NCAA needs a rules change?

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rockytopinalabam

rockytopinalabam

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Every one remembers the fumble last year against Alabama that cost us the game. I think that's a stupid rule. Not only did they get the ball but they advanced the ball 30 yards up the field. I don't think you should get the ball without recovering it, but if you do give to the other team the ball give it to them on the one yard line.
 
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If we cant hold onto the ball crossing the goal, then we don't deserve to get the ball back.
 
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(rockytopinalabam @ May 5 said:
Every one remembers the fumble last year against Alabama that cost us the game. I think that's a stupid rule. Not only did they get the ball but they advanced the ball 30 yards up the field. I don't think you should get the ball without recovering it, but if you do give to the other team the ball give it to them on the one yard line.
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They did recover it. It went out of the endzone.
 
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The one yard line would be ridiculous. I could dig the 20, if they wanted to give it a reasonable distance. I don't really get the rule either, but it is what it is. Don't fumble the damn ball in the first place.
 
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We had this discussion after the game last year.

The rule goes back to the origins of the game. The field is divided into zones. The rules are different in different zones. If the team with the ball fails to control the ball in the zones different rules apply. With the advent of the forward pass, the rules were modified. For example if you throw an incomplete into the endzone you are attacking, it is considered an incomplete -- no penalty. However if you fail to control the ball in the endzone you are attacking, it is a turnover even if the other team doesn't gain control of the ball. The penalty for the same situation in the endzone you are defending is much more severe. Lose control of the ball of the ball in this endzone and the other team not only gets the ball but is also awarded points. They likely get the ball in a better place than the 20 also!
 
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The rule is what is, and it had no effect on the outcome of the game. The fact that we lost the ball in the first place cost us that game.
 
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That's true. When USC fumbled against ND it goes out of bounds on the one, they win the game on the next play, the only difference was they were a little lucky that it did not go out of bounds after it crossed the goal line.
 
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Exactly....I don't like that every kick return gets flags thrown for illegal blocks in the back and below the waist, but that's the rule.
 
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I think kickoffs ought to be the one time where they just abandon rules, except for down by contact. Just make it one big, no-holds barred game of sharks and minnows.
 
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(milohimself @ May 7 said:
I think kickoffs ought to be the one time where they just abandon rules, except for down by contact. Just make it one big, no-holds barred game of sharks and minnows.
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thats a good idea if you like paralysis
 
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They don't differentiate between it going out of bounds through the "back of the endzone" or the "sideline of the endzone." In my opinion, they should, and THAT is how the rule should change. If you fumble and it goes out the SIDE of the endzone you should retain possesion at either 1) The original line of scrimmage or 2) The 20.

In this case, that rule change wouldn't affect the play... but can you imagine, if the USC fumble goes out of bounds one yard further, in the endzone, ND gets the ball at the 20. Instead, the bounce went USC's way, and it went out at the one.

So to sum up, it should be 1) Fumble out of the BACK of the endzone, the other team gets the ball at the 20. 2) Fumble out of the SIDE of the endzone, the ball goes back to the original LOS for that play. ??? What do you think?
 
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Rules changes like that tend to not go well. I'll never forget about 10-15 years ago when they decided that there were too many touchbacks on kickoffs, so they started giving the return team the ball on the 30 if a kickoff sailed out of the endzone. The problem was that they didn't specify what "through the endzone" meant, so balls that curled around the pylon and went out the side of the endzone were treated the same as balls flying over the end line. I think the rule lasted 1, maybe 2 years max.
 
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where would they put the ball then if it went out of the end zone? I couldnt be a touch down or people would just run and act like they fumbled, it couldnt be from where he was hit, so what would they do? I think the way they have it now is best
 
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(rockytopinalabam @ May 5 said:
Every one remembers the fumble last year against Alabama that cost us the game. I think that's a stupid rule. Not only did they get the ball but they advanced the ball 30 yards up the field. I don't think you should get the ball without recovering it, but if you do give to the other team the ball give it to them on the one yard line.
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I agree..
 
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bottom line is it's a live ball. where it goes out of bounds, the same rules apply. On a kickoff or punt, if it goes out of the end zone it's a touch back, and it's a live ball....opposing team gets it on the 20. if the ball goes of bounds before it gets in the endzone, possesion remains where the ball went of bounds, just like on punt returns.

i guess basically what volinbham said...same difference.

 
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