Most Fascinating Stat for 2013

Are you encouraged by the rushing game this year?

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#27
#27
They aren't deceiving if we beat ga and vandy. They are telling of a bowl bound team had pig not made 2 critical errors. They can be viewed as deceiving because losses trump anything. I think you still have to look at reality though and reality is the stat.
 
#28
#28
Dragon18 said:
This group was/is good on the ground. Don't let the deficiencies in other areas of the game take away from the fact that we've gone over 2,000 and 4.8 ypc in our ground game. No matter how you try to dissect that, it is a good year on the ground.

Other areas.... not so much.
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If we're just talking facts, Tennessee is 54th nationally on the ground and 10th in the SEC.

I'm not saying this group was awful on the ground. Merely average.
 
#32
#32
Jaytrain5 said:
If they could run the ball as well as many here seem to believe, there wouldn't have been so many 3 and outs.
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Playcalling and scheme has been poor all year. Lane should've had 10-15 more touches each game as well. Too many 3 and outs is due to several issues, but not being able to run the ball is last on the list.
 
#33
#33
Spartacavolus said:
Playcalling and scheme has been poor all year. Lane should've had 10-15 more touches each game as well. Too many 3 and outs is due to several issues, but not being able to run the ball is last on the list.
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Play calling and scheme were terrible. Lane is clearly the better of the two backs.

But even if those items were corrected, this group is still no better than average in the SEC.
 
#34
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Jaytrain5 said:
Play calling and scheme were terrible. Lane is clearly the better of the two backs.

But even if those items were corrected, this group is still no better than average in the SEC.
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I don't disagree really. Still could've racked up a lot more rushing yards though, imo. We shoulda gone new age Nebraska on erybody, even being average.
 
#36
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Jaytrain5 said:
If we're just talking facts, Tennessee is 54th nationally on the ground and 10th in the SEC.

I'm not saying this group was awful on the ground. Merely average.
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Yeah we're 54th in total rushing yards, but 80th in rushing attempts. Nebraska is top 20 in rushing yards, similar average, but they've had 124 more attempts.
 
#37
#37
Those stats are VERY misleading if a team runs the ball 20 times during the entire ball game and rushes for an average of 6 yards a carry and runs for 120 yards for that game, that is AWFUL running!!! We might be able to run it almost 5 yards a carry, but it consists mostly of runs of 2,2,3,6,2,3,30,2,4,3,30…..so
 
#39
#39
DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
With all that offensive fire power gone from the passing game it is pretty simple to see why we have struggled this season. Can't replace NFL caliber players like CP, JH, and Rivera...Da'Rick Rogers would've been a senior...along with Tyler Bray with freshman and expect the same results. Simple logical fact yet so many don't want to admit it....or see it :whistling:
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If wishes were horses beggars would ride. ... and ... If ifs & buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas .... stuff like that.

Da'Rick was a stoner and Bray was taking money. Neither would have played.
 
#40
#40
QVOL81 said:
Fascinating we still managed to lose 8 games this year
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Actually we have only lost 7. And aren't you the same troll that said we could kiss our top 20 recruiting class goodbye? Yeah good call on that considering we #2 on most recruiting sites.
 
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#41
#41
Would our rushing game have been even better if we didn't rush out of the shotgun? Seems to me it would. Maybe we would have been able to pass on play action from under center as well.
 
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#42
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Easttnken said:
IMO, losing Maggitt, Saulsbery, and Mo Couch can't be emphasized enough. Then, you have freshman and walk ons filling your db and safety slots.

Early on, the defense seemed much improved. Teams had difficulty running on us. We weren't being burned on deep passes nearly as often. We were creating turnovers, and pick six's...etc.

Jones made the statement that lack of depth was becoming an issue, as player like AJ and others were forced to play 80+ plays per game. Combine this issue with a steady stream of highly ranked teams, and it appears to be a perfect storm to completely wear down a potentially talented defense.

Hopefully incoming players( juco's, freshman recruits...as many being EE's as possible) can lend enough help to not only show improvement, but allow them to continue play well throughout the season.

But then again I'm a homer, so just...Go Vols!
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Well-spake. :hi:
 
#43
#43
Volteacher said:
Those stats are VERY misleading if a team runs the ball 20 times during the entire ball game and rushes for an average of 6 yards a carry and runs for 120 yards for that game, that is AWFUL running!!! We might be able to run it almost 5 yards a carry, but it consists mostly of runs of 2,2,3,6,2,3,30,2,4,3,30…..so
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We are talking about 2,043 yards for the season on 417 carries, not a one game sample size. Therefore, your argument is invalid.
 
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#44
#44
Rifleman said:
We are talking about 2,043 yards for the season on 417 carries, not a one game sample size. Therefore, your argument is invalid.
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So you are telling me that you would rather have 5.3 yards per carry, then be like Auburn and run for about 275 a game and pound the rock? I just do not see how yards per carry makes it effective unless they are running for a lot of yards per game.
 
#45
#45
Volteacher said:
So you are telling me that you would rather have 5.3 yards per carry, then be like Auburn and run for about 275 a game and pound the rock? I just do not see how yards per carry makes it effective unless they are running for a lot of yards per game.
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I think most people would prefer to look at yards per carry as a determination of the effectiveness of a rushing game, instead of total yards. If two offenses run for 2,500 yards, one took 450 carries to get there, and the other took 500, which rushing offense was better? Under your criteria Navy's rushing offense would be better than Oregon's because they have more yards (despite Oregon having 125 fewer attempts).

No one is saying that our 2,043 yards or whatever at 4.9 per carry is better than Auburn's 3,523 at 6.4 ypc, or that we wouldn't take Auburn's running game.

But, considering our meager rushing statistics the last 3 years, a pretty tough SEC schedule, and an inability to throw the football, the 4.9 for 2,043 is pretty impressive. I believe there was only 1 game this year where we had fewer yards than the opponents average.
 
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#46
#46
volfanbill said:
I am so tired of the tough schedule argument. Yeah, we played a tough schedule, but minus two of those ranked teams, we played like a AA High School against those ranked teams. It's not that we played a bad schedule, it's that we had no fight for so many of those tough games.
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Trivialize the schedule all you want but it makes a HUGE difference, especially for a first year head coach with inexperienced WRs and young defensive players.
 
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#47
BigOrangeTrain said:
Trivialize the schedule all you want but it makes a HUGE difference, especially for a first year head coach with inexperienced WRs and young defensive players.
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I don't care if you play Alabama 12 straight times, if you're the coach and you don't have your team fired up each Saturday, you've failed.
 
#48
#48
Stats aren't just about the overall numbers, it's about WHEN you get those numbers. A good team performs when the pressure is on and the game is on the line. We didn't do that this year other than one game.

Padding the statistics against lesser competition or when the game is already out of hand (i.e. we are getting blown out by 30+ points, a sadly all too regular occurrence this season) isn't encouraging.

Our offensive line was extremely overrated. Our passing attack was anemic (due to a lot of factors). Our defense was, well, horrendous - again.

The Big Orange played hard and didn't get it done. As I've said before, the stench of Mike Hamilton and Derek Dooley is strong and will take some time to eradicate. The big time recruiting class is the only thing that's encouraging right now ... and the fact that Riley Furgeson still has 4 years of eligibility. I hope that he turns out to be good or that Dobbs makes masive strides in the off-season. Those incoming freshman are going to have to play right away. Unfortunately, that probably means another season struggling to just get to bowl eligibility next year. Depressing.
 
#49
#49
Orangedogsrule said:
Interesting stat.

Another one is last year our offense put up the 3rd most points per game in VOLS history.

Shows how an ineffective defense can ruin what would otherwise be two good years.

"As Dan McCullers (the defense) goes, so goes the VOLS." (or some such)

Defensive play makers are what is needed more than anything, and I do mean anything.
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J. Smith highly recruited, Corey Miller highly recruited, Dan McCullers recruited, and A.J. highly recruited. Secondary problem imo.
 
#50
#50
volfanbill said:
I am so tired of the tough schedule argument. Yeah, we played a tough schedule, but minus two of those ranked teams, we played like a AA High School against those ranked teams. It's not that we played a bad schedule, it's that we had no fight for so many of those tough games.
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That's what happens when you take knives to gun fights
 
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