NCAA Finances by university

#26
#26
BigOrangeMojo said:
1. There isn't consistent accounting between schools.

2. 15 years of football incompetence prior to 2022 and guys like Hammy, Hart, Currie, and especially Fulmer running the AD. That will take some time to recover from and mend those wounds.
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when fulmer was coach we had the 2nd highest revenue in the sec..how soon we forget.
 
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#27
BigOrangeMojo said:
1. There isn't consistent accounting between schools.

2. 15 years of football incompetence prior to 2022 and guys like Hammy, Hart, Currie, and especially Fulmer running the AD. That will take some time to recover from and mend those wounds.
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Annual giving to the Tennessee Fund went up by almost 35% during Fulmer's tenure and Tennessee had the best annual giving year of any school in the SEC not named Alabama in the 2020 pandemic year, so let's slow the roll on blaming Fulmer for any financial shortfalls compared to rivals.

You can blame Hamilton and Hart for breaking relationships and coaching hire incompetence and Currie increased (necessary, IMO) spending significantly without improved fundraising, but the people Fulmer had in place set up Danny White's crew to have a chance.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Annual giving to the Tennessee Fund went up by almost 35% during Fulmer's tenure and Tennessee had the best annual giving year of any school in the SEC not named Alabama in the 2020 pandemic year, so let's slow the roll on blaming Fulmer for any financial shortfalls compared to rivals.

You can blame Hamilton and Hart for breaking relationships and coaching hire incompetence and Currie increased (necessary, IMO) spending significantly without improved fundraising, but the people Fulmer had in place set up Danny White's crew to have a chance.
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Tennessee was 9th in 2017 and 18th now...

Yes, Fulmer gets blame for that since the 9 teams that passed us had to deal with COVID too.

Fulmer hired Pruitt which was main reason for falling behind peers
 
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DeerPark12 said:
You will never get a true apples-to-apples comparison because the on-campus finances from school to school vary dramatically as far as what is athletics revenue and what isn’t.

I will use Ohio State as an example here, since they are the top school on this list. Ohio State began using the athletics logo as its university logo. So the school, medical center, and a whole bunch of other departments end up paying the athletics department a licensing fee to use the logo. When Tennessee adopted the power T as the Knoxville campus logo, there was no such agreement, it just became the one standard mark.

Annual giving is another area where things are accounted for differently at different schools. Ohio State still allows donors to give to academic programs but receive athletic credit for it. So their donations end up being $48 million more than Tennessee when not all of that is necessarily athletics. Ohio State also controls its on-campus arena and revenue from concerts and other events go to the athletic department, rather than the university. The athletic department there does assume some risk and they are responsible for debt service, maintenance and upkeep, insurance, etc. But in years like this, it paid off for them. Here, the university owns and operates Thompson Boling, so revenue from major events does not go to the athletics department.

Parking is another huge area. At most schools, athletics controls the parking and revenue for athletic events. At UT, they do not. The athletics department actually rents out the lots from parking services and much of the parking fee that you pay goes to parking services, rather than athletics. Every penny of those $10 a car single-game parking fees in the garages for basketball games, concerts, all of that goes to parking services and not athletics.

But ultimately, this disparity in donations is what Danny White has spent the last two years talking about. Tennessee was way behind in donations because they still allowed so many grandfathered seats to generate zero revenue. We had people making one donation and getting tickets to football, men’s and women’s basketball and baseball off of it, where our peer schools are getting a donation for each, then tickets on top of it. When Danny changed it, people complained, but they had to close the gap. These numbers reflect the last year before the donation system fully changed.
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Texas is going to raise the financial bar significantly when they join the SEC next season as will Oklahoma.

Universities such as Mississippi and Mississippi State and Missouri and Vanderbilt will have a hard time catching up to Oklahoma, Texas and Florida and Texas A&M.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Tennessee was 9th in 2017 and 18th now...

Yes, Fulmer gets blame for that since the 9 teams that passed us had to deal with COVID too.

Fulmer hired Pruitt which was main reason for falling behind peers
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Tennessee also had a significant gain in revenue and annual giving over that period. They had several year-over-year record gains, as a matter of fact. Other schools did better. The Big Ten's new TV contract was a part of that as well.

Pruitt was a disaster, but Fulmer's tenure was financially successful for UT by every metric.
 
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