Muschamp makes the difficult, but proper decision: Morrison will play vs. Miami

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Chas in Boca said:
No trolling here. I just wanted to offer a Gator fan's perspective on the issue because Muschamp announced this in his press conference today and I figured our rivals would be jumping on it as a sign of continued weakness in terms of "Gator discipline" as the news trickled out. The point of the post was to let you guys know there's a lot more to this story than meets the eye, not to troll.

In a nutshell: don't chalk Muschamp's decision up to more of the Urban Meyer lack of discipline. We're a different program now with less tolerance of that stuff, but this was a unique situation.
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Unique situation, thats grand. If Florida was playing Miami week 1 he would have just lifted the suspension entirely. :p
 
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TNnative said:
As a Vols fan who usually doesn't give a rat's azz about the goings on in Gainesville, even I was going, "What the heck is lodged in that cop's rectum?' Arresting Morrison for barking at his dog was just plain stupid. Personally, I think Muschamp's reduction of the suspension was A) To give a falsely accused player a break for what he has been through and B) An indirect slap in that cop's face. I have a feeling Morrison's reduction in punishment is going to irritate him. He has the classic symptoms of what I call, "The Barney Fife syndrome."

Here is hoping the Gator's players can manage to stay out of trouble for awhile. Thanks to Hernandez, you all are under the microscope right now, and that makes your all's ability to hold up your end of the SEC emblem a little heavier. So I will be man enough to extend to Gator nation a little sympathy, because the Vols have had their brushes with the law, and it ain't no fun.
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Thank you, sir.

Based on some of the responses, I feel like I may be pretty ignorant about some of UT's own run-ins and it looks like I need to read up on that. Hopefully Butch Jones will set a strong standard and you guys won't have to deal with any of this type of nonsense.
 
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Chas in Boca said:
The first one counts and Antonio deeply regrets the entire incident, but it didn't warrant a 2 game suspension.

He was already suspended from team activities for part of fall camp and had to run stadium steps in The Swamp. He's still going to sit out this Saturday against Toledo and be forced to think about how stupid it was to fight with a bouncer while his teammates are out there making plays.

But to force him to miss out on the Miami trip would be overkill. He's learned his lesson and hopefully we can all move on from this after the Toledo game.
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You sound like Dr. Phil.

Okay if it's 1 game then let him play against Toledo and then sit against Miami and maybe there would be some regret and a lesson learned otherwise it's BS, so please just shut the hell up.
 
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Overheard in Mass Sunday morning that Muschamp is well on his way of the Beatification process.
 
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Chas in Boca said:
No trolling here. I just wanted to offer a Gator fan's perspective on the issue because Muschamp announced this in his press conference today and I figured our rivals would be jumping on it as a sign of continued weakness in terms of "Gator discipline" as the news trickled out. The point of the post was to let you guys know there's a lot more to this story than meets the eye, not to troll.

In a nutshell: don't chalk Muschamp's decision up to more of the Urban Meyer lack of discipline. We're a different program now with less tolerance of that stuff, but this was a unique situation.
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You would be shocked to learn how insignificant your coach's decisions are to Vol fans. Muschamp's rationale for making such decisions about your filthy program is equally irrelevant.
 
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Chas in Boca said:
It's not easy being a NCAA football coach at a high profile institution like UF because you are faced with dilemmas such as this. Our star linebacker Antonio Morrison had a few brushes with the law, was suspended for the first two games, only to have the latest charge (barking at the police dog) ultimately dropped. Yet, with everything that has transpired between Hernandez, Cooper, and all the bad press about lack of discipline under the Meyer regime, it would be easy to uphold the 2 game suspicion as a sign of zero tolerance and to appease the critics.

But it also wouldn't be fair to Morrison, who was unjustly arrested in that second incident.

Muschamp knew he could make the easy choice and hold him out to win some brownie points with the media and our rivals, but instead he made the more difficult decision to reduce the suspension and let him play against Miami. Will he catch some flak for it? Yes. But oftentimes the right decision is the most difficult one to make.

A message also had to be sent to the rogue Gainesville Police Department. They can't expect to harass our players and try to make a name for themselves by getting big names suspended. The fact that the charges were dropped and the suspension was reduced should let them know we aren't putting up that nonsense anymore. They need to embrace Gator football players as an integral part of the community instead of targeting and entrapping them.

I applaud Muschamp for his ability to step back, objectively re-examine the facts, and amend his judgment. A 1 game suspension is sufficient for Morrison to learn his lesson, and then he can be ready to go against The U. Hopefully the media and rival fans will appreciate the complexity of this decision.
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The more difficult decision is to let a star linebacker play in the first real test of the season? OK. If you say so.
 
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This thread gave me a laugh. In all honesty the gators have always been afraid of the canes. Enough said
 
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Chas in Boca said:
It's not easy being a NCAA football coach at a high profile institution like UF because you are faced with dilemmas such as this. Our star linebacker Antonio Morrison had a few brushes with the law, was suspended for the first two games, only to have the latest charge (barking at the police dog)...
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:question:

Do y'all seriously not have anything better to do down there?
 
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Knock Knock.
Who's there?
Gainesville PD.
Why?
Because we hate the gators.
Okay. Join the crowd.


Yeah, makes sense.
 
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Yeah about this....
It would take more courage and gumption to suspend a kid for the Miami game, than to let him come back for your first real challenging game
 
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Chas in Boca said:
I just think that sometimes Tennessee fans look at our legal issues and don't fully appreciate the challenges of dealing with a smaller community police department.

UT is located in Knoxville, which is a decent size city. It has an urban feel and is not a little town like Gainesville or Tuscaloosa. I remember seeing an interview with Chamique Holdsclaw on ESPN about her recruitment to UT from NYC, and she said there were parts of Knoxville that reminded her of Queens. The point is that your city's police department is more professional and has bigger fish to fry than chasing around the local star athletes. Programs like us and Bama have to deal with backwood cops looking to score a headline by bagging the star player. It's just a different dynamic when you're talking about a small college town.

Part of being the coach of these high profile programs located in small college towns is protecting your players and sending a message to the community that they won't tolerate the harassment from these cops with nothing better to do on a Friday night. That's why Muschamp had to make this decision and protect Morrison from overly punished.

The Gator Nation supports player discipline when they make bad decisions, but we want it to be fair. I think Muschamp got it right in this one.
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Gainsville a little town? I knew you were some kinda fraud before your third post. Gainsville is called home to over 126,000 people. While knoxville is a little over 185k I would say knoxville is a huge city compared to gainsville. I've even driven through Gator land during rush hour, it sucks. Go home chas, actually go somewhere else because I live in florida and I don't want you here.
 
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Chas in Boca said:
The first one counts and Antonio deeply regrets the entire incident, but it didn't warrant a 2 game suspension.

He was already suspended from team activities for part of fall camp and had to run stadium steps in The Swamp. He's still going to sit out this Saturday against Toledo and be forced to think about how stupid it was to fight with a bouncer while his teammates are out there making plays.

But to force him to miss out on the Miami trip would be overkill. He's learned his lesson and hopefully we can all move on from this after the Toledo game.
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Hilarity ensued this post/justification.
 
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Chas in Boca said:
The first one counts and Antonio deeply regrets the entire incident, but it didn't warrant a 2 game suspension.

He was already suspended from team activities for part of fall camp and had to run stadium steps in The Swamp. He's still going to sit out this Saturday against Toledo and be forced to think about how stupid it was to fight with a bouncer while his teammates are out there making plays.

But to force him to miss out on the Miami trip would be overkill. He's learned his lesson and hopefully we can all move on from this after the Toledo game.
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He didn't fight a bouncer. He sucker punched him. That is assault and battery not a fight.
 
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Chas in Boca said:
No trolling here. I just wanted to offer a Gator fan's perspective on the issue because Muschamp announced this in his press conference today and I figured our rivals would be jumping on it as a sign of continued weakness in terms of "Gator discipline" as the news trickled out. The point of the post was to let you guys know there's a lot more to this story than meets the eye, not to troll.

In a nutshell: don't chalk Muschamp's decision up to more of the Urban Meyer lack of discipline. We're a different program now with less tolerance of that stuff, but this was a unique situation.
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Defensiveness: the last refuge for those who deep down know that they are COMPLETELY WRONG.
 
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Chas in Boca said:
The first one counts and Antonio deeply regrets the entire incident, but it didn't warrant a 2 game suspension.

He was already suspended from team activities for part of fall camp and had to run stadium steps in The Swamp. He's still going to sit out this Saturday against Toledo and be forced to think about how stupid it was to fight with a bouncer while his teammates are out there making plays.

But to force him to miss out on the Miami trip would be overkill. He's learned his lesson and hopefully we can all move on from this after the Toledo game.
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I think the gator fans that started the Fulmer Cup should rename it and call it the Urban Meyer Cup. Perhaps put a little honorable mention to Charley Pell on the side or bottom. What do you think?
 
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Boca, This also had a lot to do with the Hurricanes, the injury bug and Muschamps fear of maybe dropping that game. That's about all.
 
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I thought there was a "rule" that you had to have over 100 posts to start a thread.

After this start, it seems like a good idea.
 
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