NCAA Finances by university

#5
#5
So Ohio State has $100 million more in revenue than we do?

Wow---astounding. Do these revenue numbers include individual/family contributions to the athletic department? I assume
so, and maybe that's where UT is lagging.
 
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I wish they would break down the numbers some.
So Ohio State has $100 million more in revenue than we do?

Wow---astounding. Do these revenue numbers include individual/family contributions to the athletic department? I assume
so, and maybe that's where UT is lagging.
if you click on the school name it breaks it down between Ticket Sales/Contributions/Rights & Licensing/Student Fees/School Funds/Other.

we are at least 20 million behind OSU on Tickets, Contributions, Rights & Licensing, and Other.
 
#10
#10
How does UK have a higher AD revenue than Tennessee?

1. There isn't consistent accounting between schools.

2. 15 years of football incompetence prior to 2022 and guys like Hammy, Hart, Currie, and especially Fulmer running the AD. That will take some time to recover from and mend those wounds.
 
#12
#12
Private schools don’t have to give out the info like public schools. Also, in Vanderbilt’s case they don’t have an athletic department (I know this opens up all kinds of jokes).
 
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#13
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Our revenue in that report doesn’t reflect our success for the 2022-2023 school year, I bet we’ll be much higher this time next year.
 
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So Tennessee is doing more with less. Wise use of the funds available.
More like TN is spending more with less since our net income is in the red. Only 3 SEC schools have a negative profit margin. (UT, USCjr, and Ole Miss)

High level SEC comparison:
-8th in revenue
-6th in expense
-10th in profit margin (negative amount)

Interesting figures for UT:
-Rights/Licensing are the main driver of our revenue, up 102% over the last 10 years
-Contributions up 39% and outpaced ticket sales this year
-Negative profit 3 of the last 4 years
-Coaching/Staff up 61%, or 40% of the expenses
 
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More like TN is spending more with less since our net income is in the red. Only 3 SEC schools have a negative profit margin. (UT, USCjr, and Ole Miss)

High level SEC comparison:
-8th in revenue
-6th in expense
-10th in profit margin (negative amount)

Interesting figures for UT:
-Rights/Licensing are the main driver of our revenue, up 102% over the last 10 years
-Contributions up 39% and outpaced ticket sales this year
-Negative profit 3 of the last 4 years
-Coaching/Staff up 61%, or 40% of the expenses
Profit margin was only slightly negative in percentage terms. Expense budgets are set based on expected revenue, so over a larger data set (more years) there shouldn’t be a significant profit or loss percentage wise. This is also the case if you look at other schools.
So doing what we have done (NY6 bowl win, sweet 16 in men’s and women’s basketball, CWS in softball and baseball) with less revenue than 17 other schools is not too shabby
 
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Our revenue in that report doesn’t reflect our success for the 2022-2023 school year, I bet we’ll be much higher this time next year.
Yes, it was Heupel's first year and football accounts for 65%+ of revenue.
 
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So Ohio State has $100 million more in revenue than we do?

Wow---astounding. Do these revenue numbers include individual/family contributions to the athletic department? I assume
so, and maybe that's where UT is lagging.

Came here hoping to find a thread about this so we could get @DeerPark12 expertise.

I am not remotely clear how this is calculated, and thus can't honestly complain, though it strikes me as garbage. How can Virginia, Michigan State, Clemson, FSU and Indiana possibly have greater revenue than Tennessee? I'm incredulous about Kentucky, though their basketball program might just be that stout, but the others are absurd. I get that the Big Ten has a greater payout than the SEC, but where is the ACC money coming from to bump them past the Vols when they have tiny facilities and Neyland and TBA (both Top 5 in capacity) had huge crowds every game?
 
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Came here hoping to find a thread about this so we could get @DeerPark12 expertise.

I am not remotely clear how this is calculated, and thus can't honestly complain, though it strikes me as garbage. How can Virginia, Michigan State, Clemson, FSU and Indiana possibly have greater revenue than Tennessee? I'm incredulous about Kentucky, though their basketball program might just be that stout, but the others are absurd. I get that the Big Ten has a greater payout than the SEC, but where is the ACC money coming from to bump them past the Vols when they have tiny facilities and Neyland and TBA (both Top 5 in capacity) had huge crowds every game?

You will never get a true apples-to-apples comparison because the on-campus finances from school to school vary dramatically as far as what is athletics revenue and what isn’t.

I will use Ohio State as an example here, since they are the top school on this list. Ohio State began using the athletics logo as its university logo. So the school, medical center, and a whole bunch of other departments end up paying the athletics department a licensing fee to use the logo. When Tennessee adopted the power T as the Knoxville campus logo, there was no such agreement, it just became the one standard mark.

Annual giving is another area where things are accounted for differently at different schools. Ohio State still allows donors to give to academic programs but receive athletic credit for it. So their donations end up being $48 million more than Tennessee when not all of that is necessarily athletics. Ohio State also controls its on-campus arena and revenue from concerts and other events go to the athletic department, rather than the university. The athletic department there does assume some risk and they are responsible for debt service, maintenance and upkeep, insurance, etc. But in years like this, it paid off for them. Here, the university owns and operates Thompson Boling, so revenue from major events does not go to the athletics department.

Parking is another huge area. At most schools, athletics controls the parking and revenue for athletic events. At UT, they do not. The athletics department actually rents out the lots from parking services and much of the parking fee that you pay goes to parking services, rather than athletics. Every penny of those $10 a car single-game parking fees in the garages for basketball games, concerts, all of that goes to parking services and not athletics.

But ultimately, this disparity in donations is what Danny White has spent the last two years talking about. Tennessee was way behind in donations because they still allowed so many grandfathered seats to generate zero revenue. We had people making one donation and getting tickets to football, men’s and women’s basketball and baseball off of it, where our peer schools are getting a donation for each, then tickets on top of it. When Danny changed it, people complained, but they had to close the gap. These numbers reflect the last year before the donation system fully changed.
 
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You will never get a true apples-to-apples comparison because the on-campus finances from school to school vary dramatically as far as what is athletics revenue and what isn’t.

I will use Ohio State as an example here, since they are the top school on this list. Ohio State began using the athletics logo as its university logo. So the school, medical center, and a whole bunch of other departments end up paying the athletics department a licensing fee to use the logo. When Tennessee adopted the power T as the Knoxville campus logo, there was no such agreement, it just became the one standard mark.

Annual giving is another area where things are accounted for differently at different schools. Ohio State still allows donors to give to academic programs but receive athletic credit for it. So their donations end up being $48 million more than Tennessee when not all of that is necessarily athletics. Ohio State also controls its on-campus arena and revenue from concerts and other events go to the athletic department, rather than the university. The athletic department there does assume some risk and they are responsible for debt service, maintenance and upkeep, insurance, etc. But in years like this, it paid off for them. Here, the university owns and operates Thompson Boling, so revenue from major events does not go to the athletics department.

Parking is another huge area. At most schools, athletics controls the parking and revenue for athletic events. At UT, they do not. The athletics department actually rents out the lots from parking services and much of the parking fee that you pay goes to parking services, rather than athletics. Every penny of those $10 a car single-game parking fees in the garages for basketball games, concerts, all of that goes to parking services and not athletics.

But ultimately, this disparity in donations is what Danny White has spent the last two years talking about. Tennessee was way behind in donations because they still allowed so many grandfathered seats to generate zero revenue. We had people making one donation and getting tickets to football, men’s and women’s basketball and baseball off of it, where our peer schools are getting a donation for each, then tickets on top of it. When Danny changed it, people complained, but they had to close the gap. These numbers reflect the last year before the donation system fully changed.

That seriously was super interesting and insightful. Thank ya bro, that actually made a lot of sense.
 

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