MSNBC never ceases to amaze me

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gsvol said:
I hope you aren't trying to imply that ABC, CBS and CNN are NOT propaganda machines.
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Not at all. I do think MSNBC and Fox are the two networks that are 100% propaganda machines.
All the news networks has an agenda, these two are by far the worse, imo.
 
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Gramps said:
Not at all. I do think MSNBC and Fox are the two networks that are 100% propaganda machines.
All the news networks has an agenda, these two are by far the worse, imo.
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I agree, but one difference between MSNBC and Fox is the way they handle analysis on breaking news like on an election night. They may both have obvious slants, but you'll never see Hannity or O'Reilly anchoring election coverage. Over on MSNBC you get O'Donnell, Shultz et al masquerading as objective journalists reporting hard news.
 
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GAVol said:
I agree, but one difference between MSNBC and Fox is the way they handle analysis on breaking news like on an election night. They may both have obvious slants, but you'll never see Hannity or O'Reilly anchoring election coverage. Over on MSNBC you get O'Donnell, Shultz et al masquerading as objective journalists reporting hard news.
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The MSNBC election coverage is only entertaining when Dems lose. It would be completely intolerable if Dems win. It is pure hackery.

CNN tries to compensate by having a panel of about 15 people evenly divided and it's a giant cluster.
 
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volinbham said:
The MSNBC election coverage is only entertaining when Dems lose. It would be completely intolerable if Dems win. It is pure hackery.

CNN tries to compensate by having a panel of about 15 people evenly divided and it's a giant cluster.
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Cnn is a giant cluster in general

Aimless millions
 
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Gramps said:
Not at all. I do think MSNBC and Fox are the two networks that are 100% propaganda machines.
All the news networks has an agenda, these two are by far the worse, imo.
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I agree that these two are the worst, but Fox still does a much better job of reporting news events and at least attempting to give both sides of the story. For example, I saw a report that MSNBC had only mentioned the Fast and Furious story one time for a few seconds up until Holder's contempt charges. This has been going on for almost two years and it is not even mentioned by anybody? How is that possible unless every single anchor and commentator is told to not cover it.

Curious, how would people rate each on a scale from 1-10 with ten being completely biased (i.e., pure propaganda, ignoring stories, blowing up what should be small stories, not giving the other side of the argument, reporters being commentators instead of just reporting the news, etc.) and 1 being completely impartial.

I admit, I watch much more Fox News than MSNBC but everytime I have ever turned it on to see what the other side has to say, I find MSNBC absolutely unbearable. My ratings (with CNN thrown in for comparison) would be a 10 for MSNBC, a 7-8 for Fox, and a 4-5 for CNN.

I would give Fox a 9 if it wasn't for the Baier and Shepherd Smith programs and the fact that MSNBC is so bad that it cannot be only one below it. I still think CNN is highly partial, but they are definitely significantly better than Fox.
 
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volinbham said:
The MSNBC election coverage is only entertaining when Dems lose. It would be completely intolerable if Dems win. It is pure hackery.

CNN tries to compensate by having a panel of about 15 people evenly divided and it's a giant cluster.
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CNN needs to go back to being CNN and focus onele behind desks reporting the news rather than get caught up trying to outFox Fox.

The only thing that keeps CNN watchable on election nights is James Carville and Erick Erickson. If they ever give those two a show and just let them insult each other, they're going to have a ratings winner.
 
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GAVol said:
I agree, but one difference between MSNBC and Fox is the way they handle analysis on breaking news like on an election night. They may both have obvious slants, but you'll never see Hannity or O'Reilly anchoring election coverage. Over on MSNBC you get O'Donnell, Shultz et al masquerading as objective journalists reporting hard news.
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Truth. I will say, Fox's actual news coverage is more fair than msnbcs
 
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volinbham said:
The MSNBC election coverage is only entertaining when Dems lose. It would be completely intolerable if Dems win. It is pure hackery.

CNN tries to compensate by having a panel of about 15 people evenly divided and it's a giant cluster.
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cnn's election coverage is ruined by Donna brazile's presence.
 
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vols4sure said:
I agree that these two are the worst, but Fox still does a much better job of reporting news events and at least attempting to give both sides of the story. For example, I saw a report that MSNBC had only mentioned the Fast and Furious story one time for a few seconds up until Holder's contempt charges. This has been going on for almost two years and it is not even mentioned by anybody? How is that possible unless every single anchor and commentator is told to not cover it.

Curious, how would people rate each on a scale from 1-10 with ten being completely biased (i.e., pure propaganda, ignoring stories, blowing up what should be small stories, not giving the other side of the argument, reporters being commentators instead of just reporting the news, etc.) and 1 being completely impartial.

I admit, I watch much more Fox News than MSNBC but everytime I have ever turned it on to see what the other side has to say, I find MSNBC absolutely unbearable. My ratings (with CNN thrown in for comparison) would be a 10 for MSNBC, a 7-8 for Fox, and a 4-5 for CNN.

I would give Fox a 9 if it wasn't for the Baier and Shepherd Smith programs and the fact that MSNBC is so bad that it cannot be only one below it. I still think CNN is highly partial, but they are definitely significantly better than Fox.
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That is a good analysis of all three.

CNN is by far the best for "hard news".
 
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I agree that MSNBC is partisan. I mean, obviously it is.

The claim that Fox is any better or more even handed is absolutely ridiculous.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree that MSNBC is partisan. I mean, obviously it is.

The claim that Fox is any better or more even handed is absolutely ridiculous.
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To be honest I think they are when it comes to the occasional hard reporting, otherwise they would trot hannity or o'reilly out there

But I can't count how many times I've seen fox hosts bring up rnc generated talking points like it was their own. And damn near all of them on a regular basis. Once you've seen one fnc show in a 24 hour cycle, you've seen them all. Msnbc hosts all have different ways of talking about how republicans are bat **** and how obama sold out liberals yet again.

Msnbc is populated by idiots that should never be taken seriously, and fox is a full blown republican propaganda machine.

The world would be a better place if both ceased to exist tomorrow
 
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milohimself said:
To be honest I think they are when it comes to the occasional hard reporting, otherwise they would trot hannity or o'reilly out there

But I can't count how many times I've seen fox hosts bring up rnc generated talking points like it was their own. And damn near all of them on a regular basis. Once you've seen one fnc show in a 24 hour cycle, you've seen them all. Msnbc hosts all have different ways of talking about how republicans are bat **** and how obama sold out liberals yet again.

Msnbc is populated by idiots that should never be taken seriously, and fox is a full blown republican propaganda machine.

The world would be a better place if both ceased to exist tomorrow
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I think fox news Sunday with chris Wallace is the best Sunday news/opinion magazine.

of the weekday morning news programs, I think morning joe has the best mix of news and commentary (fox and friends is garbage).
 
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milohimself said:
To be honest I think they are when it comes to the occasional hard reporting, otherwise they would trot hannity or o'reilly out there

But I can't count how many times I've seen fox hosts bring up rnc generated talking points like it was their own. And damn near all of them on a regular basis. Once you've seen one fnc show in a 24 hour cycle, you've seen them all. Msnbc hosts all have different ways of talking about how republicans are bat **** and how obama sold out liberals yet again.

Msnbc is populated by idiots that should never be taken seriously, and fox is a full blown republican propaganda machine.

The world would be a better place if both ceased to exist tomorrow
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do you even watch foxnews? or are you just talking out of your other mouth again?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree that MSNBC is partisan. I mean, obviously it is.

The claim that Fox is any better or more even handed is absolutely ridiculous.
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I'd say it's completely accurate to say Fox is better and more even handed.

Mind you that doesn't have to be particularly complimentary to Fox but rather an indication of how simply awful things are at MSNBC. Want to diss Fox? Fine...MSNBC is worse.
 
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dreVol said:
I think fox news Sunday with chris Wallace is the best Sunday news/opinion magazine.

of the weekday morning news programs, I think morning joe has the best mix of news and commentary (fox and friends is garbage).
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That show leans right, certainly, but its not horrible. If they got rid of Hume it would be a lot better. For one thing, he can barely contain his obvious contempt for any Democrat, no matter who it is.

For another, he has all the personality of a dead turnip.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That show leans right, certainly, but its not horrible. If they got rid of Hume it would be a lot better. For one thing, he can barely contain his obvious contempt for any Democrat, no matter who it is.

For another, he has all the personality of a dead turnip.
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I turn on closed captioning every time he talks.
 
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joevol320 said:
do you even watch foxnews? or are you just talking out of your other mouth again?
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I try and catch at least a little each day to see what they're talking about. Different shows every day.

I have my own set of feeds I check for actually getting news.
 
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Anyone that watches either of FN or MSNBC on a regular basis is a partisan loon. Don't give me the "well, this one is a little better than that one" BS. Both exist only to generate ratings/$ by getting partisan mouth-breathers to watch their partisan, divisive, crap shows. If people want to get news, there are much better sources/feeds for it.

I agree with the poster that said we would be much better off without both of them.
 
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