Moussaoui Gets Life

[smokedog#3]

alright GAVOL i was just answering questions. i think they should have killed him, but atleast he will suffer is prison the rest of his life.

 

[OldVol]

Moussaoui's Iraqi?

 

[GAVol]

The more I think about it, I'm not sure it even matters. It's not like those that hate America suddenly broke into "God Bless America" when they heard the sentence.

 

[milohimself]

As long as he's not free, it's all the same IMO. Same with any other criminal. The whole point of our justice system is to remove criminals from the world, and death and incarceration are practically the same in that sense.

 

[OWB]

I don't care what they do with him. Just quit giving him so much attention and news coverage.

 

[OldVol]

I don't care what they do with him. Just quit giving him so much attention and news coverage.

This is what bothers me after hearing Todd Beamer's dad. He said he wasn't looking forward to the annual updates of Moussaoui's life in prison. He said his son didn't get to see his 33 birthday and he's not happy that this piece of trash gets to live.

Others who lost family members on 9/11 are glad he got life instead of death.

I respect both points of view.

I wish there were a way we could appease both. When you have scum like this in the world, there's no perfect solution. When you've lost a love one to such senseless destruction no sentence can ever satisfy the hurt you feel.

 

[volinbham]

I did hear some interesting arguments from some of the family members disputing that this demonstrates how America uses the rule of law.

Basically, they felt that the verdict was too PC and that concerns over how America would look to the rest of the world overrode the rule of law in this case. :question:

 

[smokedog#3]

i read that to. sounds pretty correct.

 

[OrangePappy]

I'm pro Death Penalty, but I think this was the right decision. The guy is being denied his ultimate goal . . . martyrdom.

I agree. He would truly win if they killed him, at least he would think so.

 

[volinbham]

I agree. He would truly win if they killed him, at least he would think so.

Hard to know what that jacka@@ would prefer. Perhaps he will have a combo sentence (life until someone inside takes him out).

 

[OWB]

Hard to know what that jacka@@ would prefer. Perhaps he will have a combo sentence (life until someone inside takes him out).

From what I understand, he's going to be in isolation the rest of his life. They're not going to put him around other prisoners. But there are ways around that I suppose.

 

[volinbham]

But there are ways around that I suppose.

You don't want to know... :devilsmoke: :biggrin2:

 

[therealUT]

I'm pro Death Penalty, but I think this was the right decision. The guy is being denied his ultimate goal . . . martyrdom.

If participating in 9/11’s barbarism isn’t worthy of the death penalty, what is? Nonetheless, by seeking the death penalty, the government raised the stakes and created a new battle. America lost it.

The verdict is a barometer—a discouraging one—of how invested the nation is in the great struggle of our generation. Taking the jurors at their word, they didn’t spare Moussaoui because giving him the death penalty would turn him into “martyr” to the jihadist cause, or would somehow be better treatment than a life sentence. Instead, they homed in on run-of-the-mill personal-tragedy factors that are so common in death-penalty cases: Moussaoui had a rough childhood, his father had a bad temper, he was a victim of racial discrimination.

But a lot of people have bad home lives, and don't try to kill thousands of people, or commit acts of war. Treating Moussaoui’s personal difficulties as a mitigating factor in this kind of case is a denial of moral responsibility, and our war effort needs moral clarity.

The Whole Column

 

[OWB]

You don't want to know... :devilsmoke: :biggrin2:

No I really don't. Someone was talking about what life in prison will be like for him. He will be isolated in a tiny cube with no TV or Radio or anything else. He will get 1 hour of excercise a day and when he eats, it's has to be supervised.

I'll admit, I was a little worried at first when they gave them him life in prison. Last thing we need is an Al - Quaeda member inside the prison walls recruiting or brainwashing people who are only in for a short time.

Now I know that won't be an issue.

 

[milohimself]

At least Moussaoui avoids martyrdom either way, whether it was because the jurors had that specific cause, or they just pitied him. Point is, he is incarcerated, not martyred, and out of contact with any terrorists.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Moussaoui will be in isolation for 23 hours a day with a one hour period for "recreation".

Guards will not fraternize with him so his life is going to be a living nightmare.

With regards to the death penalty, how it is set up now it is in no way an effective deterrent against crime.

Death is an easier way out that suffering in prison for the rest of natural life.

That being said, I find it a shame that we, as a country, spend more on prisoners than we do educating our children.

 

[therealUT]

At least Moussaoui avoids martyrdom either way, whether it was because the jurors had that specific cause, or they just pitied him. Point is, he is incarcerated, not martyred, and out of contact with any terrorists.

Enough about martyrs already. Heck, you can't swing a dead cat in Iraq without hitting a "martyr."

 

[vader]

If there is any justice in the universe, all the virgins for these "martyr" a$$holes will look like this.

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