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Shaun1985

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Martin is still recruiting next years class and we obviously need upgrades. With no spots open, who do you think is most likely to walk on this team?

You have Washpun, who martin likes because of defense but gives us nothing offensively. If he's not confident in richardson (etc) bringing up the ball to give golden extra minutes then....

You really don't need a Yemi / Miller player when u got stokes, hall, and Maymon. If we were playing Bruce ball, going 10 deep I guess...but we sorta know what martin is about and wants to keep the rotation short. yemi excites me more and has obviously gained martin's trust more than Miller but is very raw. Miller has gotten the doghouse treatment for a majority of the sec so who know's whats going on there....

Thoughts on who's steppin???
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Shaun1985 said:
Martin is still recruiting next years class and we obviously need upgrades. With no spots open, who do you think is most likely to walk on this team?

You have Washpun, who martin likes because of defense but gives us nothing offensively. If he's not confident in richardson (etc) bringing up the ball to give golden extra minutes then....

You really don't need a Yemi / Miller player when u got stokes, hall, and Maymon. If we were playing Bruce ball, going 10 deep I guess...but we sorta know what martin is about and wants to keep the rotation short. yemi excites me more and has obviously gained martin's trust more than Miller but is very raw. Miller has gotten the doghouse treatment for a majority of the sec so who know's whats going on there....

Thoughts on who's steppin???
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check the kent williams on sports animal thread near the bottom on the home page. we talked a lot about this on there earlier.
 
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Miller will be gone most likely. That opens up one.

Chevious possibly since he redshirted? Could go JUCO.

Washpun I think stays unless a big time PG comes around, which I can't envision happening.

I heard someone say on here two months ago that Reese could be a prep guy? Don't know how true that is. I'm starting to think he was a bad take.
 
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i think chievous stays. he didn't start playing until high school, so he's a little behind. i think he has a good upside. if i had to guess it would be miller.
 
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chievous stays, i see no chance of him leaving IMO. there was just a recent article up on utsports about him and ccm being really close. if i had to lay money on someone leaving id say it'd be miller.
 
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Wouldn't it be bad to pull a scholly and tell them to walk?
No one is leaving unless they are FORCED in my opinion and these kids don't seem like they will get into drug problems.
 
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Miller is only here for one more season. Not that it would be unprecedented, but JUCO guys rarely come and only stay one season. Unless he is struggling academically I don't see him leaving. Reese going prep would be the best thing going forward IMO.
 
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Dougie_D said:
Wouldn't it be bad to pull a scholly and tell them to walk?
No one is leaving unless they are FORCED in my opinion and these kids don't seem like they will get into drug problems.
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ask cal about pulling scholly's! it honestly is very common, it usually goes a bit nicer than that though. usually you bring the guy in and tell him that you dont see him fitting in and that you think its best if both go different ways, usually they get the hit and voluntarily transfer out. in millers case if he wants to ever see a college basketball court again he will do the smart thing and transfer to a mid major that is lacking post depth and he can step right in.
 
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DaDuRkEr said:
Miller is only here for one more season. Not that it would be unprecedented, but JUCO guys rarely come and only stay one season. Unless he is struggling academically I don't see him leaving. Reese going prep would be the best thing going forward IMO.
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yea that is the thing you dont want to bring in just anybody because your losing a '13 scholarship whether its a juco or a frosh, ive never heard of a 1 year juco unless they went pro which may have happened before im just not sure. (anyone?) as i said above if miller wants to play basketball he will go somewhere else and play immediately IMO thats the best thing for him. he doesnt have family here so its not like it really is all that big of a deal for him either IMO.
 
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That's the thing...I don't see these kids VOLUNTEER to get out unless it's FOR CERTAIN that they will get a scholarship elsewhere. Remember, how does Martin tell the recruit's FAMILY? If the overall objective is get another scholarship?
 
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OH...also,

I believe it's going to be STOKES.

There is NO reason to think he might be one and done.
 
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Dougie_D said:
OH...also,

I believe it's going to be STOKES.

There is NO reason to think he might be one and done.
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You backed into a correct statement here.
He can't be a one and done. 1.5 college seasons is his minimum.
 
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Dougie_D said:
That's the thing...I don't see these kids VOLUNTEER to get out unless it's FOR CERTAIN that they will get a scholarship elsewhere. Remember, how does Martin tell the recruit's FAMILY? If the overall objective is get another scholarship?
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do you really think a guy holding a d1 scholarship to a sec school cant get a scholarship to a low-mid major school? schools would be lining up outside of gibbs hall willing to pack miller's bags for him, there are always teams dying for big men. heres how you tell the family, "ma'am, sir i feel that it is in the best interest of both mr. miller and the university that we go in seperate directions after the season. i dont see dwight getting many minutes next year and there are many programs out there that he could walk into and start on." PRETTY SIMPLE
 
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Sorry, I didn't know that STOKES can't leave until after May or something.

I would hate it to be MILLER though. Didn't he already go through the motions while he was at PITTSBURGH?!

I don't think CCM is that cut-throat (like CAL)

And I would believe that the teams will BRING the PLAYERS in first, and then ask the players to leave before season...NOT the other way around.

That's what the problem is, right? We don't have any more scholarships to give?
 
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Dougie_D said:
Sorry, I didn't know that STOKES can't leave until after May or something.

I would hate it to be MILLER though. Didn't he already go through the motions while he was at PITTSBURGH?!

I don't think CCM is that cut-throat (like CAL)

And I would believe that the teams will BRING the PLAYERS in first, and then ask the players to leave before season...NOT the other way around.

That's what the problem is, right? We don't have any more scholarships to give?
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dude its not MAY what are you talking about? THE NCAA RULE IS: your graduating class must have been graduated for a year before you can enter the draft. ALSO, you have to be 19 years of age before you can enter yourself into the draft. the draft in which jarnell will be eligible will be june of 2013, that is more than a year away, he will have to play ALL of next season before he can even consider leaving.

and what are you talking about bring in players first and then ask others to leave? so you want to bring guys in without a scholarship? how are they gonna pay for school? and how awkward is that, you bring in a guy in the summer who everyone knows is going to replace someone thats still there?

yes miller has been through this before and i feel badly for the kid but at the same time this is part of college athletics just like when players leave a program without warning. on a positive though, if miller ever wants to play college ball again he will realize he is better off leaving tennessee and going to a different school.
 
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and what are you talking about bring in players first and then ask others to leave? so you want to bring guys in without a scholarship? how are they gonna pay for school? and how awkward is that, you bring in a guy in the summer who everyone knows is going to replace someone thats still there?
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I always thought that the coaches would have a scholarship to GIVE to the player, and then tell the other player already on the team, "You might not get much playing time"

NOT telling them to leave just to have another scholarship. I thought this came up because Tennessee doesn't even have a scholarship to offer?
 
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Miller wouldn't be eligible to play at another D-1 school unless he is graduating this year, decides to pursue a graduate degree, and UT doesn't offer the Master's program he is pursuing. He would have to go D-2, and in all honesty, that would be awful for him. Plus, he would be sacrificing a degree from UT for a degree from a school like... IDK, Montana State Tech? I just don't see that happening.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I always thought that the coaches would have a scholarship to GIVE to the player, and then tell the other player already on the team, "You might not get much playing time"

NOT telling them to leave just to have another scholarship. I thought this came up because Tennessee doesn't even have a scholarship to offer?
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You have to have a sholly to give in order to bring someone in on scholly. You can't bring someone in and then tell someone on scholly to leave. Has to be the other way around.
 
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Don't think Cuonzo wouldn't part ways with a player. After his first year at MO St., two players defected. Doesn't necessarily have to be a dirty move either. If someone isn't going to contribute, I think Martin would have a frank discussion with the kid. Before last Saturday, I would've guessed that McRae would be the most likely candidate, but after a solid contribution, it's easy to see what he can bring to the table if he puts forth the effort. If I had to pick someone, at this point, I'd have to go with Washpun. You'd be brutally thin at PG for a while, until Stanton is eligible (assuming coaches think he'll contribute), and then you'd get Landry in the '13 class. Not necessarily a knock on Washpun, I just think it's less likely that the other scholly players would be asked to leave. You invest in Yemi because of potential, Richardson is an obvious contributor, Cheivous has close ties w/ Cuonzo, and Miller is on his way out. Wouldn't rule out seeing Miller leave willingly if he wanted to go to a lower level simply for PT his senior year.
 
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I am sorry, but I just don't see Miller leaving. Assuming the above I have posted is accurate as far as his academic progress is concerned.
 
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You have to have a sholly to give in order to bring someone in on scholly. You can't bring someone in and then tell someone on scholly to leave. Has to be the other way around.
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I know! That's the feeling I got.

I don't think Tennessee has a scholarship to give? That's the topic of this discussion. That someone probably has to be "let go" to get the PG we need.

And I don't see ANY of these players leaving.
 
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