chamber;
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
Appears on the interior frieze below the dome.
Excerpted from a letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800.
We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that to secure these rights governments are instituted among men. We...solemnly publish and declare, that these colonies are and of right ought to be free and independent states...And for the support of this declaration, with
a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
Appears on the panel of the southwest interior wall. Excerpted from the Declaration of Independence, 1776.
Almighty God hath created the mind free...All attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens...are a departure from the
plan of the Holy Author of our religion...No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship or ministry or shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but
all men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion. I know but one code of morality for men whether acting singly or collectively.
Appears on the panel of the northwest interior wall.
Excerpted from two sources: first, "A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom, 1777"; the last sentence beginning "I know but one..." is taken from a letter to James Madison, August 28, 1789.
God who gave us life gave us liberty.
Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?
Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever. Commerce between master and slave is despotism. Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than these people are to be free.
Establish the law for educating the common people. This it is the business of the state to effect and on a general plan.
Appears on the panel of the northeast interior wall.
Excerpted from multiple sources:
The first sentence, beginning "God who gave...", is from "A Summary View of the Rights of British America".
The second, third and fourth sentences, beginning "Can the liberties...", "Indeed I tremble..." and "Commerce between master...", are from Notes on the State of Virginia.
The fifth sentence, beginning "Nothing is more...", is from Jefferson's autobiography.
The sixth sentence, beginning "Establish the law...", is from a Letter to George Wythe, August 13, 1790.
The final sentence, beginning "This it is", is from a letter to George Washington, January 4, 1786.
I am certainly not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.
Appears on the panel of the southeast interior wall.
Redacted and excerpted from a letter to Samuel Kercheval, July 12, 1816.
Thomas Jefferson may not have been your typical Christian (if there is such a thing) but he certainly was no secular humanist, neither was he a socialist and he certainly did believe in the second amendment as it applies to the individual citizen.
"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time. "
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
And again the John Adams quote I presented is neither useless nor is it random, perhaps you should read it and contemplate it's truth!!!!
The highest glory of the American Revolution was this; it
connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.
John Quincy Adams
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