More questions regarding our involvement in Libya

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#26
AQIM operates and has operated out of Algeria and Tunisia for years and has never attacked outside its region; aka, AQIM actually attacks targets in Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, and Mauritania. They have avoided attacking targets in Libya due mainly to both their belief that Qadaffi is advancing a militant Islamic agenda and their fear of retribution from Qadaffi and his forces.

For compelling insight into this, you should look to Leah Farrall.

Around the same time, bin Laden also unsuccessfully lobbied the Egyptian Islamic Group and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group to join al Qaeda’s efforts. And although al Qaeda supported the militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in his establishment of an independent training camp in Afghanistan, bin Laden was unable to convince him to formally join the organization.

The only real success during this period was al Qaeda’s mid-2001 merger with Egyptian Islamic Jihad, led by Ayman al-Zawahiri, now al Qaeda’s second-in-command. The merger was possible thanks to Egyptian Islamic Jihad’s weakened position and its reliance on bin Laden for money. The decision was nevertheless contentious within Egyptian Islamic Jihad, and several of its members left rather than join with al Qaeda. In the end, al Qaeda’s only successful merger during its Afghanistan years added just five people to its core membership. Compared to this dismal record, the past decade has been highly successful.

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Although opening a regional branch and acquiring franchises has reinforced the position of al Qaeda and its ability to present itself as both the senior and the most capable Islamist militant group, it approaches new mergers warily. Al Qaeda learned a lesson about overreach in 2006, when it attempted to bring splinter groups from the Egyptian Islamic Group and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group under its umbrella. In an ill-calculated move, it portrayed the joining of the splinter factions as formal mergers with al Qaeda, which elicited heavy criticism from both groups’ leaders, who opposed unification with al Qaeda. This criticism has, however, minimally impacted al Qaeda’s appeal with its target audience — those already radicalized to its cause but not yet part of the organization — and other groups still seek to join under al Qaeda’s banner. Al Qaeda is nonetheless wary of attracting criticism from other militants, so it is reticent to accept groups that have not demonstrated unified leadership within their areas of operation.

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Obviously not new, but this is important, particularly given recent reports the US is considering changing Sudan’s terror list status.

Around 150 mujahideen recruited every month. This figure is for internal and external recruits. The list of countries includes Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Morocco, Libya, Mauritania, Mali, Sudan, Kenya, Niger, Chad, Ethiopia, Somalia, Ghana and Rwanda.
While I’m a little skeptical of these figures and even some of these countries, this is none the less very interesting. It points to AQAP being a regional hub of sorts, and also attracting people who might have otherwise gone to Afghanistan or elsewhere. We’ve seen quite a few reports of AQ figures or others saying they can’t accommodate a great number of foreign fighters in Afghanistan/Pakistan; in other words they’ve reached sufficiency. What it boils down to is that HQ is the recruitment house for external operations. AQAP is the AQ front of choice.

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I think that Mr. “Mujdeh” does not know what happened in detail, or he expresses a retaliatory viewpoint.
You have a question about two people, Abu Zubaydah (a Jordanian / Palestinian), and Ibn Sheikh (a Libyan), and whether they were from al Qaeda.
And the two camps (Khalden) and (Duronta), and whether the two camps were independent.
Of course I know Ibn Sheikh al Libi and Abu Zubaydah and considered them among my friends even though we did not have work in common.

Both before and during the events of September they were not in al Qaeda. I do not know what their situation was after the incident. Because many of those who were neutral or even opposed to bin Laden went and gave bayah (*oath of allegiance) , driven by the enthusiasm of the success of the September operation.

I know part of the story of camp (Khalden) and I visited it once or twice. It did not belong to al Qaeda. But it was somehow competition to it.

The camp was established by the Services Office established by Abdullah Azzam. And the Services Office after the death of its founder was a competitor to bin Laden and al Qaeda, and more linked to “Abdul Rasul Sayyaf,” while “bin Laden” was closer to “Hekmatyar,” from who he rented the land upon which he built a series of camps in Khost (Jihad Wal, al Siddiq and al-Faruq).
I do not know much about the camp “Derunta.” But information I heard which I think is accurate is that the Egyptian Chemical Engineer “Abu Khabab” was the pillar of that camp and he taught explosives preparation chemistry.

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Latest on al Qaeda's presence in Libya:



Of course, I would imagine that you, through trolling the blogosphere, have much more intel on both Libya and AQ than does Adm. Stravridis.

Adm. James Stavridis, the NATO Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, told Congress that officials have seen "flickers" of possible al-Qaida and Hezbollah among the rebel forces.

At least when Uncle Sam was paying me, it was to gather intelligence and intelligence analysis, what was your specialty code??

al-Reuters is a notoriously bad source for information on the mideast, on par or worse than al-Jazeera (which is the mouth organ of the muslim brotherhood.)

Al Qaida commander backs Libyan rebels in message

Abu Yahya al-Libi urges anti-Gaddafi forces not to retreat; reports of mutiny among Gaddafi forces slowing attack on rebel-held Misrata.

A senior member of al Qaida urged Libyan rebels to continue their fight against Muammar Gaddafi and warned of the consequences of defeat, in a videotaped message posted on Jihadi websites, the Qatar-based Gulf News reported on Sunday.

The message from Libya native, Abu Yahya al-Libi, marked the first time a top ranked al Qaida commander had commented on the uprising in Libya.

No one is saying al-Qaeda is 100% of the rebel forces but to say the rebel forces don't have some al-Qaeda leadership and have official al-Qaeda backing and that some of the fighters are indeed members of al-Qaeda, then one is either lying or has his head up his rear.

You yourself list at least three al-Qaeda affiliate groups to be part of the rebellion.

Who do you say the rebels are and what is their cause??
 
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Adm. James Stavridis, the NATO Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, told Congress that officials have seen "flickers" of possible al-Qaida and Hezbollah among the rebel forces.

Right. "Flickers" and insignificance.
At least when Uncle Sam was paying me, it was to gather intelligence and intelligence analysis, what was your specialty code??

11A.

al-Reuters is a notoriously bad source for information on the mideast, on par or worse than al-Jazeera (which is the mouth organ of the muslim brotherhood.)

al-Jazeera is hands down the best news outlet I have ever worked with and/or watched.


I back the KC Royals, the KC Chiefs, the KU Jayhawks, and the UT Volunteers; I am not in any of those organizations.

No one is saying al-Qaeda is 100% of the rebel forces but to say the rebel forces don't have some al-Qaeda leadership and have official al-Qaeda backing and that some of the fighters are indeed members of al-Qaeda, then one is either lying or has his head up his rear.

Official al-Qaeda backing? I guess I officially back a lot of things. Without evidence of money, men, and equipment, I am going to err on the side that al Qaeda is not involved.

You yourself list at least three al-Qaeda affiliate groups to be part of the rebellion.

Groups that have demonstrated that they do not want to be a part of al Qaeda, regardless of any affiliation.

Who do you say the rebels are and what is their cause??

I have no problem admitting that there are probably sizable elements of the rebel groups that consist of radical Islamic extremists and terrorist organizations; however, I will definitely stop short of labeling those groups as al Qaeda. Labeling them as al Qaeda might be politically expedient for anyone who wants to get Obama to stop his intervention, however, so far it proves itself much closer to falsity than to truth.
 
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and now gsvol appears IN THIS THREAD to debate utgibbs.

To debate it seems we would have to differ, how do he and I differ on what is happening in Libya?

It would seem that even worst sort of fool could agree on the actual facts of the matter.







AQIM operates and has operated out of Algeria and Tunisia for years and has never attacked outside its region; aka, AQIM actually attacks targets in Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, and Mauritania. They have avoided attacking targets in Libya due mainly to both their belief that Qadaffi is advancing a militant Islamic agenda and their fear of retribution from Qadaffi and his forces.

For compelling insight into this, you should look to Leah Farrall.

The difference between AQIM and AQ proper is only a difference on tactics. Groups such as AQIM quote the Koranic verse; "Attack the enemy that is near."

They have no problem with AQ pulling off attacks such as 911 on a basis of violence or harm to others but that it might provoke some counter attack.

You remind me of someone!!!



























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The group calls itself the "Islamic Emirate of Barqa," after the ancient name of a region of northwest Libya, and the official said its leadership is made up of former Al-Qaeda fighters previously released from jail.

We know beyond any shadow of a doubt that one; al-Hasadi, has named himself the Emir that intends to rule in post Quackdaffy Libya and we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a ranking member of al-Qaeda.

Over the past five years, Libya has freed around 850 prisoners from different Islamist groups, 360 of them since March.

Among those released were jihadists with ties to Al-Qaeda's Iraqi and North African franchises, including senior members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) such as its chief Abdelhakim Belhaj.

In November 2007, Al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri allegedly said the LIFG had joined his network, in an unverified audio recording posted online.

Whatever stance one takes on the whole deal is that two facts remain paramount.

1. All these terrorist groups fall loosely under the mother group, namely the muslim brotherhood.

2. The goal of all these groups, including the muslim brotherhood, is the establishment of a worldwide caliphate under which all mankind is ruled by islamic sharia law, if that has to be one country at a time then so be it, this is progress for islam.



LIFG was formed in the early 1990s in Afghanistan by Libyan militants who took up arms against Soviet occupation forces. Its stated aim is to overthrow Kadhafi's regime and establish an Islamic state.

The group was led from central Asia by Abu Laith al-Libi, a top lieutenant of Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden,....

And the Libyan who replaced him in Afghanistan has publicly called on his countrymen to help overthrow Quackdaffy.
 
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Right. "Flickers" and insignificance.

In a political forum he is only establishing plausable deniability.





What's the primary function of an 11A?



al-Jazeera is hands down the best news outlet I have ever worked with and/or watched.

You do know that al-Jazeera is controled by the muslim brotherhood??





I back the KC Royals, the KC Chiefs, the KU Jayhawks, and the UT Volunteers; I am not in any of those organizations.

Do you support them emotionally or financially?



Official al-Qaeda backing? I guess I officially back a lot of things. Without evidence of money, men, and equipment, I am going to err on the side that al Qaeda is not involved.

After all the evidence I've produced that is idiotic.

You are saying al-Qaeda is NOT involved in the Libyan conflict????? Unbelievable.

We didn't advertize the fact that al-Qaeda was involved in Yugoslavia but it was, up to the neck and after the dust settled the mujahedeen and their allies built an Usama bin Laden mosque in Kosovo, which was later renamed due to the political sensitivity of the issue and the hope that they could use the same ruse to overthrow all the governments of the mideast with American and Nato help and establish ones that would be closer to their goal of establishing islamic sharia ruled states.




Groups that have demonstrated that they do not want to be a part of al Qaeda, regardless of any affiliation.

But share the same goals so what is the big deal?





I have no problem admitting that there are probably sizable elements of the rebel groups that consist of radical Islamic extremists and terrorist organizations; however, I will definitely stop short of labeling those groups as al Qaeda. Labeling them as al Qaeda might be politically expedient for anyone who wants to get Obama to stop his intervention, however, so far it proves itself much closer to falsity than to truth.

I differ, I say it's closer to the truth than not.

So you will be happy with whatever radical islamic extremists do assume power??
 
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What's the primary function of an 11A?

Infantry Officers run the Army. As a Rifle Platoon Leader, a Rifle Company XO, an Assistant S3 (Light Infantry Battalion Chief of Current Operations), and Rifle Company CO, I did plenty to collect and analyze intel (more than the majority of MI guys).

You do know that al-Jazeera is controled by the muslim brotherhood??

No. I did not know that. Can you show proof of this?

Do you support them emotionally or financially?

I buy tickets and apparel.

After all the evidence I've produced that is idiotic.

You are saying al-Qaeda is NOT involved in the Libyan conflict????? Unbelievable.

We didn't advertize the fact that al-Qaeda was involved in Yugoslavia but it was, up to the neck and after the dust settled the mujahedeen and their allies built an Usama bin Laden mosque in Kosovo, which was later renamed due to the political sensitivity of the issue and the hope that they could use the same ruse to overthrow all the governments of the mideast with American and Nato help and establish ones that would be closer to their goal of establishing islamic sharia ruled states.

That is interesting. In 1996, AQ only had 30 members. In 2001, it had a core of less than 200 plus a 122 member martyrdom brigade.

The mosque was actually nicknamed the "Bin Laden Mosque" by foreigners due to the pictures of Bin Laden on the walls. This does not mean that AQ was instrumental or even involved in Kosovo (kind of hard to move the network from the Sudan to Afghanistan and to plan and finance attacks on the Cole, the WTC, and the Pentagon, while at the same time sending operatives to Kosovo when your organization has less than 350 people.

But share the same goals so what is the big deal?

If they are different organizations, regardless of the goals, then the truth is that they are different organizations. The truth is a big deal.

So you will be happy with whatever radical islamic extremists do assume power??

No. I could actually care less whether or not Ghadaffi remains in power or the rebels win. I want our involvement to end, though.
 
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And that is the way the cookie crumbles...

Exclusive: Obama authorizes secret support for Libya rebels | Reuters

President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing covert U.S. government support for rebel forces seeking to oust Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, government officials told Reuters on Wednesday.

Obama signed the order, known as a presidential "finding", within the last two or three weeks, according to four U.S. government sources familiar with the matter.

Such findings are a principal form of presidential directive used to authorize secret operations by the Central Intelligence Agency. The CIA and the White House declined immediate comment.

News that Obama had given the authorization surfaced as the President and other U.S. and allied officials spoke openly about the possibility of sending arms supplies to Gaddafi's opponents, who are fighting better-equipped government forces.
 
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Infantry Officers run the Army. As a Rifle Platoon Leader, a Rifle Company XO, an Assistant S3 (Light Infantry Battalion Chief of Current Operations), and Rifle Company CO, I did plenty to collect and analyze intel (more than the majority of MI guys).

What level security clearance?





No. I did not know that. Can you show proof of this?


Don’t Forget That Al Jazeera is Part of The Muslim Brotherhood Northern Thoughts And Reflections

Pierre Akel, founder and editor of a prominent Arabic
reformist Web site, Metransparent.com, summed it up
on February 9, 2006, “When it comes to satellite
television in the region, Al-Jazeera is controlled by
the Muslim Brotherhood.”

A Tunisian intellectual and director of the Netherlands–
based Center for Promoting Democracy in the Arab
World, Khaled Shawkat, wrote about the connection
between Al-Jazeera and the Muslim Brotherhood in
an article for the progressive Arabic Web site
Elaph.com on July 29. “Al-Jazeera has been hijacked
by the Muslim Brotherhood organization,” he wrote.

In an article in Metransparent on December 22, 2004,
the Arab reformist Abu Khawla also discussed the
Muslim Brotherhood’s connection to Al-Jazeera. In
addition, he wrote about the channel’s religious
authority, Sheik Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, who as a
member of the organization left Egypt 45 years
ago, seeking asylum in Qatar. “Arabs turn nowadays
to satellite TV channels, especially Al-Jazeera … a
tool of communications that is so far completely
monopolized by fundamentalists,” Mr. Khawla wrote.
“In the case of Al-Jazeera, preacher Al-Qaradawi (a
leading figure of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood) is one
of its most influential founding members. And
fundamentalists are in charge of its news programs
and talk shows.”

The always eloquent Youssef Ibrahim wrote about
Sheik Qaradawi and Al-Jazeera in his New York Sun
column on Monday: “One of the most eminent leaders
of the Ikhwan movement, who appears weekly on Al-
Jazeera’s ‘Sharia and Life’ program, is Sheik Yusuf Al-
Qaradawi. He has specifically ruled that Americans
in Iraq and Israelis everywhere should be targeted
by suicide bombers, who will be considered martyrs
and heroes.” Mr. Ibrahim also noted that Sheik
Qaradawi “ranks among the top 10 leaders of the
Ikhwan’s international ruling councils.”

This connection between Al Jazeera and the
Muslim Brotherhood is not only confirmed by
Jihadwatch.org, but Walid Shoebat, a former
Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) militant
who converted to Christianity and has become
one of the more outspoken critics of Islam,
stated the very same thing this morning on
‘The Larry Elder Show’. Shoebat also made the
point that the Muslim Brotherhood doesn’t just
control Al Jazeera, but many other Arab news
outlets, including newspaper publications and
radio stations. They are just one part of a larger
propaganda organization.

So why is this apparently poorly kept secret still
a secret? I would imagine it has to do with our
own media perception of not only Al Jazeera, but
the Muslim Brotherhood itself.

Additionally I recently posted a link to an article
that gave the details of when the Israelies released
a top level Hezbollah terrorist in exchange for the
bodies of some murdered Israeli soldiers, the head
of the Lebanese office of al-Jazeera threw a lavish
dinner to celebrate the terrorist's freedom.

There is more in the link that I didn't quote and
there are many other sources that note the muslim
brotherhood is the power and inspiration behind and
in the actual al-Jazeera organization, it is almost
universally understood in the ummah (those who
follow the way of islam) that al-Jazeera is the voice
of the highest levels of islamic authority and all
accross Europe in every major city we now see
what are called 'satellite cities' because of all the
satellite dishes pointed toward the al-Jazeera
satellite.

Note: Ikhwan = muslim brotherhood, in the USA the
front organization of the mb is the MAS (muslim
American society.)

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This is an old map, there are far more of these moslem
groups and organizations here, including one training
camp at Dover, Tennessee.

Not only that but there are many charter schools,
funded with American tax dollars the indoctrinate
children with islamic teachings.





I buy tickets and apparel.

So your point is rather vague then, ie; being a
member of an organization and supporting that
organization are not so very different.






That is interesting. In 1996, AQ only had 30 members. In 2001, it had a core of less than 200 plus a 122 member martyrdom brigade.

The thing is that actually being a member doesn't
mean that membership is isolated because many
consider themselves members of the muhjahedeen
have looked to AQ for leadership, even in 1996.

One key to understanding the whole of the
organizational makeup is to understand what the
term 'al-Qaeda' means, do you know what that
means??







The mosque was actually nicknamed the "Bin Laden Mosque" by foreigners due to the pictures of Bin Laden on the walls. This does not mean that AQ was instrumental or even involved in Kosovo (kind of hard to move the network from the Sudan to Afghanistan and to plan and finance attacks on the Cole, the WTC, and the Pentagon, while at the same time sending operatives to Kosovo when your organization has less than 350 people.

If you don't think bin Laden was heavily involved in
the Yugoslav conflict then you know nothing.

For starters he donated $500,000 to the effort early
on and for another he visited the area, confabbed
with various islamic leaders and held a bosnian
passport.

It was hard to move the network at all, there were
muhjahedeen from all over the mideast, Afghanistan
and from Chechniya involved in the actual fighting.

Let's say your accessment is true that they only
had 350 members at the time. One AQ operative
could command 50 or a 100 of the muhjahedeen
easily, when you look at it in that light then the
effective AQ fighting force grows exponentially.

For instance there were 8,000 who were fighting
in and around Srbrenica, brutally killing Serbs, in
many cases older ones who couldn't defend
themselves.

They are superb in the art of deception, when
the Serbs sent army units to protect the Serbian
population, eye witnesses saw the 8,000
withdrawing the night before the Serbs arrived
but the moslems claimed a slaughter and the
west believed it although none of their graves
have been discovered and after the conflict
many of the muhjahedeen accepted the Bosnian
offer of citizenship and over 3,000 of those who
were supposedly killed by the Serbs have
subsequently voted in Bosnian elections, most
of the rest went on to fight in Kosovo or to
join forces with their original groups.

How many of the 8,000 were actually members
of AQ itself, who knows, certainly not you.





If they are different organizations, regardless of the goals, then the truth is that they are different organizations. The truth is a big deal.

And the truth is that they share the same goals
and only bicker over methodology or who will fill
the leadership roles.




No. I could actually care less whether or not Ghadaffi remains in power or the rebels win. I want our involvement to end, though.

Well we can agree on your bottom line.

Unfortunately we both know that isn't going to
happen with our present so-called commander
in chief.

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#37
What level security clearance?

TS


It is an interesting article. I still very much enjoy and prefer their presentation of the news, though. I don't make it a point to watch "talk programs", so I have most likely avoided any and all radical bias.

Not only that but there are many charter schools,
funded with American tax dollars the indoctrinate
children with islamic teachings.

There are many Christian schools, subsidized with America tax dollars, that indoctrinate children with religious teachings as well.

The thing is that actually being a member doesn't
mean that membership is isolated because many
consider themselves members of the muhjahedeen
have looked to AQ for leadership, even in 1996.

AQ was in the Sudan for most of 1996.

One key to understanding the whole of the
organizational makeup is to understand what the
term 'al-Qaeda' means, do you know what that
means??

The Base.

If you don't think bin Laden was heavily involved in
the Yugoslav conflict then you know nothing.

For starters he donated $500,000 to the effort early
on and for another he visited the area, confabbed
with various islamic leaders and held a bosnian
passport.

I was under the impression that he tried to spend millions in the 1980s to buy weapons from Yugoslavians.

Let's say your accessment is true that they only
had 350 members at the time. One AQ operative
could command 50 or a 100 of the muhjahedeen
easily, when you look at it in that light then the
effective AQ fighting force grows exponentially.

For instance there were 8,000 who were fighting
in and around Srbrenica, brutally killing Serbs, in
many cases older ones who couldn't defend
themselves.

They are superb in the art of deception, when
the Serbs sent army units to protect the Serbian
population, eye witnesses saw the 8,000
withdrawing the night before the Serbs arrived
but the moslems claimed a slaughter and the
west believed it although none of their graves
have been discovered and after the conflict
many of the muhjahedeen accepted the Bosnian
offer of citizenship and over 3,000 of those who
were supposedly killed by the Serbs have
subsequently voted in Bosnian elections, most
of the rest went on to fight in Kosovo or to
join forces with their original groups.

How many of the 8,000 were actually members
of AQ itself, who knows, certainly not you.

You make conjectures that they were, I make statements based on a lack of evidence that they weren't.
 
#38
#38
It is an interesting article. I still very much enjoy and prefer their presentation of the news, though. I don't make it a point to watch "talk programs", so I have most likely avoided any and all radical bias.

Well they couldn't possibly e a heck of a
lot worse than ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC but
that isn't saying a lot for them.

You do understand though that they are
the propaganda outlet for the muslim
brotherhood??





There are many Christian schools, subsidized with America tax dollars, that indoctrinate children with religious teachings as well.

Really?? I didn't know that, I thought
public schools were banned from teaching
anything from the Bible.

At any rate do you really think it wise
for us to fund teachings that unequivocally
mean to bring about the downfall of our
nation??




AQ was in the Sudan for most of 1996.

Bin Laden was there, who knows where all
of his operatives were?

Also, bin Laden traveled to the Balkans
several times during the '90s.





The Base.

And what is the significance of that??

What do they mean when they call
themselves 'the base?'



I was under the impression that he tried to spend millions in the 1980s to buy weapons from Yugoslavians.

Really? I thought it was from the Czechs.

The Iranians shipped a lot of weapons to
Croatia that were forwarded to Bosnia with
the approval of Slick Willy Clinton.





You make conjectures that they were, I make statements based on a lack of evidence that they weren't.

Lack of evidence that we know of, if he was there then he had men there, you can bet on
that.
 
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#41
In what theater??

I do not know where you are trying to go with this; however, unlike enlisted personnel who are granted interim Secret Clearances for deployments, Army Officers must attain a Secret Clearance prior to Commissioning and Company Commanders must attain a TS prior to taking Command. These clearances are not theater specific.

I deployed to Iraq twice; yet, as we were training up for the second deployment, everyone in the Brigade, to include the Brigade Commander, believed that with the new focus on Afghanistan that we, as a light infantry brigade, would be heading their. I sat through countless OPDs with all the COs and BCs across the Brigade. At these meetings, held by the Brigade Commander, we were inundated with intel from the Brigade S-2.

Since there are a lot of Company Commanders who entertained the illusions that we just might be the lucky SOBs to catch Bin Laden, there were plenty of questions regarding AQ.

Since then, I have still been on the government payroll; I still have my TS; and I still travel to various parts of the world.
 
#42
#42
Thanks, just interested.

FWIW, a former member of al-Qaeda who renounced
them several years ago claims there are 1,000
jihadists fighting in Libya and other sources claim
various numbers of jihadists are in transit from
Afghanistan/Pakistan and Iraq to Libya.

BTW, I received a notice you had sent me a PM
last night but when I checked my in box it didn't
exist, I am guessing some monitor deleted it,
if it was anything like some of the other childish
insults you have sent me, I can see why.

FYI, I've never reported any of those to any
monitor, that's just not my style.

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