My SEC vs BIG10 comparisons have turned out OK..

[GUNTERSVOL]

We are 3-1 vs the Big10 with our only loss in the lowest rated bowl between us with a portal decimated 7-5 going in KY being the only loss. Was surprised but happy that TCU pulled off that late miracle win so I can now pull for them to beat GA to keep them more humble.... GA squeaked by OSU , LSU double smoked Purdue, and MS ST pulled out one for MIKE over ILL.

I had so feared a OSU MICH final would create a constant media biased Big10 has passed the SEC narrative. Bet we hear crickets now in the post season reviews. They cannot overcome these outcomes even if they are propped up and ranked higher than Bama and UT.

Some really great late game heroics to watch in some bowls.

 

[VolBricks]

B1G<SEC

 

[EZE]

We are 3-1 vs the Big10 with our only loss in the lowest rated bowl between us with a portal decimated 7-5 going in KY being the only loss. Was surprised but happy that TCU pulled off that late miracle win so I can now pull for them to beat GA to keep them more humble.... GA squeaked by OSU , LSU double smoked Purdue, and MS ST pulled out one for MIKE over ILL.

I had so feared a OSU MICH final would create a constant media biased Big10 has passed the SEC narrative. Bet we hear crickets now in the post season reviews. They cannot overcome these outcomes even if they are propped up and ranked higher than Bama and UT.

Some really great late game heroics to watch in some bowls.

The top of the SEC showed out in this bowl season. Ga, Tn, Al and LSU have left little doubt about where the truly elite football is played.

You could make a very compelling argument that the top three best teams in the country are in the SEC.

 

[sjt18]

My argument with Big 10 fans all year was that Michigan and OSU had played weak competition. If they'd played better competition then one or maybe both wouldn't have made it in. By playing weak competition they weren't ready to play powerful opponents.

 

[perico]

The b1g is maybe the 3rd best league this year, but it’s a wash between them, the ACC, and the pac 12. They are the most top heavy league in the country.

Even if you consider TCU to be kind of a fluke to beat Michigan, it doesn’t negate the fact that from top to bottom this year, the Big XII was a much tougher conference than the B1G. The B1G was like a poor man’s SEC. Two elite teams, one good team, 2-3 mediocre teams, and 1-2 middlng to bad teams, and then 4-5 teams that would lose to Vandy.

 

[swampfoxfan]

The top of the SEC showed out in this bowl season. Ga, Tn, Al and LSU have left little doubt about where the truly elite football is played.

You could make a very compelling argument that the top three best teams in the country are in the SEC.

No argument about it. I fully agree with you

 

[Carp]

My argument with Big 10 fans all year was that Michigan and OSU had played weak competition. If they'd played better competition then one or maybe both wouldn't have made it in. By playing weak competition they weren't ready to play powerful opponents.

OSU played UGA better than any team this year. If Ryan Day coached a little better or if Harrison doesn't get injured, they'd be in LA instead of UGA. I still think they're the better team, mostly because Stroud is about 1000x better than wonder bread Bennett. But I digress.


That being said, the B1G was top heavy. OSU, Michigan, and Penn State were the only good teams they had. And their bad teams were really, really bad.

 

[TheFlash1971]

Both conferences are top heavy . OSU and Alabama both curb stomped their opponents for about 12-15 yrs until Ga , Mi , LSU had a couple good years.
OSU has usually been the only BiGTen team that has good defensive speed with decent oline.
We are finally back just need another great recruiting class to add depth.
OhioState and Ga was a great game.
Purdue, Illinois, Iowa , Kentucky, Miss State we’re not very good teams . Mid tier SEC and BiGTen schools are never going to win Nattys. They are what they are and always will be.

 

[TheFlash1971]

Greg McElroy is a funny guy . He says that if Georgia plays their A game they will win . So is TCU plays their A game we should have a tie game.
Dumbest statement in history of sports. If ga blocks , tackles, catches and throws to their best ability against a team that does the same score should be tied 0-0

 

[Sea Ray]

I wouldn't lump PSU in with OSU and MI. Think of all the close and impactful games we had here in the SEC this year...Alabama/Ole Miss. Alabama/LSU. Alabama/UT. Ga/UT. Unfortunately UT/SC. Ohio State was favored by at least 2 TDs (14 pts) in ALL of their games this year except MI. This includes the opener vs ND. Michigan's schedule was even easier.

OK, that's boring football for a fan. Look at recruiting in the Big Ten. OSU is the only Big Ten team in the top ten. Hell, even South Carolina out-recruited Michigan in 2023 according to 247.

So tell me, which conference is more fun to be a fan of? SEC...SEC

 

[pimo1]

OSU played UGA better than any team this year. If Ryan Day coached a little better or if Harrison doesn't get injured, they'd be in LA instead of UGA. I still think they're the better team, mostly because Stroud is about 1000x better than wonder bread Bennett. But I digress.


That being said, the B1G was top heavy. OSU, Michigan, and Penn State were the only good teams they had. And their bad teams were really, really bad.

I have been one of his biggest detractors but it's about time someone gave Bennett his flowers. If he a great QB? Nope. But the dude has earned some level of respect he went from walkon to the man and all hea done since then is win. It's easy to say plug in great QB x or y and GA would just chug along or be better.. and that may be true but we don't know that. It's not like they win in spite of him. He plays a role. Do I think he deserved to be in the Heisman conversation over Hooker? Hell no.

As far as OSU vs UGA until Harrison got hurt that's the first time in 2 seasons I saw the UGA defense look lost. They had no answers. That being said UGA did well against the OSU defense also. It was an amazing game on a weekend of amazing games.

I can see I'm probably in the minority but I would much rather UGA win out and the SEC get the shine than hear everyone fawn over Cinderella TCU all off-season. I hate Georgia and Bama and Florida but those are our weird cousins. They are still family like it or not. Them being good validates our schedule. I don't ever root against SEC teams unless they are playing us for that reason. In conference games are a wash but I want them to lose all games to us and win against all other conferences.

 

[TheFlash1971]

I have been one of his biggest detractors but it's about time someone gave Bennett his flowers. If he a great QB? Nope. But the dude has earned some level of respect he went from walkon to the man and all hea done since then is win. It's easy to say plug in great QB x or y and GA would just chug along or be better.. and that may be true but we don't know that. It's not like they win in spite of him. He plays a role. Do I think he deserved to be in the Heisman conversation over Hooker? Hell no.

As far as OSU vs UGA until Harrison got hurt that's the first time in 2 seasons I saw the UGA defense look lost. They had no answers. That being said UGA did well against the OSU defense also. It was an amazing game on a weekend of amazing games.

I can see I'm probably in the minority but I would much rather UGA win out and the SEC get the shine than hear everyone fawn over Cinderella TCU all off-season. I hate Georgia and Bama and Florida but those are our weird cousins. They are still family like it or not. Them being good validates our schedule. I don't ever root against SEC teams unless they are playing us for that reason. In conference games are a wash but I want them to lose all games to us and win against all other conferences.

F***Georgia. Hope they get trounced.

 

[TheFlash1971]

F***Georgia. Hope they get trounced.

Every conference is top heavy and the rest get their occasional upset. Same goes for ours. Ala has curb stomped this conference for the last 12 years. So I’m not drinking the tough conference koolaid. If it was tough you wouldn’t be curb stomping teams by 30-40 points.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

My argument with Big 10 fans all year was that Michigan and OSU had played weak competition. If they'd played better competition then one or maybe both wouldn't have made it in. By playing weak competition they weren't ready to play powerful opponents.

OSU was kicking the dog $h!t out of uga, so I don't think your argument is 100% valid.

 

[pimo1]

Every conference is top heavy and the rest get their occasional upset. Same goes for ours. Ala has curb stomped this conference for the last 12 years. So I’m not drinking the tough conference koolaid. If it was tough you wouldn’t be curb stomping teams by 30-40 points.

That is not true....the SEC is the only conference where the vast majority of teams are bowl-eligible end of the season every single year. The 3 worst teams in the SEC this year were 5-7. 11-14 bowl eligible. and 9 of 14 ended with winning records. end of season ranking probably end up with 7 to 9 SEC teams in the top 25. The SEC is different and that's why it matters that teams here win OOC games.

 

[Frozevol]

I have been one of his biggest detractors but it's about time someone gave Bennett his flowers. If he a great QB? Nope. But the dude has earned some level of respect he went from walkon to the man and all hea done since then is win. It's easy to say plug in great QB x or y and GA would just chug along or be better.. and that may be true but we don't know that. It's not like they win in spite of him. He plays a role. Do I think he deserved to be in the Heisman conversation over Hooker? Hell no.

As far as OSU vs UGA until Harrison got hurt that's the first time in 2 seasons I saw the UGA defense look lost. They had no answers. That being said UGA did well against the OSU defense also. It was an amazing game on a weekend of amazing games.

I can see I'm probably in the minority but I would much rather UGA win out and the SEC get the shine than hear everyone fawn over Cinderella TCU all off-season. I hate Georgia and Bama and Florida but those are our weird cousins. They are still family like it or not. Them being good validates our schedule. I don't ever root against SEC teams unless they are playing us for that reason. In conference games are a wash but I want them to lose all games to us and win against all other conferences.

Yes you are the minority. I just moved back south after 20 years in Wisconsin. The fans of the BIG all root for BIG teams - except for OSU who they all hate. It’s different down here. Everyone likes to chat S-E-C but in reality our fans hate each other. Me included. I think I like LSU somewhat since we seem to have their number.

 

[FLVOL_79]

My argument with Big 10 fans all year was that Michigan and OSU had played weak competition. If they'd played better competition then one or maybe both wouldn't have made it in. By playing weak competition they weren't ready to play powerful opponents.

This. They have 3 good teams (OSU, MI, and Penn State). The rest of their schedule is like playing Vandy over and over.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

This. They have 3 good teams (OSU, MI, and Penn State). The rest of their schedule is like playing Vandy over and over.

The same can be said for the SEC.

 

[volfanhill]

The same can be said for the SEC.

In the final AP poll the sec will have 6 ranked teams.
The Big Ten will have 3.

No where near the same.

 

[TheFlash1971]

The same can be said for the SEC.

Exactly , couldn’t agree more.

 

[TheFlash1971]

This. They have 3 good teams (OSU, MI, and Penn State). The rest of their schedule is like playing Vandy over and over.

Dude are you serious take your blinders off. Ole Miss, Miss State, Kentucky, Vandy, SC, Auburn, and Florida all sucked sewer water.

 

[TheFlash1971]

The same can be said for the SEC.

Forgot that powerhouse in Texas A&M

 

[VFL-82-JP]

The same can be said for the SEC.

No, the same can not be said of the SEC.

These days, the B10 truly is 3 good teams and a bunch of Vandys. Even Wisconsin and Michigan State, which were once at least on par with, say, Ole Miss and Florida, have become very weak.

Here's kind of how the SEC has multiple tiers that the B10 is missing:

Top Tier : SEC 3 (Georgia, Bama, Tennessee) ... B10 2 (Ohio State, Michigan)
Second Tier: SEC 1 (LSU) ... B10 1 (Penn State)
Third Tier: SEC 4 (Ole Miss, South Carolina, Florida, Miss State) ... B10 0 (none)
Fourth Tier: SEC 3 (Kentucky, Arkansas, Auburn) ... B10 3 (Mich State, Wisconsin, Iowa ... and I feel like I'm being generous to two of them)
Bottom Tier: SEC 3 (Vandy, Mizzou, A&M) ... B10 8 (Maryland, Indiana, Rutgers, Purdue, Illinois, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern)

That entire bottom tier are Vandy-weak. A&M is only there temporarily, probably. We'll see if their utter program meltdown lasts longer than just this season. Unlike A&M, Nebraska seems there to stay. Purdue could bounce back, some day. Maybe not. Northwestern had a few good years, but those are over.

The B10 is just 3 good teams and a whole bunch of Vandys (spread is 2, 1, 0, 3, 8)). We at least have a healthy tier system (3, 1, 4, 3, 3 is a pretty nice spread).

So no, the same can't be said of the SEC.

 

[Delmar]

Greg McElroy is a funny guy . He says that if Georgia plays their A game they will win . So is TCU plays their A game we should have a tie game.
Dumbest statement in history of sports. If ga blocks , tackles, catches and throws to their best ability against a team that does the same score should be tied 0-0

No, I think he is saying that if Georgia plays their A game, it doesn’t matter what TCU does. Georgia’s “best” will beat TCU’s “best”. And he is correct. Heck, OSU played as well as they could and GA played probably their B- game and OSU still couldn’t get the W.

 

[Delmar]

Dude are you serious take your blinders off. Ole Miss, Miss State, Kentucky, Vandy, SC, Auburn, and Florida all sucked sewer water.

See post #19. That is all you need to know about the relative strength of the two.