My Observations

#26
#26
kptvol said:
I think the linebackers are the highpoint of our defense. Mayo and Mitchell have been really solid. Ryan Karl has been pretty great at times.
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What I meant to say was that the front seven are not stopping the run enough by themselves. The secondary is far too involved in stopping the run.

But Lexvol just said that:crazy:

rockydoc said:
When is this sacred cow, Chavis, going to accept any responsibility?
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Chavis is a top notch DC that is short on ammunition at the moment. The defense could have made more plays to win the ballgame, but I don't understand the the call for the guy to fall on his sword or cut off his pinky finger in dishonor.
 
#27
#27
if we had LSU's talent, we're undefeated and heading toward a game against Ohio State.
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If we had an average to good running game and a couple of big time players on the defensive line, we'd be undefeated right now..
 
#28
#28
OWB said:
If we had an average to good running game and a couple of big time players on the defensive line, we'd be undefeated right now..
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I don't that is all that far fetched to say. The fact is we've blown two second half 10 point leads. A decent running game could have gone a long way in shortening those games.
 
#29
#29
rexvol said:
Miles is a complete idiot, his name is appropriate as he does less with more than anybody since Johnny Majors
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Got any examples of bad coaching? Miles is winning at a 78% clip. How well does a guy have to do?
 
#30
#30
Unfortunately beating UT gave LSU credibility. In the AP LSU is ranked 12th and UT is ranked 13th.
 
#31
#31
rexvol said:
if we had LSU's talent, we're undefeated and heading toward a game against Ohio State.
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It's funny--I was just having this conversation over lunch. I have seen a handful of national championship caliber teams live and in person--Bama '92, Florida '95 (runner up,) Nebraska '97, UT '98, , Miami '02 (runner up,) Auburn '04 twice (undefeated,) so I feel like I have a decent feel for what kind of talent it takes to be competitive on that level.

From what I saw Saturday, LSU has that kind of talent. Tennessee does not, although we did play well enough to beat a team that did.
 
#32
#32
cotton said:
It's funny--I was just having this conversation over lunch. I have seen a handful of national championship caliber teams live and in person--Bama '92, Florida '95 (runner up,) Nebraska '97, UT '98, , Miami '02 (runner up,) Auburn '04 twice (undefeated,) so I feel like I have a decent feel for what kind of talent it takes to be competitive on that level.

For what I saw Saturday, LSU has that kind of talent. Tennessee does not, although we did play well enough to beat a team that did.
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Cotton, you are on a roll in Hoptown today buddy. Keep it up.
 
#33
#33
Lexvol said:
Cotton, you are on a roll in Hoptown today buddy. Keep it up.
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Sometimes the stars align and Western Kentucky receives a glimmer of insight:alien:



crimedawg12 said:
I hate that "its not a prevent,its a mustang package" defense!
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I think we were afraid to press all over the field, and it was certainly disappointing that we didn't get any more pressure on Russell.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned, though, was that our "prowl" package created several penalties (delays and false starts) or caused LSU to use time outs. I don't remember if we were "prowling" on any of the interceptions.
 
#34
#34
crimedawg12 said:
Our defense is Dr Jekyl/Mr. Hyde! I hate that "its not a prevent,its a mustang package" defense! How does a Qb have that much time and have 2 wrs in the same spot wide open?
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That makes me think of the UGA game in 2003 (I think). It was a gorgeous day weather-wise with a Noon start time but that game makes me cringe everytime I think about it. One of the quickest high-to-low emotions I have experienced. UGA marches right down and scored on a pass to the FB, all in what, less than a minute?:cray:


cotton said:
From what I saw Saturday, LSU has that kind of talent. Tennessee does not, although we did play well enough to beat a team that did.
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We played well enough to beat a championship caliber team?
 
#35
#35
A touchdown at the end of the first half and and Wilhoit making that FG and it's a different game..

Oh well..
 
#37
#37
OWB said:
A touchdown at the end of the first half and and Wilhoit making that FG and it's a different game..

Oh well..
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Two yards on a 2 point conversion and we have 3 losses. What if's are just that.


cotton said:
We played well enough to beat a team with championship level talent.
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Sorry Cotton, first comment I have disagreed with you on. We couldn't even pull out a win when the opposing QB was trying to give it to us. I was pretty disappointed in our play on Saturday. We have the talent to play with the top teams (like we played vs Cal) but our play on Saturday wouldn't have beat OSU or Michigan (just picked the top two teams) IMO.
 
#38
#38
Gcrop said:
That makes me think of the UGA game in 2003 (I think). It was a gorgeous day weather-wise with a Noon start time but that game makes me cringe everytime I think about it. One of the quickest high-to-low emotions I have experienced. UGA marches right down and scored on a pass to the FB, all in what, less than a minute?:cray:



We played well enough to beat a championship caliber team?
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It was 2001, just FYI. :)
 
#41
#41
Gcrop said:
Sorry Cotton, first comment I have disagreed with you on. We couldn't even pull out a win when the opposing QB was trying to give it to us. I was pretty disappointed in our play on Saturday. We have the talent to play with the top teams (like we played vs Cal) but our play on Saturday wouldn't have beat OSU or Michigan (just picked the top two teams) IMO.
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Eh, you can't please all of the people all of the time, even on election day.

I don't think we are really disagreeing, though. I agree think if LSU plays mistake free, they beat us by a couple of touchdowns, and OSU probably does the same (I'm not quite sold on Michigan just yet.) When the other guy has more talent and his level of play is the same or better than yours, you are probably going to get beat.

My point was that although we appeared to me to be a little short on the talent side, we made timely plays to capitalize on mistakes, caused a few through schemes and athletic play, didn't make many ourselves, and took advantage of the areas where we had a talent advantage, which gave us a chance to win the ballgame.

That LSU squad has the horses to compete, IMO, with the championship teams I mentioned earlier in the post. I don't think we are quite on that level, but we played well enough to give ourselves a chance to win the game. Obviously, that was just short of playing well enough to actually win it.
 
#42
#42
cotton said:
Eh, you can't please all of the people all of the time, even on election day.

I don't think we are really disagreeing, though. I agree think if LSU plays mistake free, they beat us by a couple of touchdowns, and OSU probably does the same (I'm not quite sold on Michigan just yet.) When the other guy has more talent and his level of play is the same or better than yours, you are probably going to get beat.

My point was that although we appeared to me to be a little short on the talent side, we made timely plays to capitalize on mistakes, caused a few through schemes and athletic play, didn't make many ourselves, and took advantage of the areas where we had a talent advantage, which gave us a chance to win the ballgame.

That LSU squad has the horses to compete, IMO, with the championship teams I mentioned earlier in the post. I don't think we are quite on that level, but we played well enough to give ourselves a chance to win the game. Obviously, that was just short of playing well enough to actually win it.
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I tend to agree with you on this...if they don't turn the ball over 4 times....they could have won by 2 or more TD's. their mistakes/our good defensive plays, helped us stayin the game..we had what, 17 pts off of turnovers? only one true offensive TD...i think that says a lot about both teams..good and bad.
 
#43
#43
jakez4ut said:
I tend to agree with you on this...if they don't turn the ball over 4 times....they could have won by 2 or more TD's. their mistakes/our good defensive plays, helped us stayin the game..we had what, 17 pts off of turnovers? only one true offensive TD...i think that says a lot about both teams..good and bad.
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It would have been nice to see Crompton get the chance to be a freshman QB hero at the end of the game, much like David Greene was for Georgia in 2001. Unfortunately, our coaches thought it would be nicer to not call our timeouts on LSU's last possession.
 
#44
#44
kptvol said:
It would have been nice to see Crompton get the chance to be a freshman QB hero at the end of the game, much like David Greene was for Georgia in 2001. Unfortunately, our coaches thought it would be nicer to not call our timeouts on LSU's last possession.
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I don't really have a problem with that strategy.

After the 4th and 8 conversion, the clock was at least as big of an enemy to LSU than it was to us until Russell stepped out of bounds on 2nd down stopping it. They were in field goal range, and we needed to keep them out of the endzone and force the kick attempt. This meant 1) running them out of downs, or 2) running them out of time. If 3 points would have won it for them, then I agree, we should have used the TOs. Since it was a FG to tie situation, I don't think that was mismanaged.
 
#45
#45
kptvol said:
It would have been nice to see Crompton get the chance to be a freshman QB hero at the end of the game, much like David Greene was for Georgia in 2001. Unfortunately, our coaches thought it would be nicer to not call our timeouts on LSU's last possession.
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All that aside, stop them on 4th and 8, and it's not an issue. the clock was their enemy after that, and had it not been for Russell stepping out of bounds....who knows...probably would have gone to overtime.

so from that standpoint...i don't have a real issue with the clock management.

my problem is with the D. 4th and 8. game over. ugh.
 
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