Mount Rushmore of UT Football

#29
#29
Lofton Jr. said:
whats wrong with phil? 2 sec titles, 1 national championship, 152 wins, one of the highest winning pct. in CFB. i think if low wrote this 10 years from now he'd put phil in there
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The biggest thing that hurts Phil against maybe Majors is the positions they played while at UT. Olinemen get no respect which is what Phil played, whereas tailbacks get all the recognition and fame which is what Majors played.
 
#30
#30
VolSwaff said:
Why???

Doug Atkins played 3 great years at Tennessee.

Doug Dickey turned a bad BAD T-formation retarded team into a powerhouse in 2 years. He even recruited so well that Bill Battle continued to field a stacked team long after Dickey left.
Plus without Dickey we wouldn't have the T on the helmet. We wouldn't run through the T. And we would have been stuck with Murray Warmath in the 60's.
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Dickey's stint as UT's AD was crummy enough to pretty much cancel out much of what he did as coach.
 
#31
#31
UNAVol89 said:
You have to go with Manning, because he's easily the most well-known player from Tennessee New Orleans.
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I changed my mind after thinking about it a little more. I want Neyland, Majors, Atkins, and White, because that way everybody except for Neyland is actually from Tennessee.
 
#33
#33
vtvol98 said:
Neyland, Majors, Dickey, and Fulmer: All four of these men helped shape what Tennessee football is today. Neither Manning, nor Al Wilson, nor Doug Atkins as players did as much to change the face of Tennessee football as the other guys did as coaches and ADs. IMO.
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I agree that what all of our great Coaches and AD's cannot be duplicated or lessened, but I think every coach will say that you need great players to win games. I think that players need to be recognized as well.
 
#36
#36
How about Old school Rushmore V. New school

Old school

Majors, Adkins, Neyland, White

New school

Manning, Wilson, Fulmer, Tee
 
#37
#37
orangesox said:
From ESPN.com's Chris Lowe...

John Majors: A legendary single-wing tailback at Tennessee who returned to win three SEC titles as head coach.
Peyton Manning: The modern face of Tennessee football and one of the best pure passers in SEC history.
Gen. Robert Neyland: The father of Tennessee football who served three different stints as coach wrapped around military duty.
Reggie White: The Minister of Defense is one of the greatest defensive ends to ever play the game.
Just missed the cut: Doug Atkins, Doug Dickey, Phillip Fulmer, Bob Suffridge, Al Wilson.
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That sounds right to me. John Ward should be mentioned imo.
 
#40
#40
BJSforVols said:
The biggest thing that hurts Phil against maybe Majors is the positions they played while at UT. Olinemen get no respect which is what Phil played, whereas tailbacks get all the recognition and fame which is what Majors played.
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Yeah, I see where you are going, but Majors was a runner up for the Heisman. Majors was head and shoulders above Fulmer when it came to football and athletic talent.
 
#45
#45
Vercingetorix said:
Dickey's stint as UT's AD was crummy enough to pretty much cancel out much of what he did as coach.
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86-2002 garnered a 161-51(75.95) record in football. 4 SEC's and 1 National Championship. Im not picking on you but can you name a better run percentage wise from an AD?
 
#47
#47
VolSwaff said:
86-2002 garnered a 161-51(75.95) record in football. 4 SEC's and 1 National Championship. Im not picking on you but can you name a better run percentage wise from an AD?
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Well, of course I could give you Jeremy Foley without even thinking about it. I don't deny that the football team had a nice run while he was AD, but I just think Dickey was a blowhard and a good old boy from the time when being AD was basically enjoying a nice comfy paycheck at the expense of spending some time on the rubber chicken circuit. He presided over a culture in which the cronyism that eventually rotted out the program flourished. The state into which he allowed the basketball program to fall was inexcusable. It's been night and day having a professional like Mike Hamilton run the athletic department, because for 15 years it might as well have been run by somebody on a tractor. He was a good coach, sure, but to consider him equivalent to somebody like Doug Atkins is ridiculous.

(Maybe I was just poisoned against Dickey by my father, who never forgave him for bailing on UT for Florida.)
 
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