Name a Football player who died from COVID

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Can anyone name one? across the whole country? High School or College?

This really isnt to try to stir the pot - it is a genuine question because I do not know the answer. People are saying how the current regs are there to protect the kids in the university and I know there have been reports of kids on campus testing positive for COVID. The CDC says that there have been a total of 777 deaths related to COVID of people age 18-29 in the whole country since the pandemic began. Most of those also have co-morbidities but lets leave that aside. A simple question:

Out of this 777 total in the whole US of A, does anyone know if there has been a single one that played football? even if they weren't at school at the time.

Lets stretch it a bit more and ask out of the total 58 deaths of those ages 5-17, are there any High School football players among them?

I confess my pre-disposed bias is to sincerely doubt it, since if there was a single one, I suspect it would be front page news and used as evidence to shut down the season. But I don't know this for a fact so please my VN sleuths, see if there are any we may have missed.

If not, why exactly do we have all these protocols that are destroying the season if not a single football player in the country, either in school or out, has died from COVID?

What are the reasons being put forward to make these changes if not for the protection of the players? The coaches and staff? I mean, I could certainly see where someone like Chaney is at risk but these are not the reasons being put forward.

I really want to not be political about this - so this thread doesnt get shoved into the politics forum to die. So please keep this respectful, factual and related to football.
 
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I see you have learned well from our media. Your title implies that a player has died from Covid, so everyone will click in to see who that is. In reality your title is "Has any player died from Covid?"
 
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If a football player dies from Covid it will be plastered all over the news and they will be clamoring to stop all sports. Given the fact that we haven't heard this yet I would say its safe to say no
 
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Gandalf said:
Can anyone name one? across the whole country? High School or College?

This really isnt to try to stir the pot - it is a genuine question because I do not know the answer. People are saying how the current regs are there to protect the kids in the university and I know there have been reports of kids on campus testing positive for COVID. The CDC says that there have been a total of 777 deaths related to COVID of people age 18-29 in the whole country since the pandemic began. Most of those also have co-morbidities but lets leave that aside. A simple question:

Out of this 777 total in the whole US of A, does anyone know if there has been a single one that played football? even if they weren't at school at the time.

Lets stretch it a bit more and ask out of the total 58 deaths of those ages 5-17, are there any High School football players among them?

I confess my pre-disposed bias is to sincerely doubt it, since if there was a single one, I suspect it would be front page news and used as evidence to shut down the season. But I don't know this for a fact so please my VN sleuths, see if there are any we may have missed.

If not, why exactly do we have all these protocols that are destroying the season if not a single football player in the country, either in school or out, has died from COVID?

What are the reasons being put forward to make these changes if not for the protection of the players? The coaches and staff? I mean, I could certainly see where someone like Chaney is at risk but these are not the reasons being put forward.

I really want to not be political about this - so this thread doesnt get shoved into the politics forum to die. So please keep this respectful, factual and related to football.
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All I hear are crickets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can expand the question to MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, WNBA........................... Where's the beef fans? The Braves's Freddy Freeman was really sick with it in June and now he is probably going to be the MVP this year. The vulnerable have died from this, but the athlete demographics are fine and are being exploited by politics (hate to mention it), power hungry school administrators and those afraid of being sued. Most venues are open air and more if not all fans should be able to return to the games with temperature checks. Let's stop the nonsense and get back to enjoying life and let these kids-both athletes and all other students live their dreams.
 
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You have a better chance of finding Sparky here

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Gandalf said:
Can anyone name one? across the whole country? High School or College?

This really isnt to try to stir the pot - it is a genuine question because I do not know the answer. People are saying how the current regs are there to protect the kids in the university and I know there have been reports of kids on campus testing positive for COVID. The CDC says that there have been a total of 777 deaths related to COVID of people age 18-29 in the whole country since the pandemic began. Most of those also have co-morbidities but lets leave that aside. A simple question:

Out of this 777 total in the whole US of A, does anyone know if there has been a single one that played football? even if they weren't at school at the time.

Lets stretch it a bit more and ask out of the total 58 deaths of those ages 5-17, are there any High School football players among them?

I confess my pre-disposed bias is to sincerely doubt it, since if there was a single one, I suspect it would be front page news and used as evidence to shut down the season. But I don't know this for a fact so please my VN sleuths, see if there are any we may have missed.

If not, why exactly do we have all these protocols that are destroying the season if not a single football player in the country, either in school or out, has died from COVID?

What are the reasons being put forward to make these changes if not for the protection of the players? The coaches and staff? I mean, I could certainly see where someone like Chaney is at risk but these are not the reasons being put forward.

I really want to not be political about this - so this thread doesnt get shoved into the politics forum to die. So please keep this respectful, factual and related to football.
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I feel like you're trying to ask a serious question, so I'm going to give you a serious answer. If you just want someone to blindly agree with you, skip this post. No one (well no one intelligent) is claiming that healthy 22 year olds are going to start dropping from Covid. The protocols are in place to try to limit the spread from large events like sports because Covid-19 is very easy to transmit.

Let's use round numbers to create a rough example. UT plays South Carolina and 5 players from SC have the virus. They spread it to 25 guys on their team and 25 guys on UT. Those 50 guys now go back to campuses to visit their girlfriends who all catch it. Those 50 girlfriends take it back to their sorority or dorm and each infect 3 people. We're now at 250 in what could be a single day from just a single game. Obviously those numbers extrapolate out to get much larger very quickly and once you start seeing significantly higher numbers then you inevitably do run into people who are vulnerable to it. If you can limit spread, then you limit the risk to those who are vulnerable.

That makes just protecting the vulnerable people seem like the easiest solution, but we can't really create internment camps for old folks for however long it takes to create a vaccine. Staying home if you feel sick is a good rule to stick to as well, but I believe it has been proven (or hypothesized and not yet proven) that individuals can spread it prior to experiencing symptoms and while asymptomatic. So in a country of 300 million people if you can limit the spread to say 10 million and 1% of that group dies (it is probably lower, but don't make me do real math) then 100,000 people die. If you let it spread to half the population and 150 million people get it with the same mortality rate then you lose 1.5 million people. The protocols are in place so that we can continue to have some more normal things, like sports, while still not being completely reckless about how we spread the disease.
 
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Gandalf said:
Can anyone name one? across the whole country? High School or College?

This really isnt to try to stir the pot - it is a genuine question because I do not know the answer. People are saying how the current regs are there to protect the kids in the university and I know there have been reports of kids on campus testing positive for COVID. The CDC says that there have been a total of 777 deaths related to COVID of people age 18-29 in the whole country since the pandemic began. Most of those also have co-morbidities but lets leave that aside. A simple question:

Out of this 777 total in the whole US of A, does anyone know if there has been a single one that played football? even if they weren't at school at the time.

Lets stretch it a bit more and ask out of the total 58 deaths of those ages 5-17, are there any High School football players among them?

I confess my pre-disposed bias is to sincerely doubt it, since if there was a single one, I suspect it would be front page news and used as evidence to shut down the season. But I don't know this for a fact so please my VN sleuths, see if there are any we may have missed.

If not, why exactly do we have all these protocols that are destroying the season if not a single football player in the country, either in school or out, has died from COVID?

What are the reasons being put forward to make these changes if not for the protection of the players? The coaches and staff? I mean, I could certainly see where someone like Chaney is at risk but these are not the reasons being put forward.

I really want to not be political about this - so this thread doesnt get shoved into the politics forum to die. So please keep this respectful, factual and related to football.
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Personally, I don't believe you have any right to know the answers to these questions. PHI is not for public release, for one simple reason, it ain't none of your business.
 
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GAVol said:
Why are people so hung up on this? It's never been about kids dying. It's about preventing carriers.
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Ok, so do you think they are more prone to get the virus doing what they do now preparing for and playing games or joining in with the balance of the student body at most major universities? That is the bottom line to me.....
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Ok, so do you think they are more prone to get the virus doing what they do now preparing for and playing games or joining in with the balance of the student body at most major universities? That is the bottom line to me.....
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That's what remains to be seen. My guess is that their risk will end up being about the same as the general student population.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Ok, so do you think they are more prone to get the virus doing what they do now preparing for and playing games or joining in with the balance of the student body at most major universities? That is the bottom line to me.....
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Joining with the balance of students - because the school is providing extraordinary precautions and testing of the players to prevent them from contracting the virus and spreading it, that they aren't providing to the balance of the student body.
 
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Recent study came out from 37 universities. More than 50,000 cases of covid in the first few weeks of school getting back, but...









2 hospitalizations and no deaths. so...
 
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