NASCAR bans the confederate flag

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#253
Fun coupon VOL said:
What I have learned from NASCAR over the last 20 years.

Move to new tracks outside your real fans location and do terrible. Check

Bring in and allow existing morons to run your business into the ground. Check

Have a crackhead ceo. Check

Try to bring in new fans with gimmicks and going green initiative and fail. Check

Provide cookie cutter package to limit the cheating (made NASCAR great) across auto makers. check

Did I miss anything?
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Yeah, you missed a lot.
 
#254
#254
lawgator1 said:
I went to a couple in Daytona to see the spectacle. Not particularly a fan. Was interesting experience. Some fan seemed WAY into it. Charts. Headphones listening to race communications. Very much too themselves. Rest were just drunk.
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That's about it and another left turn.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
I was not aware that "Blacks" oppressed generations of people. I was not aware that "Blacks" wore African clothing to terrorize people. I know that Africans wear clothing that is traditional to the country in Africa that they are from. You know "Blacks" were stolen from their countries, and families were torn apart. You have every right to celebrate your southern heritage, whatever that may be.
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"Slavery has historically been widespread in Africa, and still continues today in some African countries. Systems of servitude and slavery were common in parts of Africa in ancient times, as they were in much of the rest of the ancient world. When the Arab slave trade and Atlantic slave trade began, many of the pre-existing local African slave systems began supplying captives for slave markets outside Africa."

" Davis estimates that 1 million to 1.25 million Europeans were enslaved in North Africa, from the beginning of the 16th century to the middle of the 18th, by slave traders from Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli alone (these numbers do not include the European people who were enslaved by Morocco and by other raiders and traders of the Mediterranean Sea coast)"

Not hard to research.
 
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k-town_king said:
Slave traders raided the shores and kidnapped many Africans.



Also you are not as educated as me on the matter. I have actually taken college courses on the subject.

Some were prisoners of war. Africans did not know what American slavery was. Slavery is Africa and the Middle East ( the Arab slave trade) was more like indentured servitude. Their slaves were still educated and their kids were not born slaves. It was a completely different system. Africans thought it would be the same over here as there. They were not aware of the extremely inhumane system of American slavery. So it was not the same thing. So yes Africans participated but were unaware of the treatment in the Americas. They were unaware of chattel slavery.

Slavery - Wikipedia.
systems of servitude and slavery were common in parts of Africa, as they were in much of the ancient world. In many African societies where slavery was prevalent, the enslaved people were not treated as chattel slaves and were given certain rights in a system similar to indentured servitude elsewhere in the world. The forms of slavery in Africa were closely related to kinship structures. In many African communities, where land could not be owned, enslavement of individuals was used as a means to increase the influence a person had and expand connections.[149] This made slaves a permanent part of a master's lineage and the children of slaves could become closely connected with the larger family ties.[150] Children of slaves born into families could be integrated into the master's kinship group and rise to prominent positions within society, even to the level of chief in some instances. However, stigma often remained attached and there could be strict separations between slave members of a kinship group and those related to the master.[149] Slavery was practiced in many different forms: debt slavery, enslavement of war captives, military slavery, and criminal slavery were all practiced in various parts of Africa.[151] Slavery for domestic and court purposes was widespread throughout Africa.
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Not likely. They were aware. It existed in Africa, as well as the other forms. Slavery is slavery though, is it not? It's either wrong or it's not? I see no format of slavery that is justifiable. No more than anyone here has yet to justify this type of lynching over that type of lynching.
 
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GVF said:
"Slavery has historically been widespread in Africa, and still continues today in some African countries. Systems of servitude and slavery were common in parts of Africa in ancient times, as they were in much of the rest of the ancient world. When the Arab slave trade and Atlantic slave trade began, many of the pre-existing local African slave systems began supplying captives for slave markets outside Africa."

" Davis estimates that 1 million to 1.25 million Europeans were enslaved in North Africa, from the beginning of the 16th century to the middle of the 18th, by slave traders from Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli alone (these numbers do not include the European people who were enslaved by Morocco and by other raiders and traders of the Mediterranean Sea coast)"

Not hard to research.
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So are the descendents of these enslaved people terrorized currently?
 
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GVF said:
Not likely. They were aware. It existed in Africa, as well as the other forms. Slavery is slavery though, is it not? It's either wrong or it's not? I see no format of slavery that is justifiable. No more than anyone here has yet to justify this type of lynching over that type of lynching.
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leave it to K-town to try and say that "some" slavery is better than others :rolleyes:
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
That's a great question. Why do people hang on to the flags of treasonous losers. People that were terrorized by people wielding the flag are always told to get over it, but the people that are wielding the flag to terrorize people are never told to move on.
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Who has that flag terrorized in this century? I mean, I get it. I understand that to some it's symbolic of a time that was not great in our country. But I think the idea that it currently "terrorizes" anyone is far-fetched. More accurate to say it stokes outrage, and people have the right to be offended. But again, when people say CK is disrespecting the Stars and Stripes, the side you occupy has no problem saying "get over it". So why is that only supposed to work one way? Seems to me like people just want their way and don't want to compromise or find a solution where every one can be happy. It's like watching little children bicker. I keep expecting someone to hold their breath until they get their way. Personally, I'm just over it. All these calls for "equality" and "fairness", yet no one wants to work together. Pointless.
 
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Weezer said:
Who has that flag terrorized in this century? I mean, I get it. I understand that to some it's symbolic of a time that was no........Pointless.
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Yep, besides the entertainment value, people need to be doing the best they can for themselves and theirs, screw everyone that ain't in your circle. More people did this, we wouldn't have time to talk and complain and whine and moan and waste time.

You'd see a lot more millionaires and happier people, too. But, to each their own.
 
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Mick said:
Don't move that bar, it was terrorizing for anyone to watch but it wasn't terrorism.
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It was horrendous to watch. Made me sick to my stomach. But don't act like we have conditions like you would find in the Middle East.
 
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