Mueller Report Imminent

[FLVOL69]

Good to see you back (kind of)
Impeachment not going so well - I once again over estimated the American public.
Four more years? I don't think so, but I do have that problem of over estimation....I guess we'll see.

DEGU

 

[FLVOL69]

One year. I was wrong. Like I said, I overestimated the Democratic Party

FYP

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

There is no shutting that group of rabid b*****s up

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

That's not happening.
The demographics, they are a changin'.

All the Democrats will have left besides hate for America is some left-over Antifa goons to roam the streets.

 

[0nelilreb]

I would immediately want him removed from office by any legal means available.

Lol Pence being removed would be almost impossible until the next election . If you can’t get Trump removed between elections Pence would be like catching a unicorn .

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Good to see you back (kind of)
Impeachment not going so well - I once again over estimated the American public.
Four more years? I don't think so, but I do have that problem of over estimation....I guess we'll see.

No impeachment because no crime has been committed. Oh but because its Trump, you like to fall back on the guilty until proven innocent fallacy huh? Impeachment has nothing to do with the American public.

 

[FLVOL69]

No impeachment because no crime has been committed. Oh but because its Trump, you like to fall back on the guilty until proven innocent fallacy huh? Impeachment has nothing to do with the American public.

The presumption of innocence doesn’t apply to Trump when it comes to Dems. They’re really going to lose it when Barr, Durham and Horowitz drop the hammer.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

The presumption of innocence doesn’t apply to Trump when it comes to Dems. They’re really going to lose it when Barr, Durham and Horowitz drop the hammer.

Its hilarious. The very foundation of what our legal system is buikt on only applies when Dems want it to. Commit perjury? No big even though there was irrefutable evidence supporting it. Obstruction with zero credible evidence supporting that? Oh well its guilty anyway because its Trump.

Democrats are the textbook definition of hypocritical.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

I think I may have said too much in this thread or I’m being recruited to help Trump in 2020 , this just popped up on my phone ....
Edit : one of you call that number and let me know if I need to move LOL

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Russianbrides .com??

 

[IPleadInsanity]

lol.....Reflect back on the 2018 numbers.
Also, don't forget the fact that dems have had the majority in 6 of the last 7 national votes. That majority will grow in 2020.
Trumpism will be the downfall of the republican party, he represents that proverbial last gasp of a drowning man.
Post 2020, the republican party will re-image itself.

Thats a good point but you are one step behind. Last election he had to emerge from a pack of candidates without the benefit of proven ground force and less than reliable campaign management. It was also his first campaign, zero experience, and he was up against an attempted coronation candidate. Things will be a lot different this time and the current Democratic candidates campaign strategies seems to be "get out the Republican vote". They are doing a great job of that. I would not get my hopes up.

 

[luthervol]

Lol Pence being removed would be almost impossible until the next election . If you can’t get Trump removed between elections Pence would be like catching a unicorn .

I was referring to wanting Trump out of office by any legal means.

 

[luthervol]

No impeachment because no crime has been committed. Oh but because its Trump, you like to fall back on the guilty until proven innocent fallacy huh? Impeachment has nothing to do with the American public.

It has everything to do with the American public.

 

[KB5252]

Well, that's one perspective. Although, there aren't many surprises in this hearing, unless people who haven't read the report are watching.

Mueller has mostly kept his word on not giving his opinion, only acknowledging when things read back to him, are in fact in the report.

The things bother me about the report.

1) How flawed it is as a document as it pertains to DOJ guidelines.
2) The appearance at the very least that Mueller was not the author or that that may not have been his investigation at all.
3) The possibility that the investigation/report was initiated under false pretenses. Still to be determined.

No matter which side of the isle you find yourself there is no way you look at it this and say it was a good look for justice.

I despise Dem and Repub equally though I lean a little right. I am not sure any party appeals to me.

 

[volfanjustin]

The things bother me about the report.

1) How flawed it is as a document as it pertains to DOJ guidelines.
2) The appearance at the very least that Mueller was not the author or that that may not have been his investigation at all.
3) The possibility that the investigation/report was initiated under false pretenses. Still to be determined.

No matter which side of the isle you find yourself there is no way you look at it this and say it was a good look for justice.

I despise Dem and Repub equally though I lean a little right. I am not sure any party appeals to me.

My money would be Andrew Weissmann lead the "investigation and wrote the report.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

It has everything to do with the American public.

How so?

 

[luthervol]

Thats a good point but you are one step behind. Last election he had to emerge from a pack of candidates without the benefit of proven ground force and less than reliable campaign management. It was also his first campaign, zero experience, and he was up against an attempted coronation candidate. Things will be a lot different this time and the current Democratic candidates campaign strategies seems to be "get out the Republican vote". They are doing a great job of that. I would not get my hopes up.

My hopes are up. That's just the way I am, an eternal optimist. The other difference this time around is Trump will have a four year record. I just can't imagine that that record will attract more votes than it pushes away. People are better than that.

 

[luthervol]

How so?

By and large, the house and senate will do what their constituents want.

 

[0nelilreb]

Russianbrides .com??

I don’t know , I get those about twice a month ... the Russian numbers not the brides lol

 

[0nelilreb]

My money would be Andrew Weissmann lead the "investigation and wrote the report.

Can’t like this enough and think you are spot on !

 

[BUBear]

 

[theFallGuy]

My hopes are up. That's just the way I am, an eternal optimist. The other difference this time around is Trump will have a four year record. I just can't imagine that that record will attract more votes than it pushes away. People are better than that.

none of this will even matter if the best the Dems can do is offer Bernie Sanders and Francis O'Rourke. Without a solid middle of the road Democrat you are guaranteeing him another term.

 

[RikidyBones]

One year. I was wrong. Like I said, I overestimate the American public.

Bring an impeachable offense and I'm on board.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

By and large, the house and senate will do what their constituents want.

Please tell me you are joking. So when was the last time the House and Senate actually consulted the American people before making a huge decision?

 

[RikidyBones]

The things bother me about the report.

1) How flawed it is as a document as it pertains to DOJ guidelines.
2) The appearance at the very least that Mueller was not the author or that that may not have been his investigation at all.
3) The possibility that the investigation/report was initiated under false pretenses. Still to be determined.

No matter which side of the isle you find yourself there is no way you look at it this and say it was a good look for justice.

I despise Dem and Repub equally though I lean a little right. I am not sure any party appeals to me.

I'd like to welcome you to the independent club of VN politics. Your bumper sticker is in the mail.

 

[RikidyBones]

Please tell me you are joking. So when was the last time the House and Senate actually consulted the American people before making a huge decision?

🗣never

How can we get public wanted changes on the ballot... I'd like to see if we could get a bill for term limits and limits to benefits on the ticket.