Never Start a Freshman QB Too Early

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TN1 said:
T . . .One should have played in the South Alabama game in preparation for back up in the tough October schedule should our starter get hurt. . . .
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So knowing that Worley is currently the best option and is going to play barring injury, you would give away a full year of eligibility of one of the freshmen just for insurance?

That's a poor decision, IMO.

I am sure that one of them is being prepped as thoroughly as possible to play in the event Worley gets banged up. Until then, if he is the best option, leave him on the field.
 
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If our freshman QBs have such fragile egos that they can't handle a rough couple of games while learning and developing in real game situations then they don't need to be here at all. Jmo
 
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fade route said:
If our freshman QBs have such fragile egos that they can't handle a rough couple of games while learning and developing in real game situations thethey don't need to be here at all. Jmo
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I don't think ego's are what Coach Jones is worried about. More than likely it is their knees, and shoulders.
 
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I think some of ya'll are spoiled after Bray. Almost no one has the arm strength of Tyler Bray; his physical attributes are amazing. Worley, when throwing with his feet set correctly, can throw the ball quite well. That slant route to Croom against Florida and the touchdown throw against Oregon should be an indication of what Worley is capable of. Why he plays so up and down I don't know, but to say he doesn't have the physical tools isn't necessarily correct in my opinion.
 
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therickbol said:
This website churns out ridiculous statements at an alarming rate. And this is one of the most ridiculous. Our fanbase makes me more and more embarrassed every day.
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In the fans defense, they are just dazed and confused
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Ore qb and johnny football weren't ready to jump in as freshmen and redshirted, yet we think ours should be able to jump in and lead a program when every position is trying to learn? With a new system, new checks, new reads, and freshmen wr's all over the place.
What true freshmen qb's for bama, ga, Fla, Lsu, etc have started and made an impact over the last decade?
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Hmm Johnny football was backing up Ryan Tanniehill

Who is about to play Monday night football now

And Oregon had a good qb also.

Point is Worley should be benched
 
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As some people have pointed out, some kids are more ready than others to play at the college level. Some would thrive on adversity, others may have their confidence shattered and never recover. Very player is different and guess whose job it is to determine what is best for the team and the player? Posters on volnation! No, no, no, wait... I misspoke, it's the coaches. You know, the ones that spend time with these kids daily. Just an opinion.
 
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fade route said:
If our freshman QBs have such fragile egos that they can't handle a rough couple of games while learning and developing in real game situations then they don't need to be here at all. Jmo
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This is the point I was trying to make. Not that any reasonable person would expect one of the freshman to come in and be an all SEC performer but get valuable experience that will pay off next year. Butch is building for the future and it doesn't appear that Worley is the future. Saving the frosh from tough competition isn't a valid excuse, especially against the likes of south Alabama. Obviously CBJ has a plan and reasons and that's awesome and really all that matters. Saving their egos is not the answer.
 
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TN1 said:
Totally disagree. What's our plan if Worley goes down in the Georgia game? We have two good freshman QBs on the bench. One should have played in the South Alabama game in preparation for back up in the tough October schedule should our starter get hurt. We're taking a big risk. I only hope Worley learned a few things from South Alabama's Metheny - what a gutsy performance from the Jaguars signal caller.
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I think Butch figured if he took Worley out, we might not win. A good move in my opinion. I think if a freshman had come in, it would have resembled Peterman's performance. If Worley goes out against Georgia, then a freshman qb will play because they HAVE to. Saturday they did not have to. We have freshmen and walkons running all over the field. If the freshmen qbs were ready, they would play. If Worley goes down, and they are the only choice, then they will play. I also think he will play one if a game clearly becomes a lost cause. I think he would have played one Saturday if we had maintained the large lead into the fourth quarter.
 
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DrDave said:
You can destroy a young QB by playing him before he's ready. We will take the lumps this year and hope that we don't see Worley get knocked out of a game. And that Peterman get back in three weeks.

But we likely not going to see a freshman QB this year.

They are not ready.
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Tyler bray said hi, when he was breaking all of mannings freshman records... now I know bray was a head case, but he was a pretty decent qb for us.. so this stuff with people saying you cant start a freshman, or they're not ready is a bunch of bull, but then again, none of us are at practice either. .
 
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ShowSomePride said:
I think some of ya'll are spoiled after Bray. Almost no one has the arm strength of Tyler Bray; his physical attributes are amazing. Worley, when throwing with his feet set correctly, can throw the ball quite well. That slant route to Croom against Florida and the touchdown throw against Oregon should be an indication of what Worley is capable of. Why he plays so up and down I don't know, but to say he doesn't have the physical tools isn't necessarily correct in my opinion.
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Bray didn't start early either, and he was throwing to Stocker, Moore and Jones, not the lawfirm of Smith, Carter and Downs
 
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fade route said:
Bray was about 190 when he started, with alot less muscle and he did ok. 190 is not that light for a qb.
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Ferguson is probably between 175-180. Very thin for his height. I guarantee you that injury concerns are part of the reason they are reluctant to throw either of the freshman in there. Not the only reason by any means. But I am saying it is part of the reason.
 
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fade route said:
If our freshman QBs have such fragile egos that they can't handle a rough couple of games while learning and developing in real game situations then they don't need to be here at all. Jmo
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Archie Manning would beg to differ. He once said that one of the things that he appreciated most about coach Cutcliffe was the pace at which he brought Peyton along as a freshman. Archie acknowledged the fact that a devastating performance can have dire consequences for the confidence of a young and inexperienced quarterback.

If you need proof, think back to the psychological reclamation project Cutcliffe had to perform on Eric Ainge after the 2005 season or the challenge the current staff may face in restoring Peterman's confidence after the Florida game.
 
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therickbol said:
Ferguson is probably between 175-180. Very thin for his height. I guarantee you that injury concerns are part of the reason they are reluctant to throw either of the freshman in there. Not the only reason by any means. But I am saying it is part of the reason.
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Riley was even lighter than that when he first arrived. According to his father, "when he got there on June 12th or 13th he was 173 and he gained 20 pounds by mid-August. The first game he had gained 20 pounds, but they’re feeding him about 5500 calories a day. That’ll do it.”

(On Riley’s weight)

“I think him and Dobbs are about the same weight. He really gained a lot of weight. Every time I talk to him he says he’s got two shakes in his hand with 3 scoops of Muscle Milk in each one of them. I guess they’re force-feeding him right now" (Tennessee Sports Radio - Tennessee's Sports Stations, The Station For Volnation, Vols Football, Basketball, and more. - Tennessee Sports Radio).
 
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whobethis16 said:
Which is honestly a bush league move. If a freshman is good enough to start against Mizzou, Auburn, Vandy, and Kentucky, he's good enough to start against UGA, Bama, and USC. If not, then Worley earns/earned the right to start against the easier competition.
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??? Don't quite follow. If a QB is good enough to start a JV game he is good enough to start varsity is how I read this. Did I miss the context of your statement?
 
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aredfox28 said:
Tyler bray said hi, when he was breaking all of mannings freshman records... now I know bray was a head case, but he was a pretty decent qb for us.. so this stuff with people saying you cant start a freshman, or they're not ready is a bunch of bull, but then again, none of us are at practice either. .
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Well which is it? Is it a bunch of bull or is it valid because they're the ones at practice and we're not?
 
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