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#54
#54
volinbham said:
I'll ask again - what do you mean by reduces turnout?
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Shortening the period for early voting, for example, tends to cut more into Democratic votes because studies show that by and large it is Democrats who benefit from that process.

One of my personal favorites just happened here in Florida. The Republican-controlled Legislature and the Republican governor, over protests from the Democratic members of the Legislature, passed a new law cutting down the time for early voting and specifically cut out one of the weekends before the Tuesday election period. This was designed to reduce Democratic early voting, particularly on the more convenient weekend.

That doesn't combat fraud. It does, however, reduce Democratic votes.
 
#57
#57
lawgator1 said:
Shortening the period for early voting, for example, tends to cut more into Democratic votes because studies show that by and large it is Democrats who benefit from that process.

One of my personal favorites just happened here in Florida. The Republican-controlled Legislature and the Republican governor, over protests from the Democratic members of the Legislature, passed a new law cutting down the time for early voting and specifically cut out one of the weekends before the Tuesday election period. This was designed to reduce Democratic early voting, particularly on the more convenient weekend.

That doesn't combat fraud. It does, however, reduce Democratic votes.
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I fail to see how shortening early voting gives an advantage to either side. It is not a partisan issue. Although, I think they should have a lengthy early voting block. I always vote early if I can. I am not a Democrat and I take full advantage of it.
 
#58
#58
lawgator1 said:
Shortening the period for early voting, for example, tends to cut more into Democratic votes because studies show that by and large it is Democrats who benefit from that process.

One of my personal favorites just happened here in Florida. The Republican-controlled Legislature and the Republican governor, over protests from the Democratic members of the Legislature, passed a new law cutting down the time for early voting and specifically cut out one of the weekends before the Tuesday election period. This was designed to reduce Democratic early voting, particularly on the more convenient weekend.

That doesn't combat fraud. It does, however, reduce Democratic votes.
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Okay... you're just making all Dems look lazy. This partisan crap on both sides is ridiculous.
 
#60
#60
lawgator1 said:
Shortening the period for early voting, for example, tends to cut more into Democratic votes because studies show that by and large it is Democrats who benefit from that process.

studies show...hmmmm

One of my personal favorites just happened here in Florida. The Republican-controlled Legislature and the Republican governor, over protests from the Democratic members of the Legislature, passed a new law cutting down the time for early voting and specifically cut out one of the weekends before the Tuesday election period. This was designed to reduce Democratic early voting, particularly on the more convenient weekend.

Was that the stated goal or do you just assume that was the motivation?

That doesn't combat fraud. It does, however, reduce Democratic votes.
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Using this logic, if Dems don't make early voting periods longer than they currently are then they are disenfranchising voters
 
#62
#62
volinbham said:
Using this logic, if Dems don't make early voting periods longer than they currently are then they are disenfranchising voters
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Not sure that it makes fiscal sense to have the early voting period more than the 10-14 days it is in many places (prior to the GOP-sponsored changes, that is).
 
#63
#63
lawgator1 said:
Not sure that it makes fiscal sense to have the early voting period more than the 10-14 days it is in many places (prior to the GOP-sponsored changes, that is).
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Good to see you agree with the Ohio GOP then. They are moving to shorten the early voting period to 17 days from the previous 35. Dems are accusing them of voter supression for this but the GOP is more generous than you.

:hi:
 
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#64
volinbham said:
Good to see you agree with the Ohio GOP then. They are moving to shorten the early voting period to 17 days from the previous 35. Dems are accusing them of voter supression for this but the GOP is more generous than you.

:hi:
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Misleading as you appear to be talking about one particular change. Details?
 

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#65
#65
lawgator1 said:
Misleading as you appear to be talking about one particular change. Details?
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I presume you can Google it. The law change signed by the gov. reduces the early voting period to 17 days prior to the election from the previous 35. There are other provisions as well but the timing change is being objected to. You indicated support for 17 days no?

Interestingly enough they (GOP) uses the same fiscal argument you did for claiming 17 days ought to be sufficient without being excessively costly.
 
#66
#66
Here ya go LG

In Ohio, Democrats in 'Make-or-Break' Fight Over Early Voting - ABC News

A new law, signed by Republican Gov. John Kasich in July, would shorten by two weeks the window for early voting by mail and in-person, eliminate early voting the three days before the election, and cease automatic mailing of absentee ballots to all registered voters in the state's largest counties, among other measures.
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Democrat complaint

"Reducing early voting to three weeks will have a major impact," he said. "Remember, the current system was put in place after 2004 when we had all the long lines. Some people waited over 10 hours to vote."
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Oooh, that guy would hate your 10-14 day limit - you vote suppressing racist!

The GOP agrees with LG

Republicans say the process is too long, too costly for budget-strapped counties and too prone to fraud and abuse. They also insist trimming the early voting window -- not eliminating it entirely -- does not upend the convenience of the current process.
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#68
#68
lawgator1 said:
Shortening the period for early voting, for example, tends to cut more into Democratic votes because studies show that by and large it is Democrats who benefit from that process.

One of my personal favorites just happened here in Florida. The Republican-controlled Legislature and the Republican governor, over protests from the Democratic members of the Legislature, passed a new law cutting down the time for early voting and specifically cut out one of the weekends before the Tuesday election period. This was designed to reduce Democratic early voting, particularly on the more convenient weekend.

That doesn't combat fraud. It does, however, reduce Democratic votes.
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Need new hope and new change if that is true.
 
#69
#69
Changing the early voting timetable would have no affect (effect? can never remember) on Democrats or Republicans.

However, if there was regulations instated like NEOCON has proposed (own land, certain age, etc) then yes, that would significantly reduce the number of Democratic voters.

And I think LG just wants a year-round voting timetable.
 
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