Mueller Report Imminent

How much did he spend on those shovel ready jobs again? Let's not forget the bailout of banks "too big to fail", car companies, etc ... something like punish the innocent and reward the guilty. He never did do anything to see that those banks didn't remain in that "too big to fail category". US industry is normally pretty resilient and will bounce back with or without government "help" ... government gets way too much credit for that ... all it really needs to do is get out of the way and insure policy keeps friction and drag like fuel cost and taxes reasonable,
Don't forget about giving $4500 for clunkers like this pile of 💩

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So the FBI can just willy nilly open up a FISA into someone to gather information? Because they want too?
Probable cause someone might be talking to foreign people of which our government might have interest. Contrary to your belief, there doesn't even have to be a crime much less proof of a crime to get a FISA. Unless you're having regular meeting with high level foreign government officials, I wouldn't worry about it; and if I was, I would expect it.
 
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Probable cause someone might be talking to foreign people of which our government might have interest. Contrary to your belief, there doesn't even have to be a crime much less proof of a crime to get a FISA. Unless you're having regular meeting with high level foreign government officials, I wouldn't worry about it; and if I was, I would expect it.

No it’s not contrary to my belief there has to be a crime or proof of a crime to get a FISA, that you and I agree on. But to open up a FISA on American Citizens you have to have VERIFIED information that someone is playing on the wrong side of the sandbox.
 
No it’s not contrary to my belief there has to be a crime or proof of a crime to get a FISA, that you and I agree on. But to open up a FISA on American Citizens you have to have VERIFIED information that someone is playing on the wrong side of the sandbox.
Not to the libs. They want to give the government all the power that they can stand.
 
No it’s not contrary to my belief there has to be a crime or proof of a crime to get a FISA, that you and I agree on. But to open up a FISA on American Citizens you have to have VERIFIED information that someone is playing on the wrong side of the sandbox.
You are so wrong on FISA. The only reason it's an issue for you now is because people around Trump got caught up in it.
 
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It always was an issue, the libs had a fit over the Patriot Act, for which they now have FISA amnesia because TRUMP.
It was more the privacy conscious porn watching christian alt-right paranoid government spying FISA abuse conspiracy nutjobs that really pitched the fit.
 
You do know it's the FBI's job to verify the unverified. If it was verified they wouldn't need the FISA court. Sure enough they verified the Campaign Manager, Son, and Son-in-law in fact did take a meeting with several Russian Agents in the hopes of obtaining dirt on hillary and verified that Manafort gave the Russians campaign materials.

Ever heard of the Woods Procedures?

The Woods Procedures were named for the FBI official who drafted the rules as head of the Office of General Counsel’s National Security Law Unit, Michael Woods. In April 2001. these rules were established to “ensure accuracy with regard to … the facts supporting probable cause,” after the FBI had presented inaccurate information to the FISA court several times, with “ncorrect information …repeated in subsequent and related FISA packages,” the FBI told Congress in August 2003. Under the Woods procedures, each and every fact presented in an FBI request to electronically spy on a U.S. citizen must be thoroughly vetted for accuracy, and presented to the court only if verified.


The Woods Procedures
 
Breaking:: @RepMarkMeadows preparing referral asking IG to investigate FBI and Mueller’s handling of Manafort warrants, contacts with media and reliance on suspect black ledger evidence. Just updated this story.



FBI, warned early and often that Manafort file might be fake, used it anyway
By John Solomon, opinion contributorJune 19, 2019 - 10:30 AM EDT
The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill
When the final chapter of the Russia collusion caper is written, it is likely two seminal documents the FBI used to justify investigating Donald Trump's 2016 campaign will turn out to be bunk.
And the behavior of FBI agents and federal prosecutors who promoted that faulty evidence may disturb us more than we now know.
The first, the Christopher Steele dossier, has received enormous attention. And the more scrutiny it receives, the more its truthfulness wanes. Its credibility has declined so much that many now openly question how the FBI used it to support a surveillance warrant against the Trump campaign in October 2016.
At its best, the Steele dossier is an "unverified and salacious" political research memo funded by Trump's Democratic rivals. At worst, it may be Russian disinformation worthy of the "garbage" label given it by esteemed reporter Bob Woodward.

The second document, known as the "black cash ledger," remarkably has escaped the same scrutiny, even though its emergence in Ukraine in the summer of 2016 forced Paul Manafort to resign as Trump's campaign chairman and eventually face U.S. indictment.
In search warrant affidavits, the FBI portrayed the ledger as one reason it resurrected a criminal case against Manafort that was dropped in 2014 and needed search warrants in 2017 for bank records to prove he worked for the Russian-backed Party of Regions in Ukraine.
There's just one problem: The FBI's public reliance on the ledger came months after the feds were warned repeatedly that the document couldn't be trusted and likely was a fake, according to documents and more than a dozen interviews with knowledgeable sources.

For example, Ukraine's top anticorruption prosecutor, Nazar Kholodnytsky, told me he warned the U.S. State Department's law enforcement liaison and multiple FBI agents in late summer 2016 that Ukrainian authorities who recovered the ledger believed it likely was a fraud.
"It was not to be considered a document of Manafort. It was not authenticated. And at that time it should not be used in any way to bring accusations against anybody," Kholodnytsky said, recalling what he told FBI agents.
Likewise, Manafort's Ukrainian business partner Konstantin Kilimnik, a regular informer for the State Department, told the U.S. government almost immediately after The New York Times wrote about the ledger in August 2016 that the document probably was fake.

Manafort "could not have possibly taken large amounts of cash across three borders. It was always a different arrangement - payments were in wire transfers to his companies, which is not a violation," Kilimnik wrote in an email to a senior U.S. official on Aug. 22, 2016.
He added: "I have some questions about this black cash stuff, because those published records do not make sense. The timeframe doesn't match anything related to payments made to Manafort. ... It does not match my records. All fees Manafort got were wires, not cash."
Special counsel Robert Mueller's team and the FBI were given copies of Kilimnik's warning, according to three sources familiar with the documents.

Submitting knowingly false or suspect evidence - whether historical or to support probable cause - in a federal court proceeding violates FBI rules and can be a crime under certain circumstances. "To establish probable cause, the affiant must demonstrate a basis for knowledge and belief that the facts are true," the FBI operating manual states.
But with Manafort, the FBI and Mueller's office did not cite the actual ledger - which would require agents to discuss their assessment of the evidence - and instead cited media reports about it. The feds assisted on one of those stories as sources.
For example, agents mentioned the ledger in an affidavit supporting a July 2017 search warrant for Manafort's house, citing it as one of the reasons the FBI resurrected the criminal case against Manafort.
"On August 19, 2016, after public reports regarding connections between Manafort, Ukraine and Russia - including an alleged 'black ledger' of off-the-book payments from the Party of Regions to Manafort - Manafort left his post as chairman of the Trump Campaign," the July 25, 2017, FBI agent's affidavit stated.
Three months later, the FBI went further in arguing probable cause for a search warrant for Manafort's bank records, citing a specific article about the ledger as evidence Manafort was paid to perform U.S. lobbying work for the Ukrainians.
"The April 12, 2017, Associated Press articlereported that DMI [Manafort's company] records showed at least two payments were made to DMI that correspond to payments in the 'black ledger,' " an FBI agent wrote in a footnote to the affidavit.
There are two glaring problems with that assertion.
First, the agent failed to disclose that both FBI officials and Department of Justice (DOJ) prosecutor Andrew Weissmann, who later became Mueller's deputy, met with those AP reporters one day before the story was published and assisted their reporting.
An FBI record of the April 11, 2017, meeting declared that the AP reporters "were advised that they appeared to have a good understanding of Manafort's business dealings" in Ukraine.
So, essentially, the FBI cited a leak that the government had facilitated and then used it to support the black ledger evidence, even though it had been clearly warned about the document.
Secondly, the FBI was told the ledger claimed to show cash payments to Manafort when, in fact, agents had been told since 2014 that Manafort received money only by bank wires, mostly routed through the island of Cyprus, memos show.
During the 2014 investigation, Manafort and his partner Richard Gates voluntarily identified for FBI agents tens of millions of dollars they received from Ukrainian and Russian sources and the shell companies and banks that wired the money. "Gates stated that the amounts they received would match the amounts they invoiced for services. Gates added they were always paid late, and in tranches," FBI memos I obtained show.
Liberal law professor Alan Dershowitz said FBI affidavits almost never cite news articles as evidence. "They are supposed to cite the primary evidence and not secondary evidence," he said.
"It sounds to me like a fraud on the court, possibly a willful and deliberate fraud that should have consequences for both the court and the attorneys' bar," he added.
Former FBI intelligence chief Kevin Brock was less critical. He said mentioning the ledger in an affidavit for its historical relationship to Manafort's firing and the start of the investigation might be defensible, but any effort to use the ledger to support probable cause would be "puzzling" since it clearly was not needed to strengthen either affidavit and only risked tainting the warrant. He said it could raise questions about why the special counsel believed it necessary to refer to the ledger in the probable cause narrative.
In the end, the best proof that the FBI knew the black ledger was a sham is that prosecutors never introduced it to jurors in Manafort's trial.
Rep. Mark Meadows, a senior Republican on the House Government Oversight and Reform Committee, told me Wednesday night he is asking the Justice Department inspector general to investigate the FBI and prosecutors' handling of the Manafort warrants, including any media leaks and evidence that the government knew the black ledger was potentially unreliable or suspect evidence.
The question of whether the Mueller team should have used the ledger in search warrant affidavits before that is for the courts to decide.
But the public has a substantial interest in questioning whether, more broadly, the FBI should have sustained a Trump-Russia collusion investigation for more than two years based on the suspect Steele dossier and black ledger.
Understandably, there isn't much public sympathy for foreign lobbyists such as Manafort. But the FBI and prosecutors should be required to play by the rules and use solid evidence when making its cases.
It does not appear to have been the prevailing practice in the Russia collusion investigation. And that should trouble us all.
 
I would be remiss if I didn’t occasionally post that “nothing is going to happen “ in situations like these.
Possibly so. If this is true it could help Manafort's case and show just how much more corrupt the investigators are. For the record, I'm sure it is true. Solomon does A+ work.
 

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